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These Dreams of You
One November night in a canyon outside L.A., Zan Nordhoc-a failed novelist turned pirate radio DJ-sits before the television with his small, adopted black daughter, watching the election of his country's first black president. In the nova of this historic moment, with an economic recession threatening their home, Zan, his wife and their son set out to solve the enigma of t...more
Paperback, 309 pages
Published
2012
by Europa Editions
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post-read: Ooh boy, Steve Erickson is so superb. This was really different than I expected (read: really different from
Zeroville
); it was hyper-realistic, not at all stylized, with really normal, messy characters grappling with kind of huge issues—race, adoption, debt, historical precedent, what it means to be American, stuff like that. But then it was also somehow in pieces and a little bit twistily meta—our main character is also a writer, who is kind of writing a story that has things that...more
It’s a rhythm and blues from the future that’s spiraled round the sphere of time to come back up through its birth canal.
Before I could react, a hood thrown over my head, my person shoved from behind into a waiting ghost van peeling a smokescreen so thick no two witnesses report seeing the same thing. Coming to, dazed on the cusp of a deep canyon near an abandoned bridge spanning a thin blue thread nestled below, the only thought I can muster to wonder aloud: all this from reading a book?
Standin...more
Before I could react, a hood thrown over my head, my person shoved from behind into a waiting ghost van peeling a smokescreen so thick no two witnesses report seeing the same thing. Coming to, dazed on the cusp of a deep canyon near an abandoned bridge spanning a thin blue thread nestled below, the only thought I can muster to wonder aloud: all this from reading a book?
Standin...more
This review initially ran in the New York Journal of Books website. I reproduce it here:
“Here are we, one magical moment
Such is the stuff from where dreams are woven.”
—David Bowie
On a Tuesday evening in November 2008, Alexander “Zan” Nordhoc sits in a rocking chair with his adopted Ethiopian daughter Sheba, watching his country elect its first black president. On the television, thousands of people celebrate in the same Chicago park where 40 years before thousands of people rioted.
In Los Angeles...more
“Here are we, one magical moment
Such is the stuff from where dreams are woven.”
—David Bowie
On a Tuesday evening in November 2008, Alexander “Zan” Nordhoc sits in a rocking chair with his adopted Ethiopian daughter Sheba, watching his country elect its first black president. On the television, thousands of people celebrate in the same Chicago park where 40 years before thousands of people rioted.
In Los Angeles...more
What do Bobby Kennedy, David Bowie, James Joyce's Molly Bloom, President Obama, and MatthewMarkLuke&John have in common? Outside of this book, probably not much.
If you had an acid-head friend with attention deficit who was also a gifted raconteur, his stories might come to you in this sort of fever-dream fashion. A little time travel, a few riffs and rants on politics, plagiarism, coincidence, race, religion, literature. A little incoherent rambling. And every once in awhile a shining jewel...more
If you had an acid-head friend with attention deficit who was also a gifted raconteur, his stories might come to you in this sort of fever-dream fashion. A little time travel, a few riffs and rants on politics, plagiarism, coincidence, race, religion, literature. A little incoherent rambling. And every once in awhile a shining jewel...more
A typical family novel These Dreams of You is Not. It's more like a turbocharged, falling apart, break down, can-the-family-get-back-together-again kind of story. Or looking at it from another angle: can America get back together again?
My favorite quote:
"This is the occupational hazard of being of my country, the way one's identity becomes bound up with a landscape that manifests in its soil and psychitecture an idea, with a people still fighting over who they are because when nothing else is he...more
My favorite quote:
"This is the occupational hazard of being of my country, the way one's identity becomes bound up with a landscape that manifests in its soil and psychitecture an idea, with a people still fighting over who they are because when nothing else is he...more
Erickson writes postmodern, genre-spanning novels influenced by pop culture and literary heroes like Thomas Pynchon, Don Delillo and J.G. Ballard. His recent novels seem to bear more relation to mix tapes than anything else, and These Dreams of You is no exception, with music playing an especially important role. In addition to the title quote from a Van Morrison song, Sam Cooke’s A Change is Gonna Come plays an important role and David Bowie, Iggy Pop, and Reg Presley (from the Troggs) show up...more
Roughly 70 pages into the novel These Dreams of You by Steve Erickson I was ready to boldly proclaim it the best book of 2012. It had much of what I so frequently look for in a novel–believable characters, social commentary, a suspenseful plot, and touches of avant-gard aesthetics that don’t bog down the whole. By the end of the book, I wasn’t so sure it was still the best of the year–due in part to occasional middling portions, but also due to the upcoming releases by Martin Amis, Michael Chabo...more
Mar 04, 2012
Thorn MotherIssues
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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This is an innovative, experimental novel and I gave myself over to the form completely but I'm still a little unsure about the content. I may well reread and up my number to a five, but it took me so long ot get into it and it was so hard to attach to any character that I'm not sure.... I definitely understand why so many readers are frustrated by present-tense narration these days.
As far as adoption content, the main character, Zan, a frustrated maybe-ex-novelist, and his underemployed artist...more
As far as adoption content, the main character, Zan, a frustrated maybe-ex-novelist, and his underemployed artist...more
I have always been a big fan of Steve Erickson's writing but I find his latest book underwhelming to say the least. As always with Erickson this is an easy read, taking you along at high speed through the pages. But the content of the writing is less rewarding to me than in his previous novels. Where his prose used to be delightfully weird and forceful, in this novel at times it is downright mushy ("and there against the light of the outer hall are two silhouettes that need no light other than t...more
frustrating! the writing is often gorgeous, the plot is swirling and complex, and the book... largely annoying. on paper everything seems like it should be right down my alley, enough so that i keep returning despite continuing frustration. here are the problems i've had with erickson here and before - he builds small novels out of big stories, where everything winds together too close, too narrow; he draws in history and historical characters but the never feel more than a little bit human; his...more
Steve Erickson is the reason I wanted to go to Kansas. He's the only reason I'd like to visit L.A. He's part of the reason I want to visit Berlin, and now he has made me want to go to Addis Ababa. But only if those places are the alternate versions that appear in his novels (yes, with violent muggings and all).
For me, there's the canon of Erickson that is pre-me-knowing-it-existed, and then there's the post-me-knowing-he-existed publications. I feel like the latter are more grounded in real wor...more
For me, there's the canon of Erickson that is pre-me-knowing-it-existed, and then there's the post-me-knowing-he-existed publications. I feel like the latter are more grounded in real wor...more
I had just finished The Elegance of the Hedgehog when I saw Steve Erickson’s Zeroville on the shelf at Barnes and Noble. I took a chance on the novel, on the Europa logo alone. It has been a few years, but I remember enjoying Zeroville except for the fact that my knowledge of early cinema and Hollywood stars was slightly less than up to par. With that as background, I approached “These Dreams of You” cautiously, hoping that the author gave me a few more recognizable signposts and that he managed...more
I picked this up from one of the "New Books" stands at the public library and borrowed it on the strength of the blurb from Pynchon on the back and in spite of the American flag on the cover. Erickson writes the whole novel in a series of paragraph-bursts, much shorter than chapters, which seemed to be a clever way of trying to make the sometimes dense and difficult more palatable and engaging. The story is told in a sort of circular and self-referential way that was enjoyable and not pretentiou...more
I picked this off the library shelf because of its cover, and as soon as I started reading, I was hooked. I'd never heard of the author, but then I discovered via goodreads that he has a devoted following. And I can see why. The writing is lyrical and intense. The plotting is intricate. The style unique. The parents of a 12-year-old boy adopt a girl from Ethiopia. As the family slides into financial ruin, the mother becomes obsessed with finding the girl's birth mother. So off she goes to Addis...more
This book's premise is indeed suspenseful, but the execution is not particularly successful. I skipped ahead in order to find out what happened after the main character, Zan, leaves his four-year-old daughter who goes missing in London with her mysterious nanny, in order to track down his wife Viv, who's absconded to Ethiopia to search for the daughter's birth mother. Viv and Zan's 12-year-old son finds a photo online of Viv in front of a Berlin landmark, so Zan and his son inexplicably go to Ge...more
A wonderful book! A family of three living in LA adopts a girl of 2 years from Ethiopia. The wife wants to find the birth mother and returns to Ethiopia to find her. Her husband and son go to London where the father has a speaking engagement, to wait for the wife. That's what is behind this web of a novel of repeating actions from the past and present. There's an amazing part about RFKs run for the president and his assassination, a repetition of his brother's earlier murder. And MLK's murder mo...more
I gave this book four stars as it was very, very well-written and extremely clever, especially the metacommentary that weaves through the book, and the book within the book. I enjoyed the way the author's characters affected both the personalities of the novelist as a character's creations and how that in turn seamlessly changed the arc of the story line. The book is like a political love letter to America. However, the very last line of the book was just too neat for me, as if the author prepla...more
For most of this book I alternated between awed admiration for the
author's skill with words and a desire to pick up his main character
by the collar and shake him. Zan Nordhoc, a "former" novelist and his
wife Viv have adopted a young girl from Ethiopia. While they sink
deeper and deeper into debt and closer and closer to having their home
foreclosed on, Viv becomes obsessed with trying to find out something
about the little girl's birth mother. This prompts a poorly planned
trip to Ethiopia for Viv,...more
author's skill with words and a desire to pick up his main character
by the collar and shake him. Zan Nordhoc, a "former" novelist and his
wife Viv have adopted a young girl from Ethiopia. While they sink
deeper and deeper into debt and closer and closer to having their home
foreclosed on, Viv becomes obsessed with trying to find out something
about the little girl's birth mother. This prompts a poorly planned
trip to Ethiopia for Viv,...more
These Dreams of You might be receiving high marks for the writing style of author Steve Erickson but I found this particular book to be annoying at different times because it was difficult to determine which one of the characters that particular segment of the story was attached to.
It is an unusual story and it is raw energy and emotion throughout the story. I think that Erickson raises some interesting points regarding America's cultural and political attitudes within the story. I will have to...more
It is an unusual story and it is raw energy and emotion throughout the story. I think that Erickson raises some interesting points regarding America's cultural and political attitudes within the story. I will have to...more
I have never encountered a novel like this one. The story is told smoothly and seamlessly even though the short paragraphs are broken up by large amounts of white space. I don't even notice the segues between subjects because of the brevity of the writing.
I ended up having to skim through the second half of this book because the sci-fi aspects, which I was not expecting, became so unnerving. I'm sure it's wonderful for readers who relate to this genre, but I simply found it too unsettling with...more
I ended up having to skim through the second half of this book because the sci-fi aspects, which I was not expecting, became so unnerving. I'm sure it's wonderful for readers who relate to this genre, but I simply found it too unsettling with...more
[Disclaimer: I received this book as a Goodreads giveaway.]
Wow. Just wow. I seriously want to pick up more of Mr. Erickson's works now. Are they all this intriguing? There were times I had to stop, reread a passage, and savor it before continuing. It was some of the best fiction I've read in some time.
The formatting of this novel threw me off at first. There are no defined chapters. It's very stream-of-consciousness. You would think this would make it easier to find a stopping point if you have...more
Wow. Just wow. I seriously want to pick up more of Mr. Erickson's works now. Are they all this intriguing? There were times I had to stop, reread a passage, and savor it before continuing. It was some of the best fiction I've read in some time.
The formatting of this novel threw me off at first. There are no defined chapters. It's very stream-of-consciousness. You would think this would make it easier to find a stopping point if you have...more
Each of Steve Erickson's books is a dream. Not as in "wonderful, riding unicorns on rainbows superfun enjoyment" (although they also fit that description sometimes, too), but as in they contain their own inner logic, and shift perspectives and settings so smoothly you constantly have to adjust your bearings. "Wait, what year is it now? And who's speaking? Is that her mother?" The first time I read one of his books I got caught up in it. Now, I just try to keep up with the flow. And These Dreams...more
Ugh. Another Erickson novel that begins brilliantly, moves fluidly, has that great page-turning suspense, and then falls apart in the end amid a slew of lame 'trippy coincidences' that we all saw coming a mile away, a weak conclusion, and lame cosmic platitudes. The last 1/4 of the book drags it down from a solid 4/5 into 3/5, in the same damn way as Arc D'X, and with some of the exact lame platitudes, as if Erickson becomes afraid at the end of his books that his reader could not follow his fai...more
Filled with historical allusions and some beautiful passages, this book is a stream of consciousness that feels very present with our society today. I came to appreciate the text more after getting to discuss it with some friends, and would now consider it a solid piece of American prose. Read it if you have an interest in precocious children, politics, David Bowie, travel, and a high-speed car chase. Yup, it's everywhere...
This is going directly onto my to-be-read-again-as-soon-as-I-can-find-the-time queue. I enjoyed it tremendously (especially once the out-of-left-field Robert Kennedy/David Bowie/Iggy Pop subplots started to make sense), but I ruptured a disc in my back about halfway through the reading of this book, so I read the rest of it in febrile sessions at 4 am trying desperately to pretend I wasn't in a ton of pain and silently praying for a god I never believed in to just fuckin' take me now.
These Dreams of You is the first Steve Erickson book I have read. I am not sure I have ever read a book quite like this. Is it crazy, political, a screed, or just unusual (in the very best way). The feeling of the late 1960's in California canyons, to losing houses, crazy travels to London, Berlin and Ethiopia and the first black president has just been elected. Looking forward to reading Zeroville
I found this book annoying, with forced edges that were dull, adding RFK and everyone meeting everyone in a giant manufactured wacky spider web of chance. So many parts felt forced and others just overdone. The historical and present day people were shown in shallow perspectives that belittled them. I do not recommend it.
I thought this was incredibly evocative of the complex emotions inherent in the nuclear family, as well as the more specific experiences of the recent economic downturn on those in the previously-secure middle class. There were a lot of ridiculous coincidences, but, somehow, they all seemed to work.
I agree with those who think the book is well written but frustrating. Frustrating because the characters, though often human, are also often symbols and metaphors for the diverse and crazy political and cultural ship that is the United States. All of that ought to work, but somehow it doesn't work for me.
I was really disappointed in this.
It started out well, and, in general, I love Erickson's style. I especially find his weaving of history-as-we-know-it and "possible history" really engaging.
But the more he wrote this time, the more bombastic and arcane his prose grew and it was torment to finish it.
It started out well, and, in general, I love Erickson's style. I especially find his weaving of history-as-we-know-it and "possible history" really engaging.
But the more he wrote this time, the more bombastic and arcane his prose grew and it was torment to finish it.
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Stuttered as a child, a motif which often appears in his writing.
Began writing stories at age seven. Began publishing as a teen. Wrote first novel at seventeen.
Studied film and journalism at UCLA.
Received Guggenheim Fellowship in 2007.
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Began writing stories at age seven. Began publishing as a teen. Wrote first novel at seventeen.
Studied film and journalism at UCLA.
Received Guggenheim Fellowship in 2007.
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Jun 12, 2012 07:29am
I haven't seen Zeroville...must go look.
Jun 12, 2012 07:48am