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Sand & Water

by Shae Connor (Goodreads Author)

3.61 of 5 stars 3.61 · rating details · 163 ratings · 43 reviews

Widower John McConnell gets along fine raising his daughter on Georgia's Tybee Island, though he wouldn't exactly say he's happy. Haunted by the memory of his dead wife, John hasn't considered dating again until he meets Bryan Simmons in the park. It isn't long before John realizes that what he feels for Bryan could be something real, but how will he know he's ready to mov...more

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Published August 15th 2011 by Dreamspinner Press

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Feb 29, 2012 rameau rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: arc-galley, lgbt, romance, something-positive-shelf, read-in-2012, contemporary

Review edited as per request of the publisher on February 29th. See the comments for more.

I admit I'd be heartbroken if I ever found out this was one of those plagiarised works.

Because I really, really liked this story.

I liked the sweetness of it. I liked it even when it bordered eye-roll-inducing sappiness.

I liked how everything was so delightfully normal. I liked how family and friends didn't just disappear when the crushing started.

I liked how John never forgot to put his daughter first. I...more

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rameau Sandra wrote: "Ah. Okay. Just wondering since she specifically says in her comment that she herself has converted fanfic to published books."

I'd be ve...more
Mar 01, 2012 01:50pm

Shae Connor Hi all. I don't usually step into discussions like these, but there are several reasons to do so here. I don't expect anyone to change his or her mind...more Hi all. I don't usually step into discussions like these, but there are several reasons to do so here. I don't expect anyone to change his or her mind about any of this. Everyone has their viewpoints, and that's fine. But I did want to clear up things a little.

The main thing I want to state, for the record, is that Sand & Water has never been published in any form before its publication by Dreamspinner. rameau, I'm very glad that you enjoyed the story, and I thank you for such a lovely review.

(Also, I didn't have a hand in the revision request. I didn't see the review until about an hour ago, long after it was revised.)

Secondarily, yes, as I've said elsewhere, I've reused parts of old fanfiction stories as the basis for a few short stories that have since been published in original form. I do think there's some fundamental misunderstanding about the subject, but I don't blame anyone for that, considering there have been some pretty high-profile cases (and not just in indie publishing) where the resulting "original" story wasn't all that original at all. As my comment that's quoted above says (and as I've said elsewhere), if someone else's intellectual property is in your story without permission/credit, then it's NOT original. And that's not okay.

In my case, I stripped away anything that came from the source material, took the basic plot ideas and development that I created, and rebuilt a new story around the remaining pieces. I love playing in other people's playgrounds sometimes (my first "fanfic" was making up Bionic Woman stories when I was in grade school), but I bring my own toys, and I take only those with me when I leave.

If you choose not to read my other stories because some of it might have been part of a fanfic story at some point, that's fine. I don't have a problem knowing that people disagree with me on the subject. But I don't believe that taking material I created and using it in a different way is wrong.

(I won't get into issues with other authors or with publishers. I can only speak for myself.)

Thanks for reading. :)(less)
Mar 04, 2012 07:51pm

Feb 25, 2012 Arthur rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: like-listening-to-romance-d-amour

A very moving story about two men whose lives were suddenly taken from them.

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Aug 27, 2011 MandyM rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: m-m-romance

Gentle story of a widower taking a chance on love the second time around. John's wife died in childbirth 4 years previously leaving him with his lovely daughter Beth. He meets Bryan in the park when Beth and Bryan's nephew strike up a friendship. Initially neither man sees their meeting as anything more than an acquaintanceship moving gradually towards friendship. But slowly John starts to find Bryan more and more attractive. The emotional baggage they both carry makes them decide to move cautio...more

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Jan 03, 2013 Suze rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: more-please, sweet, kids

Whew! Sweet relief. Mea culpa: I'm a fairly new MM reader (first book I read was Bareback in December 2010) but I am SO sick of reading about guys with no self-control. Yes, most books in this genre are short but must there be a sex scene 5 minutes after the two leads meet? What happened to character development? Luckily for me, I was able to get this book with a discount code offered on the publisher's Facebook page.

Sand and Water is a sweet and well-paced book about a widower and single fathe...more

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Jan 25, 2013 Tina rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: m-m

This was a solid 'meh' for me. I mean, I liked it - the writing was solid, the story was good and I connected with the characters. It was a slow burn romance with the actual smex not happening until about 50 pages from the end. And I liked that - both characters had issues that needed dealing with before jumping into sexy times.

I guess what kept this from being really good for me was the fact that there was very little conflict outside of the two personal issues both characters had. While this...more

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Nov 12, 2011 Tracy rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: netgalley, arc, m-m-contemporary-romance, lgbt

Sweet, But Too Simple
Widower John McConnell still grieves the love of his life, the woman he was lucky enough to marry but lost during the birth of their daughter. Five years has given him some perspective, though, and he's just as likely to wake up smiling from memories as he is to wake up aching with loss - which is a major improvement - and there's no doubt their daughter is a source of joy to him. After the first year, a dark time John would prefer to forget, he hasn't given thought to any s...more Sweet, But Too Simple
Widower John McConnell still grieves the love of his life, the woman he was lucky enough to marry but lost during the birth of their daughter. Five years has given him some perspective, though, and he's just as likely to wake up smiling from memories as he is to wake up aching with loss - which is a major improvement - and there's no doubt their daughter is a source of joy to him. After the first year, a dark time John would prefer to forget, he hasn't given thought to any sort of social life, his focus on raising his daughter and surviving his loss.

Life goes on, though, and grief eases eventually. One day John looks over at the uncle of his daughter's best friend, a handsome young man named Bryan Simmons, and feels a mix of desire and tenderness stir for the first time since he buried his wife. John has always known he wasn't totally straight - he'd dated a man before he met his wife - so it wasn't an issue of gender, but there was a sadness behind Bryan's eyes that John didn't understand. One he would be willing to help ease if Byran would take a chance on an older widower who may or may not have it in him to love again.

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Though Sand & Water is a simple, sweet romance with a lovely setting and pleasant characters, it didn't do enough for me to set itself apart or make itself particularly memorable, and there were a few issues that bothered me. I felt a little overwhelmed by the superfluous detail in the narrative. It dragged down the pace of the story until it waddled along in places, moving slower than the turtles Bethy favored. I would have preferred more depth in the character definition and plot instead of the minute detail given to the characters' thoughts and actions.

I also thought story execution was lacking in sophistication, most notably in the beginning, which felt awkward and unnatural during the initial introduction of John and Bryan. Dialogue was stilted and odd and I had a hard time imagining any conversation between two strangers going that way, regardless of gender or sexuality. On a brighter note, the dialogue issues didn't continue, though a lack of sophistication in concept as well as design continue to plague the book throughout.

There was a noted lack of genuine conflict, either personal or relationship, that made the plot seem very one-note, and little was provided to flesh out either character. By the time either John or Bryan's history came up it became the sole source of potential relationship conflict, but without much given to really develop any of the fallout from the past, the rush to resolution washed out the emotional impact of some potentially significant backstory. I was also disappointed that none of the more timely issues and questions about how a relationship between John and Bryan would work were addressed or given more than a passing and nebulous nod.

My overall impression of the book was one of apathy. I can't say I disliked it, but there wasn't much given to me to really enjoy, either. Certainly nothing of significant merit was truly hashed out in this book, and what few personal issues the characters had were mostly addressed out of the reader's view or glossed over quickly. There was a lot of potential in both characters and story, but it went unrealized. I would have liked some genuine meat being added to the anemic plot and much more character definition provided to all of them. What's there isn't bad so much as it is mostly inconsequential and, unfortunately, forgettable.

Disclosure: An ARC of this book was provided to me by Dreamspinner Press via NetGalley. This rating, review, and all included thoughts and comments are my own.

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Sep 16, 2011 Mackenzie rated it 4 of 5 stars

Two men's deliciously UST-filled progress from being complete strangers to being the sweetest of couples? With two small kids around providing much-appreciated adorableness? Sold. I have officially found another go-to author for "relaxing Sunday afternoon reading". Shae Connor, you make my Sunday afternoon more beautiful!

Except I didn't read this story on a Sunday afternoon. I read this at night, after a grueling day at work on Monday, and finished it during lunchtime on Tuesday (again at work),...more

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Sep 07, 2011 Sandra "Jeanz" rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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John McConnell is a widower and is getting along fine raising his daughter on Georgia's Tybee Island, though he wouldn't exactly say he's happy.John is haunted by the memory of his dead wife, he hasn't even considered dating again. All that changes when he meets Bryan Simmons in the park. It doesn't take long before John realizes that what he feels for Bryan could be something real. But how will John know when he's ready to move on?
Bryan carries his own...more

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Aug 27, 2011 Marina rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: pre-2012-read, queerlit, romance, family

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. 3.5, more like it.
This is a story of John, a widower with a daughter, and Bryan, a guy he meets at the park and makes friends with. Bryan has his own issues to overcome as well.

I really liked that it took a while for the romantic and especially sexual part of the relationship to develop. It was very slow-paced, but only as far as development page-count wise. What I mean to say is that it took many pages in the book for the relationship to develop, but the actual relationship wasn't that slow....more

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Aug 14, 2011 Ami rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: mm-romance-or-erotica, mm-family-kids

I like Shae Connor's stories and this is her first novel-length title. When I see the word "daughter", I can't help to immediately jump on it. What can I say, I love single dads with kids. In this one, there is not only one kid but TWO. John's daughter, Beth, and Bryan's nephew, Jeremy. I'm a goner :)

Some technical information first: the story is written in 3rd person, but John is the main narrator (no alternate point of view). John is a bisexual. He was married to a woman for seven years before...more I like Shae Connor's stories and this is her first novel-length title. When I see the word "daughter", I can't help to immediately jump on it. What can I say, I love single dads with kids. In this one, there is not only one kid but TWO. John's daughter, Beth, and Bryan's nephew, Jeremy. I'm a goner :)

Some technical information first: the story is written in 3rd person, but John is the main narrator (no alternate point of view). John is a bisexual. He was married to a woman for seven years before she died on child birth but John had experience of having a boyfriend. Bryan is gay and younger than John.

The story moves in SLOW pace. Both John and Bryan take time to build a relationship. The scenes mainly move from John's daily routines to taking Beth to a play date with Bryan and Jeremy, to dinner, to interaction with other secondary characters in the book (John's aunt, Meaghan, or Bryan's sister, Karen). And in between we have John's thoughts about his memory of Liz and his growing attraction to Bryan.

The first kiss doesn't happen until around 48% of the story (page 116 in .pdf). Even until so, they don't immediately move to love making. Readers must wait until the last two chapters for that since Bryan has a painful past that he must deals first. SO, this should be a warning for readers who don't enjoy this kind of pace. This kind of day-to-day activities rather than romance or sex.

Me? I love it. I enjoy reading John's interaction with his daughter. I enjoy reading John's trying to grow courage to make a relationship with Bryan. The kids are adorable -- and I love how the two men interact with them, from simple eat out to talking about Spongebob. It's not erotic but it sure feels homey and comfortable.

Then there is Bryan's past. I'm not going to spoil much but when Bryan deals with this, it makes my eyes all teary. It's emotional and heartbreaking.

So the story might never have an explosive climax, but rather a steady pace. But if you love story with kids, you don't want to miss this one. (less)

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Oct 04, 2011 Kerry sullivan rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: gay-fiction, romance

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Widower John McConnell gets along fine raising his daughter on Georgia's Tybee Island, though he wouldn't exactly say he's happy. Haunted by the memory of his dead wife, John hasn't considered dating again until he meets Bryan Simmons in the park. It isn't long before John realizes that what he feels for Bryan could be something real, but how will he know he's ready to move on?

As John soon discovers, Bryan carries some heavy emotional...more

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Feb 05, 2013 Laura rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: bingo, just-ok, children

I would like to start by saying I am not a fan of the Slow Burn romance. I have no patience and would like instant (or at least near instant) gratification when it comes to romance. Up until around the 80% mark the characters did little more than kiss. There was a lot of backstory told (the characters both had romantic tragedies in their past) but I just couldn't get myself interested enough in the backstory, or if I am being honest in the current romance. It seemed too long in the telling, almo...more

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Aug 27, 2011 Vicktor Alexander rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: Katharina, Kate B, Luci, Thorny, Matt, Brad, M/M Romance Group

This is a M/M family story that really focuses more on family and healing from past hurts and disappointments than the romance aspect.

First we meet John, single father of Beth, who lost his wife five years before this book begins. John works from home so he can raise "Bethy" with the assistance of his young aunt Meghan. Beth is probably one of the cutest little girls that I've ever read in a family story. The scenes with her always made me smile, even if she was whining or sick. Mrs Connor wrote...more This is a M/M family story that really focuses more on family and healing from past hurts and disappointments than the romance aspect.

First we meet John, single father of Beth, who lost his wife five years before this book begins. John works from home so he can raise "Bethy" with the assistance of his young aunt Meghan. Beth is probably one of the cutest little girls that I've ever read in a family story. The scenes with her always made me smile, even if she was whining or sick. Mrs Connor wrote Beth's character very well.

John and Beth head to the park one day where Beth sees and runs off to play with her friend Jeremy who is at the park with his uncle Bryan (who from Shae's description is beyond delicious). John and Bryan talk and after a few misunderstandings, mis-communication, and a lot of jumping to conclusions, finally set a foundation for a great friendship.

Then the book got insanely sweet. There were pages upon pages, chapters upon chapters of John and Bryan's developing relationship, John's interaction with his daughter, his aunt and best friend Meghan (and her hesitance on beginning a relationship) and his interaction with Bryan's family at Bryan's insistence that I was actually hoping for some sort of conflict. Yes...me.

There was finally a hint of something and the book began to pick up for me.

There were a few things that really shocked me about this book. 1)Shae Connor obviously did some studying of the Bible because the vicar, whose name is Vicky and yes, I smiled at that, talks about it with John when he discusses it with her and her breakdown of those particular verses of Scripture were accurate, I was pleased. 2)The relationship and sexual tension/interactions between John and Bryan happened so late in this book that I was certain that I was missing a few pages...somewhere. 3)John has a very bad dinner with his mother, they have words, he leaves....and that's it. It's mentioned off-hand later in the book but that's it. 4)While I was happy with the way Mrs Connor resolved Bryan's conflict/issue, I was disappointed by John's constant hesitation and wavering when it came down to ACTUALLY doing something. 5)John's guilt over wanting to start a new relationship after the death of his wife is understandable, even after 5 years, but Mrs Connor had a few instances where John dreamed about his wife and then they just stopped, so while he thought about her or talked about her, he apparently didn't dream about her anymore, which would have been fine, had it been stated in the book that he didn't dream about her anymore.

I was pleasantly surprised by the D/s action towards the end of the book (Vic-my Dom bear that lives within me growled at that scene) but then as I continued to read I had a feeling with the way the writing was flowing that the story was about to fall off for me.

And it did.

While it had a nice...sweet...ending I felt as if I'd asked for lasagna at Olive Garden and then eaten so much salad, soup and breadsticks that by the time the lasagna got there I only got a few bites of the really good stuff before I had to ask the waiter (because who wants a waitress?) to box up the rest of the food for me to take home.

And "The Epilogue Whore" was NOT satisfied. It's the reason why this book has 4 stars instead of five. I read the last sentence and was hoping for more, hoping for some type of true resolution/closure/understanding about what was ACTUALLY going to happen (since the couple in question still wasn't 100% PUBLIC with their relationship), but I got nothing. As a matter of fact when I went to the next page I actually said "You have GOT to be kidding me! That's it?"

But, the fact that I wanted more? Well, that's also why this book got 4 stars instead of 3. Is it too much to ask for a sequel? A short story? Something more with this couple? I don't think so; and while I would most definitely recommend this book to those who love "Gay-with-Kids" and Gay-Family stories and those who like a little D/s but not enough or those who just love those "slow building to the love declarations" type of books, I probably wouldn't read this book again, even though I enjoyed it.(less)

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Sep 29, 2011 Anya rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Sand and Water is a gentle love story staring two lovelorn heroes. John McConnell thinks his life is great even though he is raising his daughter alone ever since the death of his wife, Elizabeth. He has no time nor thoughts of dating any time soon… That is until an ordinary day spent at the park with his daughter he meets newcomer, Bryan Simmons. He likes what he sees and the more time John spends with Bryan the more he realizes just how much John wants more. No matter how much he tries to go s...more

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Mar 01, 2013 Heather rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I loved the story of John and Bryan. Both men have a lot of issues that could drag them down, but Connor does a great job at pushing them forward. I haven’t read any novels previously where a man discovers his bisexuality later in life, and I wondered how the author would get me there – could I believe that he could fall in love with a man, considering his love for his wife? How would they deal with the community’s expectations? Et cetera. And for me, I’m not all-for romances with children. But...more

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Nov 04, 2011 Sharon rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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John lost his wife during the birth of their daughter five years ago. He spent the first year trying to drown his sorrows in meaningless sexual encounters with men and women. He finally decided to make a new start and moved in with his aunt on the beach. He deals with his pain by keeping busy with work and raising his daughter Beth.

Bryan, who is openly gay, shows up in the small beach town to help his sister and her family, renovate an old...more

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Oct 23, 2011 Librarian Kate rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Sweet, a bit slow in the pacing, but that was partly because the writing was beautifully descriptive. I thought it was a bit rose-colored-glasses on the rather casual acceptance of John's bisexuality; I've seen some pretty strong negative reactions from gay men when they are told someone identifies as bisexual, and his straight friends seem even less shocked/judgemental. I totally wish the world was more like the people in John and Bryan's world, but the discrimination that bisexual men and wome...more

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Nov 21, 2011 Terry rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Nice slow build romantic story for guys who want something other than graphic couplings. Well written book which jogs along at a pace keeping you wanting to know more. My main grouse is that it ended when it did with so many incomplete stories - for example John's mother and her reaction to his relationship with Bryan, the dinner scene seemed odd apart from the fact that you could contrast her behaviour with that of Beth's other grandparents. Maybe Shae is planning a follow up book to continue t...more

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Sep 20, 2011 Pam rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: contemporary, m-m-romance

I'd give it a 3.5
A sweet story filled with heavy emotional baggage by both John and Bryan. I liked that the guys started off as friends brought together by the two little kids Bethy and Jeremy. It was fun watching them interact and for the light to suddenly go on and for John to almost freak out when he realized he had romantic feeling for Bryan... feelings like he'd had for his deceased wife. I understood why the author chose to take their relationship slow but the details of daily life and inc...more

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Aug 15, 2011 TJ rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

3.5 stars. I've not read anything by Shae Connor before, and from what I understand, this is her first full length novel. It's probably best described as a slow burn, as the two MC's take quite some time to admit their feelings for each other. There's nothing wrong with that, nor really with this novel, as it is a pleasant read. However, it did feel like it was on one level the entire time, that there was no upward momentum. Not a bad way to spend a few hours.

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Nov 21, 2011 Aurora Alexander rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I loved the author's voice. The characters are endearing and well written. However, the pace of the story didn't work for me. It becomes particularly difficult to ignore when the characters are frequently emphasizing how slow they need to go. A slow simmer story doesn't require the characters to say they are going to go slow...they just do, and if the story comes together just right, the reader doesn't even notice.

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Feb 09, 2013 Jane rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

This story really was a "slow burn". I loved reading about the MCs relationship developed. Even though both MCs had a difficult past, I still thought this read was quite light. There was no angst, just a flow of words and sentences making up a very nice story. I do have to say that I felt like the story ended way too fast.

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Aug 18, 2011 Meggie rated it 4 of 5 stars

Really sweet romantic story plotted in slow motion. I liked how the plot developed and how both main characters behaved around each other. In my opinion everything was left open and a lot unsolved, but then you can write whole life in couple of pages. In overall this story was truly well written romance with emotions and warm people.

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Sep 15, 2011 Sarah rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Just what I needed a fluffy book :-D

This story was great the relationship building and development flowed great and I spent most of the time smiling while I was reading this book.

It probably won't be for everyone. There was very little angst so if you have to have angst in your stories this probably won't be for you.

This is the first book I have read by the author but won't be the last.

I hope she revisits these characters again i would love to read more.

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Nov 30, 2011 Edina Rose rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

3.5 stars

Emotional read. It's the love story between a bi guy who lost his wife and is bringing up their kid and a gay man who also has a tragedy in his past.

The story could have been intense and fast paced if it had focused more on the two heroes romance and less on family time with kids and relatives.

Recommended if you don't mind the slow pace and... the kids.

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Sep 03, 2011 Angela rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: m/m romance

Shelves: ebook, fiction, netgalley, m-m-romance

This was a very sweet story. The two MC have both had a lot of pain in their past and in falling in love they help each other through the rough stuff. Add in two cute kids and you can't help but enjoy this story. I'll be watching for more by this author.

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Aug 26, 2011 Karen rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: slashy-goodness, fluffy-love

i liked this one a lot, although all of the wicked grinning and snickering got a bit repetitive. i am a big fan of sweet love stories with a lot of character development, and that is what this book was - even with the overuse of a few adjectives.

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Aug 25, 2011 Kira rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Cute little story. It didn't suck me in enough to get more stars than this, but the writing is very good and if you're looking for a nice family story to read, this might just be it. :)

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Sep 12, 2011 Becky Mrs Condit Reads Books rated it 4 of 5 stars

I enjoyed this book. I wouldn’t say it has a HEA ending but it does have a strong HFN that hopefully is long lasting. Recommended for readers who love single father stories, m/m love affairs, and anyone who enjoys watching a relationship build to a love affair.

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Aug 17, 2011 Manuela rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

First part is slow, too much for my taste. Second half gets better but I admit at a certain point I started skipping a few words here and there.

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