Against Love: A Polemic
by
Laura Kipnis
Who would dream of being against love? No one.
Love is, as everyone knows, a mysterious and all-controlling force, with vast power over our thoughts and life decisions.
But is there something a bit worrisome about all this uniformity of opinion? Is this the one subject about which no disagreement will be entertained, about which one truth alone is permissible? Consider that...more
Love is, as everyone knows, a mysterious and all-controlling force, with vast power over our thoughts and life decisions.
But is there something a bit worrisome about all this uniformity of opinion? Is this the one subject about which no disagreement will be entertained, about which one truth alone is permissible? Consider that...more
Paperback, 224 pages
Published
September 14th 2004
by Vintage
(first published 2003)
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My favorite part of this book is a 9-page laundry list of all one can't do while in a relationship. To give you a sense of it:
"You can't leave the house without saying where you're going. You can't not say what time you'll return. You can't stay out past midnight, or eleven, or ten, or dinnertime, or not come right home after work. You can't go out when the other person feels like staying home. You can't go to parties alone. You can't go out just to go out, because you can't not be considerate...more
"You can't leave the house without saying where you're going. You can't not say what time you'll return. You can't stay out past midnight, or eleven, or ten, or dinnertime, or not come right home after work. You can't go out when the other person feels like staying home. You can't go to parties alone. You can't go out just to go out, because you can't not be considerate...more
Oct 21, 2007
sara
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
anyone wishing to challenge their perceptions of normativity
I recently read a few excerpts from this book for one of my graduate courses: it was definitely comforting to encounter a different slant on the marriage industrial complex. Ironically, a few days before reading Kipnis I found myself sandwiched in between three women (who were my peers in age) while they were avidly discussing marriage and all its supposed joys. Two of them were married and one was about to be in a few months. Anyway, I often find myself at odds with most people because I am not...more
I'm not sure how to sum this one up. An interesting failure? Maddening yet compelling? I think I remember hearing it angered a lot of people because it challenged their beliefs - which I'm all in favor of. Unfortunately, what aggravated me about this book is that it doesn't do it well. It's filled with instances of faulty logic (if A sometimes leads to B, it's a bit hinky to imply that A always leads to B), leaps of reasoning that border on the ludicrous, and arguments that start with the conclu...more
It would be so easy to simply disregard this book and the author. Clearly identifying with adulterers (only using "we" when discussing the cheaters POV) and therefore, in my opinion, personalizing the topic, Ms. Kipnis spends the entire book validating her claim that monogamy/love is simply unnatural. Now, don't get me wrong, while her book (and by "book" I mean "dissertation") does have a lot of valid points regarding monogamy and the rules and stipulations that come with it, she continuously b...more
Basic premise: Monogamy is incompatible with passionate love and historically passionate love rarely had anything to do with matrimony. Our culture's current rhetoric surrounding wedded bliss is unnatural and we see the results of the contradiction in the rate of divorces and infidelities in our marriages.
laura is writing a rant not a research paper but she's pulling her inspiration from philosopher/theorists, politics, religion, pop culture, the industrial revolution, current news headlines, su...more
laura is writing a rant not a research paper but she's pulling her inspiration from philosopher/theorists, politics, religion, pop culture, the industrial revolution, current news headlines, su...more
While I was reading this book on the N train, a man sat down next to me and said "I noticed the title of your book. It looks very interesting, but how can anyone be against love?"
Barf.
He then wrote me a note with his name and workplace, and told me to stop by sometime to swap books with him, because he, uh, likes to read too.
I'm so amused that this book, of all books, inspired that particular interaction. Kipnis is quite a provocateur, and she's also very, very funny. I related strongly to many...more
Barf.
He then wrote me a note with his name and workplace, and told me to stop by sometime to swap books with him, because he, uh, likes to read too.
I'm so amused that this book, of all books, inspired that particular interaction. Kipnis is quite a provocateur, and she's also very, very funny. I related strongly to many...more
Against Marriage ould be a much more accurate title for Laura Kipnis's book-length essay, Against Love: A Polemic. Kipnis says in a preface that her arguments are meant to be taken in a contrarian spirit, but I think that arguments made as the devil's advocate must still be coherent arguments--a criterion that not everything here seems to meet. Kipnis is quite willing to admit how fun love is, even if it makes you a little crazy. She's just not willing to buy into cultural pressure to commit to...more
My creative writing teacher at Sac State knows the author personally. He raves about her, and he's right! This is a must read book for all married and unmarried people, as we'll all become part of Kipnis's polemic of love. The author's philosophical, psychological and sociological insights into love and passion are absolutely astonishing, witty and funny. At one point she uses a funny joke to get her message across while denouncing love as too regulated and structured: "I'm not trying to change...more
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I expected to like this book a little more than I actually did. I picked it up because it was mentioned in another book, and I thought I might agree with the author, as I assumed it was an indictment of traditional monogamy. Which it is, in a way, but not exactly. To be fair, I was warned. Kipnis says in the introduction that this is a polemic, and so the mild whinginess is probably to be expected. Nonetheless, I find the lack of solutions frustrating. She makes some accurate points about what's...more
I love a good polemic, and I am hypercritical of conventional romance and sentimentality, but this wasn't really "against love." It was extremely pro romantic love - and lust. It should've been titled "Against Monogamy." Still, there are plenty of good points to be made on that topic, and the author did it pretty well, although the overall result reads a bit selfish and immature. It should be noted, however, that she also forewarned the reader about her aims in writing a polemic, saying it's nec...more
Yikes! Parts of this were funny, parts were horrifying, and some parts were an equal mixture of cringe-inducing-giggles.
In one funny section, the author writes "a brief sample of answers to the simple question: 'What can't you do because you're in a couple?'...
You can't leave the house without saying where you're going...You can't not say what time you'll return...You can't go out when the other person feels like staying home...You can't be a slob...You can't leave your (pick one) books, tissue...more
In one funny section, the author writes "a brief sample of answers to the simple question: 'What can't you do because you're in a couple?'...
You can't leave the house without saying where you're going...You can't not say what time you'll return...You can't go out when the other person feels like staying home...You can't be a slob...You can't leave your (pick one) books, tissue...more
I remember all the buzz about this book. Groups were meeting to discuss it. I sought it out second hand and it's been sitting on my shelf for years. Finally, it was time. Many things I like in this book. But it is now already outdated with the additional political scandals from the ones in the Clinton years she talks about. The book gets at lots of truth about our society, about relationships, marriage, politics, why sex is a focus on our political scene, and she is smart. I loved the ending, so...more
I only read one chapter of this book. It was a very spirited critique of “the confines of coupled life” T. C. sent it to me--a photocopy of the chapter, about 12 pages, front and back. I was happy to receive this, I had started reading it from the book when I was visiting T.C., but we did not get to finish it.
The essay is not too deep but entertaining enough. It is some one with a lot of education and a vagina admitting that being in a couple is sometimes (well, according to her, a permanent) dr
...more
Kipnis' book is a funny, smart bit of criticism about one of the major engines of modern American society - romantic love. She uses political philosophy, psychoanalytic theory and social criticism to look at the ways concepts of romantic love interact with political economy, how coupledom replicates the nation-state, sometimes with totalitarian results, how romantic love as we know it is really a modern construct, and the intersection of the Puritan work ethic with relationship self-help pop psy...more
Reasons why this book is disappointing:
1. Kipnis’ arch, ironic tone begins to wear thin about halfway through the first chapter. It might work for an article, but it’s far too precious to be tolerable for an entire book.
2. Kipnis isn’t really against love—she’s just against marriage. She’s actually very much in favor of the disruptive force of adulterous love.
3. The book is essentially the same argument presented over and over (marriage is boring and its primary purposes have more to do with...more
1. Kipnis’ arch, ironic tone begins to wear thin about halfway through the first chapter. It might work for an article, but it’s far too precious to be tolerable for an entire book.
2. Kipnis isn’t really against love—she’s just against marriage. She’s actually very much in favor of the disruptive force of adulterous love.
3. The book is essentially the same argument presented over and over (marriage is boring and its primary purposes have more to do with...more
"We are about to enter the hidden linguistic universe of companionate couples, which as we will shortly see, rests entirely on one generative phrase: 'Would you please stop doing that.'"
Mmmmmm . . . as dark and bitter as a 70 percent cacao bar. I wouldn't want to consume a steady diet of this, but I enjoyed Kipnis's point of view. After all, if society insists so overwhelmingly that love is great and good and the whole point of living, then somebody needs to play devil's advocate. If you have ev...more
Mmmmmm . . . as dark and bitter as a 70 percent cacao bar. I wouldn't want to consume a steady diet of this, but I enjoyed Kipnis's point of view. After all, if society insists so overwhelmingly that love is great and good and the whole point of living, then somebody needs to play devil's advocate. If you have ev...more
So much unfulfilled potential. I do like the snark, and this book is at its best when showing just exactly how absurd marriage, love and even coupledom are in this society when viewed through a lense of common sense and logic: "Or as marriage reformer Paul Brown put it in the 1830s, scoffing at the idea that anyone could genuinely guarantee marital fidelity for life: 'Now if any person were to make so rash a bargain about any other sort of transaction, our laws would rate him non compos mentis a...more
Five stars is probably too much for this; in truth it's at three and a half stars. But for me, this book had an impact that can't be denied: I discovered this book whilst taking a Marxist politics course in my first year of uni. I was distinctly unimpressed by the Marxist politics, but this book managed to perfectly state my uneasy feelings about the complacency so many of my friends and colleagues had toward the idea of love and marriage as an unshakable moral code.
Kipnis frankly states that sh...more
Kipnis frankly states that sh...more
In so wanting this book to be great, I may have set myself up for disappointment. But as I decided about half-way through, there is decidedly too much snark. I am probably not the ideal audience in that I already agree with her *basic* tenant that the modern conceptualization of romantic love/marriage is unrealistic and unsustainable, and that adultery is a symptom of this, but rather than building an argument she just gives any counter-argument shit. It's at minimum lazy and at worst insulting...more
Kipnis seems to misunderstand her own argument. Despite the book's title, it isn't a polemic against love, at all: it's a screed against hypocrisy. In exasperated prose, Kipnis lists the moral vexations that we moderns have brought upon ourselves by clinging imaginatively to Puritanical sexual mores while enacting rather more libertine ones in our everyday lives. Kipnis wants to argue that monogamy is a concept left over from a different time and that we should just admit that our social values...more
I couldn't concentrate for all the parentheses this woman used in writing her polemic against love. While her ideas are interesting, and I am inclined to agree with her, the arguments presented are disjointed and not really connected from chapter to chapter. Hard to follow.
But, I did manage to follow Kipnis' main point, which I boiled down thusly in my own words: are acting like an "adult" and acting on the impulses of your body, mind, and soul mutually exclusive? Why is morality inexorably tie...more
But, I did manage to follow Kipnis' main point, which I boiled down thusly in my own words: are acting like an "adult" and acting on the impulses of your body, mind, and soul mutually exclusive? Why is morality inexorably tie...more
Not for the starry-eyed or the faint of heart. Laura Kipnis plays devil's advocate while scrutinizing adultery (and marriage). Her political references are dated (There are many newer scandals, and Newt Gingrich, who makes Kipnis' Hall of Fame of hypocritical cheats, still has a pulse in the race for the White House.) But Kipnis also hits some big targets with her observations about marriage and industry and the state's interest in preserving monogamy. (She neglects mainstream religion's role, h...more
The Gulag Archipelago has nothing on love, according to Laura Kipnis. With intelligent wit and hilariously dry humor, the author makes the provocative case that our most cherished emotion is nothing but the worst sort of self-imposed prison.
Readers will encounter shocking (and hard to refute) lines such as
In a commodity culture [love] conforms to the role of a cheap commodity, spit out at the end of the assembly line in cookie-cutter forms, marketed to the bored and alienated producer-consumer...more
Readers will encounter shocking (and hard to refute) lines such as
In a commodity culture [love] conforms to the role of a cheap commodity, spit out at the end of the assembly line in cookie-cutter forms, marketed to the bored and alienated producer-consumer...more
About a year ago I decided that perhaps I should educate myself about this ephemeral concept of romantic love. Not so difficult, as one of my favorite authors, bell hooks, writes extensively on the subject. But of course there was that one book that seemed so absurd I had to go for it. Against Love: A Polemic. Really, could Kipnis pull it off?? And if she managed to convince me of the idea that adulterers are in fact "freedom fighters" (as one review put it) what would that say about me? Well, f...more
Alright, Laura. Here's the skinny. Your book caused a bit of an uproar when it came out, because your whole angle is anti-everything this country and its romantic populace stand for. You make a convincing argument that lifelong exclusive coupledom is for the birds (swans, specifically), and that we humans have a lousy track record at it. Thing is, the current divorce rate and latest news update on a Republican family values guy make the same point, in far fewer pages.
I guess this book would be a...more
I guess this book would be a...more
Sometimes Laura Kipnis says things in this book that make you smack your head and say, "by god! somebody gets it." But there are also points in it where it seems unbearably repetitive. Mad props for the parts where she: questions why gay people are even buying into the idea of marriage; thinks that Capital by Marx should be used as the modern day marriage manual; and quips about feminism leveling the amount of submission we all have to take. Most people say that a big reason to read this book is...more
What “Against Love” is not: a work of sociology, a scientific exploration of marriage, an indictment of every marriage/partnership in the U.S. (especially your marriage), a work in which the author believes every word she says. It’s right there on the cover (“a polemic”), in the Reader Advisory, and in the last few pages: “[Polemics:] overstate the case…Polemics aren’t necessarily unconflicted (nor are the polemiscists); rhetoric and sentiment aren’t always identical twins. Thus, please read on...more
Nov 29, 2008
Ciara
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
the recently dumped, spinsters, confirmed bachelors, bad dates
i read this book right after i read all about love by bell hooks. i wonder if it would have been possible for me to read two more contrasting books. billed as a pelimic, this book takes a very uncompromising stand against love, as it exists in its current incarnation as the force that compels people to enter into traditional heterosexual monogamous marriage units. kipnis draws a lot of parallels between love & capitalism in order to illustrate the evils of both. it's kind of a little bit an...more
This is a witty, surprisingly political book. It doesn't make balanced arguments but throws everything it has against love, sometimes individual points might contradict. The book isn't trying to be fair though, it's a long rant against the institution of monogamous domestic coupledom. It's best read by those who have been in monogamous domestic couples, particularly if there was cheating involved. It's funny, smart text that is a very fast read.
I shouldn't have read this book directly after rea...more
I shouldn't have read this book directly after rea...more
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