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Vivo O Muerto (Jack Ryan, Jr. #2)

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Jack Ryan, the former president of the United States, is out of office, but not out of the loop about his brainchild, the Campus, a highly effective, counter-terrorism organization that operates outside the Washington hierarchy. But what Ryan doesn't know is that his son, Jack Ryan, Jr., has joined his cousins, Brian and Dominic Caruso, at the shadowy Campus. While a highl ...more
Paperback, 635 pages
Published December 1st 2011 by Umbriel (first published December 7th 2010)
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Rachel C.
Plowed through this book in one day. I went in eager to approve, but didn't like it as much as I'd hoped. This is the first time Clancy has shared a byline on a Jack Ryan book and I'm a bit scared that the floodgates are now open for a ton of Patterson-esque cheap knockoffs.

I guess it was easier to enjoy the Cold War Clancys since there was historical, and therefore psychic, distance. I found it much harder to turn my head off and become immersed in this Middle East / terrorism story. I kept com
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Wayne
Jan 21, 2011 Wayne rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: own, fiction
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Peri Kinder
"Dead or Alive” was boring. There wasn’t that hanging-on-the-edge-of-my-seat suspense that Clancy writes so well. I thought the writing was choppy, the story was bland and the characters were flat–except for the women, who always seem to have large chests. I trudged through 900 pages hoping it would get better–but it never did.

Give me “Hunt for Red October” or “Clear and Present Danger” and I’ll be in espionage heaven. But this one didn’t work. Too bad. But I’m not giving up on Clancy yet, maybe
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Alain Burrese
Aug 04, 2012 Alain Burrese rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
It had been a long time since reading about the exploits of Jack Ryan, John Clark, "Ding" Chavez, and the Caruso brothers, Brian and Dominic. I've always enjoyed Tom Clancy, and have to admit, "Without Remorse" and "Rainbow Six" were probably my favorites because I really like the character John Clark. So, when "Dead Or Alive" came out, I was excited to read the newest story about Clark that also featured all of the other main characters from Clancy's novels. For whatever reason, the book got se ...more
Mike (the Paladin)
This is another book the drives me to mention that we REALLY need a 10 star or a half star system. I switched back and forth between 3 and 4 stars on this one so often I almost needed Dramamine.

Of course the problem there would have been that when the book lost that 4th star it was because it slooooowed wwwwaaaayyyyy dddooowwwnnn... Since Dramamine makes you drowsy you can see the problem.

The book is well plotted as has been Clancy's record. We're following the characters of Jack Ryan, Jack Ry
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Daniel
Mar 19, 2011 Daniel rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Most people think Tom Clancy lost his nut on 9/11. And it's true, he's bugfuck insane. But it actually happened earlier than that. His fiction was predicated on the cold war, and the cold war ended, so Clancy flailed around looking for some bad guys to fictionally blow up. He tried the Japanese (Debt of Honor, 1994) and environmentalists (Rainbow Six, 1998). 2001 was actually a good setup for him, because he had a new generational conflict to fictionalize.

The thing is, the brain-eater got him. "
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Paul Pessolano
Those of us who read Tom Clancy had to wait almost a decade for this book, and it is co-written.

"Dead or Alive" brings back the men of Rainbow Six, Jack Ryan, and Mary Pat Foley. It seems that Ding and John Clark are being mustered out of the service but find themselves employed by "The Campus". The Campus is a secret agency posing as a financial institute that runs covert operations but has no direct connection to the American Government. The Campus was set up by Jack Ryan before he left the Pr
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William Breakstone
BOOK REVIEW

“Dead or Alive” by Tom Clancy

Reviewed by Bill Breakstone, January 12, 2011

Tom Clancy’s latest novel, “Dead or Alive,” is a 950-page monster, his 14th in a series that began with his classic “Hunt for Red October,” published way back in 1984. I’ve read 13 of these books, all but “Teeth of the Tiger,” and enjoyed them all. My last Clancy read was in 2000, thus it was a pleasure to return to most of the old characters, with a few new ones tossed in.

Dead or Alive is a complicated, many-l
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Miles
Dec 24, 2010 Miles rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Weighing in at well over 700 pages, Dead or Alive by Tom Clancy and aided by Grant Blackwood is a monumental publication. Although in no rush to finish the book, it took me three days to finish and, my overall reaction to reading my first Tom Clancy thriller was one of efficaciousness.

It’s not very often that a book can afford to spend in excess of 200 pages creating a thorough and enviable foundation but Dead or Alive successfully achieves this, all the while creating countless scenarios and on
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Dodol Surodol
A long read, Dead or Alive is. I don't know if it's the "with" authorship or Clancy having changed -- lost his edge, if you will -- since '90s, but I find myself longing for the days of Patriot Games and The Cardinal of the Kremlin.

The actions are still good, the I.T. stuff believable (which is better than most books), and all-star setup having me excited. The authors are very in-your-face now with their right leaning. Either you're right or you're incompetent. The good guys even deem torture ne
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Ryan Mac
Jan 01, 2011 Ryan Mac rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I have to agree with several of the other reviewers--this was not a bad book but not up to the classic Clancy standards. The book focuses on The Campus, introduced in an earlier book. Several old characters like John Clark, Ding Chavez, the Foleys and others reappear. It was nice to see them again and nice that Clancy gave Jack Ryan, Jr. some personality. It was sorely lacking in the last book. Better than the average book of this genre lately. Don't be fooled by the size of the book (my copy ha ...more
Josh Glover
Oh, another Islamist terror cell operating in the US with a grand plan to set off a nuke? How surprising!

This is the first Clancy book that is written "with" another author, and it feels to me not much different than the Tom Clancy-branded "Op Center" and "Net Force" series. Those are perfectly OK if you just want a high octane page-turner, but I've come to expect a lot more from Tom Clancy.

Without knowing the details, I suspect that Clancy himself outlined the plot and read the manuscript, but
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Daniel
Jan 24, 2016 Daniel rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
If I were asked to provide a quote for a cover blurb, I think "not quite as crap as the last one" would just about cover it. Still crap though.

A boring paint by the numbers plot, and while I've long thought that Clancy's fame for excellent research was unjustified the moment he went beyond the US borders or military topics, this one is particularly bad.

An example: One character flies from Moscow-Domodedovo to Berlin-Tempelhof in a KLM Boeing 747. That sentence alone contains five mistakes:
1. Tem
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Russell Brooks
Nov 23, 2013 Russell Brooks rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I tried. I really tried to get through this story. But there were too many problems with the way that it was written and put together that I decided that it wasn't worth struggling to like a story that just wasn't moving along. After 509 pages, I'm lost and don't see the point of continuing. I just had to accept that if I'm struggling with the story, then I'm not enjoying it.

To be fair, there were a few good things about it. The detailed military tactical info and a good description of the CIA's
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William
Jan 12, 2011 William rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Never judge Tom Clancy against the yardstick of literature, but do take his measure by the other books he has written. Reading his stuff should be a guilty pleasure, done for the fun of it. Sadly, reading his latest book “Dead or Alive” was more of a guilty chore.

The book weighs in at a hefty 900+ pages. There is lots of white space around the words. The story's pace never makes it out of second gear. The action jogs along at a sedate pace, not at the red-hot speed of a ripping page-turner. It r
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James
Jun 07, 2012 James rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: military
This sequel to Teeth of the Tiger resumes the story of Jack Ryan, Jr. and The Campus, an off the books anti-terrorist organization setup by then President Jack Ryan. Going after terrorists by any means necessary, the story starts by integrating two previous Clancy characters last seen in Rainbow Six, John Clark and "Ding" Chavez, into The Campus, with Clark becoming Jack, Jr.'s training officer. The United States is again threatened by the Emir, a shadowy Osama Bin Laden-type terrorist leader wh ...more
Jim
Feb 10, 2012 Jim rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Nobody does intelligence/spy thrillers as well as Tom Clancy. I am not sure why he has a collaborator on this book, but you cannot tell, it reads just like his other Jack Ryan novels. Unlike other spy fiction that focuses solely on the agents in the field, Clancy covers the entire intelligence community, agents, analysts and the political structure of various agencies and how they interact, or fail to interact, with each other.

The scenarios are more realistic, sometimes the intelligence is there
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Tim
Dec 28, 2010 Tim rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Mark
Dec 23, 2010 Mark rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: maryland-vanity
My dad informed me there was a new Jack Ryan book and then passed it along to me. I remember a summer, which seems not long ago but was in fact a decade now, where I devoured pretty much every Clancy book that had been written up to that point - up to Rainbow Six, I believe. Even at the time there was something of a guilty pleasure element to it and that's only worse now. Clancy is what he is and isn't what he isn't, and being as the man is from Maryland he always manages to get me with a little ...more
Jay
May 28, 2011 Jay rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I'm going to rate this as a guilty pleasure 4 stars

I can't help but compare this to David Weber's "A Mighty Fortress", which I reviewed recently.

* Both books are the latest entry in a series of indeterminate length.
* Both books are ... let's say "plus sized"; Clancy's coming in at over 900 pages.
* Both authors are "Franchises".

Maybe I should explain what I mean by that. Besides writing their own books, both writers have enlisted other writers to write books in their "universe". A great way to ea
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Jessica Sallwasser
I don't think I'm a big Tom Clancy fan. The book was just OK. I haven't read the earlier big hits, though, so I can't compare. There were some VERY minor points that really, really irritated me for some reason.

They are:
Jack Ryan's daughter showed up for one scene, apparently just so the other characters could make fun of her for being a vegetarian and trying to care about the environment. Oh, and they really "got her" with: "I bet you don't want to fix the ozone layer, because you like tanning
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Chris Hubbs
Dec 31, 2010 Chris Hubbs rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2010-reads
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steven
Sep 10, 2013 steven rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
My first-ever Tom Clancy novel. I found a terrifying distopia with an unsettling ending, and nary a hero to be found.

Set in a world where an ex-spy was made President of the U.S. for five years, stepped down, and now wants to be reelected. The current administration cuts funding for field agents, but that's OK, because the former President had a plan: set up an ultra-secret spy organization, privately funded and accountable to no one, and trust them with the security of the nation.

On top of *tha
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Topher
Mar 30, 2011 Topher rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: spy-tech-etc
I have fond memories of clancy books - I seem to remember really enjoying a lot of his books, and given the size of his books, well, let's face it - we get our money's worth.

On the other hand, I just barely remember reading the last few of his books. I remember enjoying Rainbow Six (late 90s), and I think I remember enjoying up through the Bear and the Dragon (early 2000s) - though the idea of a war with Japan and the events that fell out of that seemed ludicrous at the time, and even sillier no
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Brian
Dec 01, 2012 Brian rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
I had not picked up a Tom Clancy book in almost 10 years. I was a tremendous fan of his books through the late 80's and into the 90's. So let's start with what is good: Tom Clancy, as always, DOES HIS RESEARCH. He is a master at getting into the nitty-gritty technical details that it really makes you believe that he is writing from well inside some super-secret-squirrel compartment dug well inside the catacombs of government. His understanding of the military and tactics is also impressive and c ...more
John
Jul 06, 2011 John rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is a tough book to rate. It was a strange book to read, too. At times, it read like really, really good fanfic. It's been a while since Clancy came out with a Ryan/Clark/Chavez book and maybe that's the reason.

Anyway, I'll keep this spoiler free and just say that the book had a really good ending when the action stopped, but Clancy couldn't stop himself from indulging in a little bit of fantasy/wish fulfillment at the end which was both unnecessary and unfulfilling.

Both Jack Ryans are bac
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Trudy
Nov 18, 2015 Trudy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A good listening book while walking. Kept me entertained.
Wayland Smith
I think The Campus is one of Tom Clancy's daydreams, something he'd sort of think about, smile, and say, "Yeah, that'd be cool," or whatever phrase he'd use. It's an interesting idea, but the book has its disturbing bits.

It's kind of an All Star team of Clancy characters- Jack Ryan, his son, John Clark, Ding Chavez, and Mary Pat Foley are all back. Clark and Chavez are finally leaving the service, but there is something new waiting for them. We learn what the Campus is as the characters do.

Jack
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Lis
Jan 03, 2016 Lis rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
La solita minestra

Dopo I denti della tigre le aspettative per questo libro erano piuttosto basse eppure ho trovato comunque parecchie note negative. In sintesi:
- Da un po' è sempre la stessa solfa: cattivoni che vogliono creare problemi agli Stati Uniti e "buoni" che alla fine trionfano.
- Gli arabi di questi ultimi libri della serie sono un po' monotoni. I russi interpretavano meglio la parte dei cattivi, e mi stavano anche più simpatici.
- Lo specialista di computer del Campus è praticamente un
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C.T. Phipps
Dead or Alive is a difficult book for me to review. On one hand, the book is quite entertaining and doesn't drag nearly as much as a 'typical' Clancy novel. On the other hand, the book takes all of Clancy's usual straw politics to the eleven plus has some genuinely ridiculous scenes. I'm reminded a bit of David Weber's early Honor Harrington books in how the story itself is quite good but the bad guys' beliefs are so caricatured they become a source of unintentional comedy.

The premise of Dead
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Tom Clancy was an English major at Baltimore’s Loyola College. As a Maryland insurance broker with a passion for naval history, his dream of writing a novel came true with his first effort, The Hunt for Red October (1984).

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“That’s up to you, Jack, but part of doing this kind of work is the willingness to put on blinders. Deal with what’s in front of you. Every terrorist has a mother and father. Maybe kids, maybe people that love him. Hell, six days out of seven he might be a decent citizen, but on that one day he decides to pick up a gun or plant a bomb, he’s a threat. And if you’re the guy standing between him and innocent lives, the threat is all you can afford to worry about. You get what I’m saying?” 1 likes
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