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These Dreams of You

3.89  ·  Rating Details ·  436 Ratings  ·  84 Reviews
One November night in a canyon outside L.A., Zan Nordhoc-a failed novelist turned pirate radio DJ-sits before the television with his small, adopted black daughter, watching the election of his country's first black president. In the nova of this historic moment, with an economic recession threatening their home, Zan, his wife and their son set out to solve the enigma of ...more
Paperback, 309 pages
Published 2012 by Europa Editions
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tim
Apr 05, 2012 tim rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: agnostic patriots
It’s a rhythm and blues from the future that’s spiraled round the sphere of time to come back up through its birth canal.

Before I could react, a hood thrown over my head, my person shoved from behind into a waiting ghost van peeling a smokescreen so thick no two witnesses report seeing the same thing. Coming to, dazed on the cusp of a deep canyon near an abandoned bridge spanning a thin blue thread nestled below, the only thought I can muster to wonder aloud: all this from reading a book?

Standin
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Jeanette  "Astute Crabbist"
What do Bobby Kennedy, David Bowie, James Joyce's Molly Bloom, President Obama, and MatthewMarkLuke&John have in common? Outside of this book, probably not much.
If you had an acid-head friend with attention deficit who was also a gifted raconteur, his stories might come to you in this sort of fever-dream fashion. A little time travel, a few riffs and rants on politics, plagiarism, coincidence, race, religion, literature. A little incoherent rambling. And every once in awhile a shining jewel
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Suzanne
Sep 19, 2014 Suzanne rated it it was amazing
I’ve long been a fan of Steve Erickson’s film criticism and my first foray into his novels did not disappoint. I loved Zeroville, which I read a couple of months ago, which didn’t really surprise me, although the intensity of the whole experience was more than I’d hoped for. But this. This! These Dreams of You pushed so many of my particular buttons all at once, it’s wonder I didn’t have a stroke. Part of the appeal was personal, but the quality of the work more objectively (if there is such a ...more
Oriana
Jul 02, 2012 Oriana rated it really liked it
Shelves: read-2012
post-read: Ooh boy, Steve Erickson is so superb. This was really different than I expected (read: really different from Zeroville ); it was hyper-realistic, not at all stylized, with really normal, messy characters grappling with kind of huge issues—race, adoption, debt, historical precedent, what it means to be American, stuff like that. But then it was also somehow in pieces and a little bit twistily meta—our main character is also a writer, who is kind of writing a story that has things that ...more
Michael
May 06, 2012 Michael rated it it was amazing
This review initially ran in the New York Journal of Books website. I reproduce it here:

“Here are we, one magical moment
Such is the stuff from where dreams are woven.”
—David Bowie

On a Tuesday evening in November 2008, Alexander “Zan” Nordhoc sits in a rocking chair with his adopted Ethiopian daughter Sheba, watching his country elect its first black president. On the television, thousands of people celebrate in the same Chicago park where 40 years before thousands of people rioted.

In Los Angeles
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Corey Pung
Aug 08, 2012 Corey Pung rated it it was amazing
Roughly 70 pages into the novel These Dreams of You by Steve Erickson I was ready to boldly proclaim it the best book of 2012. It had much of what I so frequently look for in a novel–believable characters, social commentary, a suspenseful plot, and touches of avant-gard aesthetics that don’t bog down the whole. By the end of the book, I wasn’t so sure it was still the best of the year–due in part to occasional middling portions, but also due to the upcoming releases by Martin Amis, Michael ...more
P.
Mar 20, 2012 P. added it
Shelves: fictive, speculative
Steve Erickson is the reason I wanted to go to Kansas. He's the only reason I'd like to visit L.A. He's part of the reason I want to visit Berlin, and now he has made me want to go to Addis Ababa. But only if those places are the alternate versions that appear in his novels (yes, with violent muggings and all).

For me, there's the canon of Erickson that is pre-me-knowing-it-existed, and then there's the post-me-knowing-he-existed publications. I feel like the latter are more grounded in real wor
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Jon
Feb 26, 2012 Jon rated it it was amazing
A typical family novel These Dreams of You is Not. It's more like a turbocharged, falling apart, break down, can-the-family-get-back-together-again kind of story. Or looking at it from another angle: can America get back together again?

My favorite quote:

"This is the occupational hazard of being of my country, the way one's identity becomes bound up with a landscape that manifests in its soil and psychitecture an idea, with a people still fighting over who they are because when nothing else is he
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Mark
Mar 17, 2012 Mark rated it liked it
frustrating! the writing is often gorgeous, the plot is swirling and complex, and the book... largely annoying. on paper everything seems like it should be right down my alley, enough so that i keep returning despite continuing frustration. here are the problems i've had with erickson here and before - he builds small novels out of big stories, where everything winds together too close, too narrow; he draws in history and historical characters but the never feel more than a little bit human; his ...more
Michael Seidlinger
Feb 02, 2012 Michael Seidlinger rated it liked it
However way you look at it, this is an excellent novel. It's biggest issue lies in the fact that it's not what I expected from Erickson.

It's Erickson on meandering cruise-control.
The ingredients are high-quality and parts of the book resemble the genius that is Steve Erickson but in the end it's one of his lesser novels. It's no Zeroville, Sea Came in at Midnight, or Days Between Stations.

I believe this is best framed under the concept of a journal/meditation of the condition of modern day Ame
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Josh
Mar 05, 2012 Josh rated it it was amazing
Shelves: europa-editions
I had just finished The Elegance of the Hedgehog when I saw Steve Erickson’s Zeroville on the shelf at Barnes and Noble. I took a chance on the novel, on the Europa logo alone. It has been a few years, but I remember enjoying Zeroville except for the fact that my knowledge of early cinema and Hollywood stars was slightly less than up to par. With that as background, I approached “These Dreams of You” cautiously, hoping that the author gave me a few more recognizable signposts and that he managed ...more
Whitney
Oct 02, 2016 Whitney rated it it was amazing
This guy is amazing. And, so luckily, I feel like we enjoy/care about all the same things. This one is full of exciting political and musical cameos that I couldn't believe meshed as well as they did. It's an ambitious novel and it might not completely live up to its ambition, but that's what makes it so interesting.
Jen
Mar 22, 2013 Jen rated it it was amazing
[Disclaimer: I received this book as a Goodreads giveaway.]

Wow. Just wow. I seriously want to pick up more of Mr. Erickson's works now. Are they all this intriguing? There were times I had to stop, reread a passage, and savor it before continuing. It was some of the best fiction I've read in some time.

The formatting of this novel threw me off at first. There are no defined chapters. It's very stream-of-consciousness. You would think this would make it easier to find a stopping point if you have
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Peter Van
Feb 12, 2013 Peter Van rated it it was ok
I have always been a big fan of Steve Erickson's writing but I find his latest book underwhelming to say the least. As always with Erickson this is an easy read, taking you along at high speed through the pages. But the content of the writing is less rewarding to me than in his previous novels. Where his prose used to be delightfully weird and forceful, in this novel at times it is downright mushy ("and there against the light of the outer hall are two silhouettes that need no light other than ...more
Lindsay
Aug 22, 2013 Lindsay rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 10-star-reads
This novel has ruined all the books I've tried to read following the last word on the last page of These Dreams of You.
It's been two months since I've finished it and I still can't get it out of my mind. I must think about this book, the characters, the themes, the emotions about once a day, which is remarkable. I cannot think of another novel that has gripped me so vehemently in the last decade of reading.
I typically do not read any reviews, plot overviews, or cover praise plastered on or wit
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Emily
Aug 26, 2013 Emily rated it really liked it
I really liked Zeroville - so much so that I feel that I was constantly judging These Dreams of You by the the high precedent that Zeroville set for me a Erickson books. This has so much potential, and the narrative style that I so enjoy from Erickson's work, but the end really fell apart for me. So many interesting things were going on right up until the last few sections, and then the end felt just felt flat to me. Really, this should probably be a 3.5, but I feel that even though it wasn't as ...more
Jeff Tucker
Oct 02, 2014 Jeff Tucker rated it really liked it
This is a simple story, written in elegant and elaborate prose. It’s loaded with introspection and analysis. I was struck by the fact that every character in the book was so compelling that an entire book could be written about any one of them. The story moved along at a pace that was perfect for me. As a baby boomer I could identify with every theme, the civil rights movement in the 1960’s, politics of the 60’s and the 2000’s, music and musicians, the housing bubble and recession of the 2000’s, ...more
Yasmeen
Jun 08, 2014 Yasmeen rated it it was amazing
Shelves: pure-brilliance
"Sometimes life calls for a catalytic instant." I needed one, and I got it.

For the first half, I felt like I was having cobwebs wrapped around my brain. Although I was enjoying it and was absorbed by the writing, I didn't think would go past four stars. Then at some point, I started to notice that the cobwebs intersected in strange places, that they weren't just round my brain anymore but everywhere else as well, that they left burning scratches in the places where they came together, and that t
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Eric Obenauf
Mar 12, 2012 Eric Obenauf rated it it was amazing
You know how people say things like 'that book or film perfectly captured [insert era]' ? I feel like years from now we'll point to These Dreams of You as an example of how things really were here and now. Presents all the splintery confusion over our national identity in an exceptionally intelligent manner.
Steve
Feb 10, 2012 Steve rated it really liked it
Shelves: novels
Steve Erickson interview (2/2/2012) on KCRW's Bookworm:
http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/bw/b...

Erickson's "Book Notes" music playlist for These Dreams of You:
http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/a...


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Scott Wilson
Jun 04, 2013 Scott Wilson rated it really liked it
Four and a half stars, if that were possible. It's definitely great, definitely imperfect, and those things are definitely connected.
Erik Wyse
Oct 25, 2016 Erik Wyse rated it really liked it
Erickson's work merits praise for the uniqueness of it's style and vision. Of particular interest here is how he, through the voice of the character (and novelist) Zan questions the writer's place to construct characters of other races and ethnicities. The worry of course being that the character will merely act as mouthpiece or ill-conceived projection, awkward and untrue.

John Addiego
Oct 21, 2016 John Addiego rated it really liked it
Shelves: literary
There were moments in this book that were very moving. A big topic (black/white relations) and an unusual narrative (no separate chapters, back and forth chronology), a likable protagonist and family, but I found myself wishing he'd been a bit more straightforward, less rambling, maybe less clever at times. Some coincidences fell flat for me. However, an obviously talented and brave writer. In the end, it's unique and worthwhile.
James Oliver
Feb 04, 2015 James Oliver rated it it was amazing
After great struggle with indifferent people and long holds, our router has been replaced. Our wi-fi signal is now stronger than one bar and, even better, the replacement is meant to handle a large amount of wireless devices... the very thing that apparently killed its ancient predecessor. I can watch anime again. I can stream music. I can stay connected longer than a minute at a time! I'd cheer, but I'm not into that sort of thing.

My craptastic internet connection played a large role in finishi
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Thorn MotherIssues
This is an innovative, experimental novel and I gave myself over to the form completely but I'm still a little unsure about the content. I may well reread and up my number to a five, but it took me so long ot get into it and it was so hard to attach to any character that I'm not sure.... I definitely understand why so many readers are frustrated by present-tense narration these days.

As far as adoption content, the main character, Zan, a frustrated maybe-ex-novelist, and his underemployed artist
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Mike Schwartz
Jan 16, 2013 Mike Schwartz rated it really liked it
Erickson writes postmodern, genre-spanning novels influenced by pop culture and literary heroes like Thomas Pynchon, Don Delillo and J.G. Ballard. His recent novels seem to bear more relation to mix tapes than anything else, and These Dreams of You is no exception, with music playing an especially important role. In addition to the title quote from a Van Morrison song, Sam Cooke’s A Change is Gonna Come plays an important role and David Bowie, Iggy Pop, and Reg Presley (from the Troggs) show up ...more
Claire McLoughlin
Aug 04, 2013 Claire McLoughlin rated it really liked it
"Zan has never been to Ethiopia but somehow this thing with the names seems typical of everything he knows about it. Ethiopia has an extra month of the year and as best Zan can understand, it's own clock, falling half an hour between the time zones of the world".

"We are all Ethiopians" Viv likes to say

"We opened today's show with Augustus Pablo's Chant to King Selassie followed by 'Teeta'- which means "memory"- by the Duke Ellington of Ethiojazz, Mulatu Astake, then Delroy Wilson's 'This Life Ma
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Eraserhead
Nov 30, 2012 Eraserhead rated it liked it
Ugh. Another Erickson novel that begins brilliantly, moves fluidly, has that great page-turning suspense, and then falls apart in the end amid a slew of lame 'trippy coincidences' that we all saw coming a mile away, a weak conclusion, and lame cosmic platitudes. The last 1/4 of the book drags it down from a solid 4/5 into 3/5, in the same damn way as Arc D'X, and with some of the exact lame platitudes, as if Erickson becomes afraid at the end of his books that his reader could not follow his ...more
Marvin
Mar 18, 2014 Marvin rated it liked it
Shelves: religion
This is an intriguing, mostly successful novel with a unique and highly appealing voice; I can't think of anyone I would compare this author to. It begins with a family watching the celebration of a historic election of an unnamed African American president. (This pattern of not naming the actual, recognizable figures continues; in a 30-page section on Bobby Kennedy, I was nearly halfway through the section before I realized who the unnamed character was.) Despite the political backdrop, the ...more
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Stuttered as a child, a motif which often appears in his writing.

Began writing stories at age seven. Began publishing as a teen. Wrote first novel at seventeen.

Studied film and journalism at UCLA.

Received Guggenheim Fellowship in 2007.

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