Xenocide (Ender's Saga, #3)
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Xenocide (The Ender Quintet #3)

3.72 of 5 stars 3.72  ·  rating details  ·  76,675 ratings  ·  2,311 reviews
Ender and Valentine Wiggin: brother and sister whose lives have shaped history. Valentine is 'Demosthenes', whose subversive, incendiary writings fight the monstrous power of Starways Congress, masters of the Hundred Worlds. And Ender… As a child, Ender commanded a warfleet that wiped out a planet. The triumph of his life could be his fight to stop it happening again. It m...more
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Published (first published 1991)
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This xkcd web comic makes for the best review of this book. http://xkcd.com/304/

I didn't hate it. The philosophy and science annoyingly reminded me of Tom Clancy's later stuff where he rambles on and on over minutia no one but him and his 7 true fans really enjoy. The rest of us start skimming hoping to find something to make continuing to read worth it. Only to depressingly read the last sentence wondering why successful authors stop using editors.

I grudgingly give this book a 3, based only on my affection for the characters and the creativity of the story. Most of the book suffers from overkill in one sense or another, which leads to its main problem of length. It´s impossible to deny that Card is brilliant, but I can think of no writers other than Tolstoy and Dickens (barely) that can justifiably write 600 or more pages of novel. Yes I'm aware I'm including Dostoyevsky in this statement (sorry Karamazov-lovers). Card could hav...more
Had this been a stand alone novel, rather than a continuation of the Ender Wiggins series, it probably wouldn’t have irritated me so much. In the interview with the author at the end of the CD, he pretty much verifies what I thought throughout the whole novel. The premises of this book is one that he had first thought of as an independent story line, but since Ender Wiggins was a ready made hit, rolled it into the trilogy instead. With each subsequent book, Card looses a bit more of the initial...more
Samantha Leigh
Oct 04, 2007 Samantha Leigh rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone.
Let me tell you the most beautiful story i know.
a man was given a dog, which he loved very much.
the dog went with him everywhere,
but the man could not teach it to do anything useful...
instead it regarded him with the same inscrutable expression.
"thats not a dog, its a wolf!" said the mans wife
"he alone is faithful to me" said the man
and his wife never discussed it with him again.
one day, the man took his dog with him onto his private airplane
and as they flew over the winter mountains
the engines...more
This may be my favorite of the Ender series. The dynamic with all of the different forms of alien life and the debate about when and whether it is OK to destroy such life is facsinating to me. I think that part of the reason I enjoy science fiction so much is that, not only does it force me to use my brain, but it can address real life issues in a setting that, although comparable to real life, does not have quite the same affect on my while still making me think about real principles. I am not...more
Riku Sayuj

Ender’s series has long been one of my favorite in the sci-fi genre and that is why I am slowly working through the series long after I have moved on from most of my childhood favorites. There was something about Ender’s world - even for a reader who was most at home with the most elaborate of high fantasy and sci-fi, the subdued world of Ender had a different sort of fascination. It did not try to sell a fancy world or any fancy technology or an advanced race of humans - none of the regular tro...more
5.0 stars. I was amazed by how good this book is. Speaker for the Dead is one of my all time favorite books and this book picks up right where Speaker left off. Superb characters, amazingly orginal concepts of life and the universe and intense ethical debate (Card's strong suit) highlight this exceptional novel. Highly recommended.

Nominee: Hugo Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1992)
Nominee: Locus Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1992)
Jeremy Johnson
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This is one of the most profoundly philosophical science fiction books ever written.

Humans have colonized the planet they call Lusitania, home to the "piggies," intelligent mammal-like animals with no technology. Then Ender Wiggin arrives, with the Hive Queen, the last remaining member of her high-tech species. Now three intelligent species must cohabit one world -- for if they leave it, they will take with them the ultimate biological weapon, the descolada virus.

Human contact with not one but t...more
Sep 13, 2007 Debbie rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: science fiction fans
Shelves: sciencefiction
Xenocide picks up Ender's story on Lusitania. With a starship on the way to destroy the planet, Ender and his family race to find a cure for the descolada, a virus integral to the life cycle of the pequeninos, but lethal to humans. Jane, a sentient being who came to life as a result of the bugger's attempt to contact Ender through the fantasy computer game, may die as a result of her efforts to help Ender stop the destruction of Lusitania. A faction of the pequeninos decides they want to bring t...more
I keep taking away stars. I am cruel. The problem with this book is the use of stereotypes and isn't it sort of, I don't know, unsettling to people how monochromatic these worlds are? A world where everyone is Chinese or Japanese or Brazilian. Where would someone like me fit in? Just because you're in a world full of people like you ethnically or religiously doesn't mean you will fit in.

This is sort of the same problem in Children of the Mind too, where you have whole worlds were most of the pe...more
Josh Hopping
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Wow. It took me so long to finish this book after racing through the previous portion of this series. It's really too bad because Orson Scott Card's ideas are definitely worth exploring -- some of the most thought provoking and original of the ones that I have read in my limited science fiction repertoire. Card is truly one of the most brilliant writers I have had the pleasure of reading.

That said, certain portions of the book I just found to be tedious. I finally finished this only after borrow...more
Sharon The Cat
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This was on it way to being a middle of the road - didnt love it or hate sci-fi novel, when a sermon broke out. I spent a number of hours getting preached at, and I didnt care for it.
It didnt even feel like the well-intentioned if ham fisted style of RAH trying to dole out advice / his world view - it was literally a sermon.

Jesus save the aliens, and in the end, just wishing (and a self-aware super-computer) can make miracles. It was a pretty bad excuse for fiction. And the ending resolved very...more
BJ Rose
A weak 4* but deserves more than 3*. There were several disappointments in this book, but the main one is that so much of the book was spent on detailing the OCD actions of the 'godspoken', that the author decided to write a part 2 Children of the Mind rather than dealing now with resolving the problems of Jane's survival and the splintering of Ender's adopted family - in fact, those problems just kept getting bigger! And I'm not sure i'm optimistic enough to want to read the 4th book of what sh...more
"So let me tell you what I think about gods. I think a real god is not going to be so scared or angry that he tries to keep other people down . . . A real god doesn’t care about control. A real god already has control of everything that needs controlling. Real gods would want to teach you how to be just like them."

The third part of the Ender Quartet, the sequel to Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, which takes place on the Brazilian colony of Lusitania -- the habitat of all three known spe...more
Short off topic review - I often wonder when someone does something legendary did they know what they were doing was going to be epic, or did they just fluke it?

After reading this, Enders game seems more of a fluke to me, then something OSC knew would be legendary. Even more so when you hear his vile homophobic remarks and his wild conspiracies about Obama. I don't know at what point OSC came to Jesus, but this level of Christianity in this book is overwhelming, and no real counter argument is e...more
Anika Knudsen
What if a whole new species was found living on a completely different planet? In the book Xenocide by Orson Scott Card, there is a planet called Lusitania that holds a human colony, but humans aren’t the only creatures that live on this planet. There is a native species, known as pequininos that thrive there as well. They are highly intelligent, and learn human languages very quickly. A virus that is fatal to the humans happens to be the virus that the pequininos need to survive. The numbers of...more
This was a very weakly written book. OSC has way too much dialogue without purpose, and weak characters, which is a sad way for Ender to have developed from the first book, Ideas and discussions and plot all meander throughout the novel, then OSC tries to wrap it up with a ridiculous deus ex machina that was frustrating to be asked to believe in. OSC's concept of gaiaology was another point of frustration. If you cannot include decent science in science fiction on a consistent basis, then don't...more
Kat  Hooper
Originally published at Fantasy Literature.

Xenocide is the third book in Orson Scott Card’s award-winning ENDER WIGGEN saga. In the first book, Ender’s Game, the child Ender Wiggen was trained to wipe out the alien “buggers” who were planning to destroy the earth. The second novel, Speaker for the Dead, takes place years later when Ender visits the planet Lusitania where Xenologists are studying two non-human species: the pequininos, who have an unusual life cycle, and the descolada virus, which...more
I was throughly enjoying enders story, until i got to this book. I was really into the story and the characters and all that but then i came to the end of this story. Spoiler alert: all of a sudden, its like the writer hit a wall and just thought, oh- i know, i will just make up this completely ridiculous outside place to literally create new characters for me so i can keep writing. And thats what he did. I know this book is fiction and set in the future but that is far too unbelievable for me,...more
** spoiler alert ** How many stars do you give a book that starts off good, wanders around dully in the middle, and then becomes offensively horrible at the end? Do you average 5, 3, and 1 star? Do you give it 2 because of the overall picture? Do you give it 1 because it's doubly bad to start out promising and then mislead the reader?

I'm in the last category.

I'm 90% finished, and I think I'm not going to make it much further. I loved the first two books, but this one is sort of awful. It started...more
After thirty years, Valentine and her family arrived in Lusitania. But instead of expecting a happy reunion with her long-time-no-see brother, she gets a depressing reunion with a problem she once set aside.

The Lusitania hasn’t yet resolved the problem of killing descolada. It’s still undecided if it’s a raman or a varelse.

At the same time, the Lusitania fleet is coming and every species in Lusitania is preparing for it.

A planet has dwelled by people who are genetically altered by Starways Con
September 2009
Previously: Speaker for the Dead

Almost thirty years have passed since Ender first came to the planet Lusitania (although for his sister Valentine and his stepson Miro, thanks to relativity brought on by near-lightspeed travel, only a week has passed) and events are coming to a head. The descolada virus, fatal to humans but essential to the development of Lusitania's native life, is resisting all efforts to contain it--and the ships sent by Starways Congress to destroy the planet an...more
Xenocide almost completes the Ender saga, and what a thoughtful and powerful book it is. 5 Stars. Card tackles some big themes and questions here. (This is not a standalone book, you have to read Speaker for the Dead to really understand this book.) Card does not do space battles in the book although a fleet has been sent from “The Hundred Worlds” to destroy Lusitania with the “Little Doctor” weapon first used in Ender's Game. Valentine, along with her family, is on her way to Lusitania to reuni...more
aPriL meows 'n growls TLDR
I adore the Ender series. This is really part one of a two book set in the series. On to the Children of the Mind next which will finish what was started in Xenocide. There are a lot of ideas in the story as everything related to the psychology and philosophy of prejudice is explored in a dramatic speculative fiction setting. Religion and politics, as well as basic species survival imperatives come into play throughout the complete Ender series. Generally the book is very realistic and true to h...more
Laura W
4.5 stars

Finally I finished!! Yes!!! *does happy dance around room while holding book in outstretched hands* This took me FOREVER to read, not because it was boring but because it was so dang deep. Like you throw a rock down a hole and you never hear it hit the bottom it's so deep. One can take this book a number of different ways.

1. Yay! It's a space adventure! (view spoiler)

2. So. Boring. All they did was talk philosoph...more
The short-version review for this book comes in the form of an image I’d like to plant in your head.

Imagine yourself standing in a large, densely populated area. Think Grand Central Terminal, Times Square or the floor at Comic Con on a Saturday. You’re standing there, head tilted back, eyes squeezed shut, hands clenched into fists at your side as you scream out every ounce of anger, frustration, confusion, and disappointment that you’ve ever experienced in your lifetime, from the depths of your...more
Duffy Pratt
The fleet is coming to destroy planet Lusitania! The piggies may counter by releasing the Descolada virus to destroy all humanity! No matter what Ender decides, an intelligent life form may be annihilated! Holy ethical dilemma, Batman! Let's talk freshman philosophy.

Speaker for the Dead was about what it is to be human. This one raises the stakes, and it's mostly about what it is to be a god. And here, Card basically goes a bit heavy handed on the Mormon theology. A true god would want to make p...more
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series Th...more
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