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The Discovery of Heaven
The Discovery of Heaven, Harry Mulisch's magnum opus, is a rich mosaic of twentieth-century trauma in which many themes— friendship, loyalty, family, art, technology, religion, fate, good, and evil— suffuse a suspenseful and resplendent narrative. The story begins with the meeting of Onno and Max, two complicated individuals whom fate has mysteriously and magically brought...more
Paperback, 730 pages
Published
November 1st 1997
by Penguin Books Ltd
(first published 1992)
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An ambitious book. Intending to cover EVERYTHING. So the main characters are all polymaths, well-read but otherwise shallow, symbols really. And they're male too. Oh, there are females characters, but they conceive and then get felled by a lightning-struck tree; or they sneak in a younger man's bedroom and then leave in the morning without speaking. Although, in gender-fairness, a male can be sitting, about to uncover the secret to the universe, and a meteorite comes out of the sky and pulverize...more
What a magnificent book! Despite the hubris of Mulisch in incorporating large swatches of his autobiography into the fabric of this literary counterpane, he uses those elements well to contribute to the coherent pattern of the work. This is a novel of ideas, which is also an engaging narrative filled with humor. For those readers willing to work their way through the 730 pages, the reward will be worth the time spent, and the time spent will be the reward. The book provides devastating criticism...more
No mere summary could cover the depths to be found within this novel. Trying to summarize it would not give justice to it's brilliance and complexity. It is not a book to be taken lightly as it requires time to be set aside for it. You will need to want to be challenged as well as entertained before beginning this book. At only 730 pages it still took me three weeks and some odd days to read. Not because it was slow and boring, but because it often distracted me enough to put the book down in or...more
Jun 22, 2007
Lily
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3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
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I'll be the first to admit that I didn't understand a lot of the metaphysical aspects of this book. It was recommended to me by a dutch dude that was staying at the same campground in Italy as I was. He said it was the most famous book in Holland. From what I remember, it starts with the relationship between two friends as they vie for the same woman. The woman gets pregnant by one man, and the other raises the child as his own. The undercurrent of this story is the fact that the family of one o...more
Jaren geleden las ik dit boek al, en toen vond ik het best goed en onderhoudend. Nu heb ik het herlezen, en verdorie, nu vind ik het gewoon GEWELDIG en misschien wel Mulisch' allerbeste. Nu begrijp ik pas waarom veel mensen dit Mulisch' magnum opus vinden. Het boek is nu voor mij veel rijker dan de eerste keer, misschien omdat ik inmiddels een hele kilo Mulisch gelezen heb en hem dus beter snap. Ik heb die eerste keer echt allerlei dingen niet meegekregen die ik nu wel meekreeg. Daarnaast had ik...more
Originally published on my blog here in February 2003.
This novel charts the lives of two close friends, liberals in sixties Holland, and their love affairs with a Concertgebouw cellist. One of them, Onno Quist, comes from a patriarchal family eminent in conservative politics, while Max Delius' father was a war criminal executed for betraying his Jewish wife and in-laws, leading to their deaths at Auschwitz. This much background immediately demonstrates that politics and the legacy of the war wil...more
This novel charts the lives of two close friends, liberals in sixties Holland, and their love affairs with a Concertgebouw cellist. One of them, Onno Quist, comes from a patriarchal family eminent in conservative politics, while Max Delius' father was a war criminal executed for betraying his Jewish wife and in-laws, leading to their deaths at Auschwitz. This much background immediately demonstrates that politics and the legacy of the war wil...more
In't kort: Nederland, begin 60s. Onno, een Amsterdammer van hoge komaf en talengenie, maakt kennis met Max, uit Leiden, sterrenkundige en opgevoed door pleegouders. Beiden worden op korte tijd onafscheidelijk en verzeilen in allerlei avonturen. Onderweg maken ze kennis met beroepsmuzikante Ada, die eerst het lief wordt van Max, maar eens dat uitraakt, in zee gaat met Onno. Op een congres in Cuba, waar zij moet spelen, en Max en Onno zich voordoen als de 'Nederlandse delegatie', raakt Ada zwanger...more
A poll of Dutch readers taken in 2007 resulted in this being selected as "the greatest Dutch-language novel ever." I can see why. It is a brilliant and engaging work. The frame is,to say the least, cosmic in scope. A group of divine beings decide to send a new "spark" into mortality on a special mission. The problem, the divines feel, is that the emergence of the scientific method and the resulting explosion in human knowledge actually threatens their superiority. Moreover, there is so much abou...more
This is the english version of my review:
Onno, an amateur philologist obsessed by the Phaistos Disk, comes from one of the Netherland's leading political families. Max, a womanising radio astronomer, is the son of a collaborator who was executed after the Second World War. An unlikely pair brought together by chance — or angelic intervention — they immediately strike up a firm friendship. When Max meets Ada, a cellist, she is not just one of his usual girlfriends, but it is Onno who ends up marr...more
Onno, an amateur philologist obsessed by the Phaistos Disk, comes from one of the Netherland's leading political families. Max, a womanising radio astronomer, is the son of a collaborator who was executed after the Second World War. An unlikely pair brought together by chance — or angelic intervention — they immediately strike up a firm friendship. When Max meets Ada, a cellist, she is not just one of his usual girlfriends, but it is Onno who ends up marr...more
Angespornt durch den Film mit Stephen Fry als Onno kaufte ich mir dieses Buch und meine Erwartungen wurden noch übertroffen. Im Rückblick ist der Film eine lahme Geschichte, verglichen mit der Fülle des Buches.
Sicherlich habe ich längst nicht alle Ebenen des Buches ergründen können, erst jetzt habe ich z.B. erfahren, dass Mulisch wohl seine Autobiographie darin verarbeitet hat. Ich werde es also noch mehrmals lesen müssen, was mir eine Freude sein wird.
Die Freundschaft zwischen Onno und Max, ih...more
Sicherlich habe ich längst nicht alle Ebenen des Buches ergründen können, erst jetzt habe ich z.B. erfahren, dass Mulisch wohl seine Autobiographie darin verarbeitet hat. Ich werde es also noch mehrmals lesen müssen, was mir eine Freude sein wird.
Die Freundschaft zwischen Onno und Max, ih...more
May 12, 2008
Bartholomew
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4 of 5 stars
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Recommends it for:
Pat Byrnes
Wonderfully philosophical. Probing and intelligent, this novel is difficult to be categorised to a specific genre... none seem to be able to adequately contain this novel. We travel from Amsterdam to Cuba, from the 60s to the 90s and from Atheism to Roman Catholicism to Judaism, via Palladio! It's a massive read and kept me busy for a long time - not helped by the fact that life got in the way... Read this book and prepare to live a little.
Es ist nicht einfach, über 870 Seiten tatsächlich die Spannung aufrecht zu erhalten und die Leser/innen mitzureissen. Mit "Die Entdeckung des Himmels schafft Harry Mulisch genau das, indem er auf faszinierende Art und Weise die Geschichte von Quinten Quist und seinem (himmlischen) Auftrag erzählt. Woraus dieser eigentlich besteht, wird erst zum Ende des Buches aufgelöst, durch Einschübe aus einer anderen Welt (eben der himmlischen) aber immer wieder in den Vordergrund gestellt. Erzähler ist derj...more
“Was everything possible and could anything be done, since it would one day irrevocably be cast aside? Even in heaven eternal bliss would be possible only by the grace of a criminal loss of memory. Should the blessed not be punished with hell for this? Everything had been wrecked for all eternity — not only here, but by thousands of earlier and later occasions, which no one remembered. Heaven was impossible; only hell might perhaps exist.”
“When I see your pitiful appearance, I have to think back...more
“When I see your pitiful appearance, I have to think back...more
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Het boek stond jarenlang in mijn kast en pas met de dood van Mulisch vond ik het tijd om het dan ook eens te lezen. Heb er zeker van genoten maar ben nu wel blij dat die turf van meer dan 900 blz. uit is en ik weer eens iets anders kan lezen. Sommige passages in het boek vond ik absoluut veel te lang en te encyclopedisch - ik had soms het gevoel dat de auteur op een schoolmeesterachtige wijze zijn kennis etalleerde, in de zin van ' zie eens wat ik allemaal weet'...Ik kreeg ook vaak de indruk dat...more
First I fell in love with the film adaptation, featuring Stephen Fry. Then, I fell in love with the novel, which is epic (in both size and narrative) compared to the film.
I took this novel with me during my tour of Italy (not many books can see you through the journey's between 10 different towns & cities), grateful that I could identify with some of the locations mentioned in the novel. Although I saw the movie first, therefore literally looking out for visible landmarks, it did not stop m...more
I took this novel with me during my tour of Italy (not many books can see you through the journey's between 10 different towns & cities), grateful that I could identify with some of the locations mentioned in the novel. Although I saw the movie first, therefore literally looking out for visible landmarks, it did not stop m...more
Absolute great! Did not know that there was dutch literature like this. Too bad Harry Mulish died a few years ago. I enjoyed the book so much that I'm almost sad I finished it. For me it is a masterpiece because between the lines you can read that the writer should be very intelligent and knows a lot. In spite of this it isn't a difficult book. Conversation between the main characters were philosophical and did let me think of the meaning of it. All events written in the book had a purpose and w...more
"Called the greatest writer in Dutch literature, Mulisch has produced an opus magnum featuring historical, cultural, social, political and religious themes of the latter half of the 20th century. His two “heroes,” Max and Onno, become friends upon a chance meeting and continue to share their lives in ways even they do not suspect. Ada, the woman both love, has a child who is fathered by Max, but is considered Onno’s son and will fulfill the destiny planned for him by two celestial beings (i.e. a...more
Dit boek stond destijds, toen ik nog op de middelbare school zat, op de boekenlijst. Dit boek lezen leverde je 5 punten op. De meeste andere boeken 1, of 2 punten. Ik besloot om die ene student te zijn die het boek zou gaan lezen. Ik was toen...18? De leraar Nederlands was onder de indruk dat het boek op mijn lijstje stond, maar betwijfelde of ik het boek ook daadwerkelijk van begin tot eind had gelezen.
Dat had ik dus wel. Er was niet alles in het boek wat ik begreep, maar juist dat maakte dat i...more
Dat had ik dus wel. Er was niet alles in het boek wat ik begreep, maar juist dat maakte dat i...more
This is a great book...in every way!
It's a great big story that fills 730 pages...let's start with that. Whew! Definitely summer reading for me, because that's when I have a little extra time.
But within those 730 pages is a great story as well. There are intriguing characters (I love Onno) and conversations between them. And just about all the big subjects are covered: string theory, the Big Bang, architecture (not, oooh, look at those pretty columns, but ARCHITECTURE), politics, art, music, rel...more
It's a great big story that fills 730 pages...let's start with that. Whew! Definitely summer reading for me, because that's when I have a little extra time.
But within those 730 pages is a great story as well. There are intriguing characters (I love Onno) and conversations between them. And just about all the big subjects are covered: string theory, the Big Bang, architecture (not, oooh, look at those pretty columns, but ARCHITECTURE), politics, art, music, rel...more
I thought, "Why not read something from a Dutch author while I'm living in The Netherlands now". And this book was a nice surprise. Being a big literary work that it is, it turned out to be funny -in a dry ironic sort of way, but funny nonetheless.
I only have fond memory of this book, as it managed to bring me closer to a colleague which now have become a dear friend of mine (how "Norwegian Wood", friendship that was started by a book).
My only regret was that I got the copy of the old edition,...more
I only have fond memory of this book, as it managed to bring me closer to a colleague which now have become a dear friend of mine (how "Norwegian Wood", friendship that was started by a book).
My only regret was that I got the copy of the old edition,...more
I thoroughly enjoyed this book. The story is involving, brimming with cultural, scientific, architectural ideas; the characters are funny and their situations involving and interesting. Onno and Max are great friends and their story is not just about two middle aged men in diverse careers (Astronomy and Politics), but almost about Amsterdam, Europe, everything... absolutely everything (i'm struggling to quantify).
Mulisch is a masterful writer who can create a scene without pretention, make his c...more
Mulisch is a masterful writer who can create a scene without pretention, make his c...more
This novel does very well in the first three parts to entertain, inform, and dazzle with lucid details and lively dialogue, then fantastically derails in part four. The character of Quinten Quist (completely uninteresting precisely because he is so exaggerated and supernatural) hijacks the novel, steering it into a mess of biblical cryptography and architectural fetishism. The last few hundred pages could have been any Dan Brown novel, except they were much more painful to read for having the as...more
Eerste 400 blz zijn subliem, vooral in de tekening van de driehoeksverhouding Onno-Ada-Max. Elke bladzijde is genieten en de situatieschetsen zijn soms geniaal.
Maar daarna stuikt het hele verhaal in elkaar: vanaf de comateuze toestand van Ada glijdt de spanning weg; de Bildungsroman die daarna volgt is nog gedeeltelijk te pruimen, maar het saaie detectiveverhaal waarmee de roman eindigt, is een anticlimax. Mulisch blijkt net als Claus een schrijver die gemakkelijk in automatismen vervalt: dikwi...more
Maar daarna stuikt het hele verhaal in elkaar: vanaf de comateuze toestand van Ada glijdt de spanning weg; de Bildungsroman die daarna volgt is nog gedeeltelijk te pruimen, maar het saaie detectiveverhaal waarmee de roman eindigt, is een anticlimax. Mulisch blijkt net als Claus een schrijver die gemakkelijk in automatismen vervalt: dikwi...more
Absolutely phenomenal book... was given to me as a gift when I was living in Amsterdam and could not put it down...
Should have the subtitle, 'An Introduction to Almost Everything', as you will find yourself with a hell of a lot of new interests, in Philosophy, Astronomy, Music, even lock picking... the list is endless. Rather than forcing these subjects into the story to impress upon the reader, that Mulisch is a polymath, they are beautifully woven in to an incredible story that will one day ta...more
Should have the subtitle, 'An Introduction to Almost Everything', as you will find yourself with a hell of a lot of new interests, in Philosophy, Astronomy, Music, even lock picking... the list is endless. Rather than forcing these subjects into the story to impress upon the reader, that Mulisch is a polymath, they are beautifully woven in to an incredible story that will one day ta...more
A fantastic romp through post-2nd world war Europe politics, astronomy, friendship, loyalty, love, religion, destiny, and more, with stints to Cuba and other places. In intelligent 'thriller' of sorts, with clever conversations, complex, deep characters, wild twists and turns of life, and dealing with the questions of why are we here? who put us here? are we just marionettes on missions from those beyond or do we have our own destinies to figure out. I have had this book, a gift, for 10 years, a...more
A couple of angels are talking. According to them we’ll be reading about 2 gentlemen who are destined to meet and drama ensues.
I picked this book up at some hole in the wall bookstore because it looked like the most interesting title in the store. Just goes to show the old adage of not judging a book by its cover.
So Onno & Max are the two gentlemen who meet (sometime in the 60’s) as predetermined by 2 random angels who have no known significance beyond their halos. They strike up a profoun...more
I picked this book up at some hole in the wall bookstore because it looked like the most interesting title in the store. Just goes to show the old adage of not judging a book by its cover.
So Onno & Max are the two gentlemen who meet (sometime in the 60’s) as predetermined by 2 random angels who have no known significance beyond their halos. They strike up a profoun...more
3.5 stars
Ooh my, I can't believe I actually finished this!! It feels like a huge accomplishment, haha! And I even ended up kinda liking it. I started reading because, well, my parents kinda forced me to and I was curious. I thought it was tiring at first but now, I like that I read it. I'm gonna lay out some things I liked and disliked about this book.
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- I liked that in the end, all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. There are no loose strings or unfinished story lines. Everything is do...more
Ooh my, I can't believe I actually finished this!! It feels like a huge accomplishment, haha! And I even ended up kinda liking it. I started reading because, well, my parents kinda forced me to and I was curious. I thought it was tiring at first but now, I like that I read it. I'm gonna lay out some things I liked and disliked about this book.
Likes:
- I liked that in the end, all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. There are no loose strings or unfinished story lines. Everything is do...more
This book is the size of a word book, but your time is better spent just reading definitions from a word book. It starts off promising, but it soon becomes apparent that the plot has no direction whatsoever, and that it's just a container for a couple of pseudo-scientific/philosophic passages. Those passages weren't necessarily bad, but most of them were of the level of "tell me something new." They are in no way good enough to justify the book, especially considering the fact that those passage...more
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Harry Kurt Victor Mulisch along with W.F. Hermans and Gerard Reve, is considered one of the "Great Three" of Dutch postwar literature. He has written novels, plays, essays, poems, and philosophical reflections.
Mulisch was born in Haarlem and has lived in Amsterdam since 1958, following the death of his father in 1957. Mulisch's father was from Austria-Hungary and emigrated to the Netherlands after...more
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I did like Mulisch's insistence on correct translation. Thus, it is rea...more
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