A Rising Thunder (Honor Harrington, #13)

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A Rising Thunder (Honor Harrington #13)

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Peril and strife strike on a double front for Honor Harrington and company. After a brutal attack on the Manticoran home system, Honor Harrington and the Star Kingdom she serves battle back against a new, technologically powerful, and utterly nefarious enemy. And as if that weren’t task enough, Honor must also face down a centuries-old nemesis in the crumbling, but still m...more

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Published March 6th 2012 by Baen (first published March 1st 2012)

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May 01, 2012 Mike Gottert rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: sf

Book number 13 in the Honor Harrington series and substantially shorter than the most recent volumes. Unfortunately, not much happens in this book, and much of that action that does take place, happens off camera with the reader only hearing about what happened and not actually witnessing the events. The title seems to indicate that it is a precursor to the next volume(s) but I cannot say that I am interested enough to continue. After 17 books, I’ve realized that I no longer like Harrington, I c...more

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Jan 04, 2013 Pctrollbreath rated it 2 of 5 stars

Not too sure what to say about this book. I got addicted to the Honor series a few years ago, and I do have a habit of keeping on reading a series once I have started, but sometimes you have to wonder why.

An appreciable percentage of this is devoted to different characters telling Honor how wonderful, honest, clever, morally superior, beautiful and above all how RIGHT she is about everything, and how stupid / genetically inferior anyone who opposes her is. Big yawns... When did the population of...more

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Aug 11, 2012 John rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: science-fiction

A Bridge To Bear Between the Manticoran Alliance and the Solarian League

“A Rising Thunder” reads like the unfinished prelude to the grand finale of the “Honor Harrington” saga; not surprisingly, it is the first half of a manuscript Weber has written already chronicling the war between the Solarian League and the Star Empire of Manticore and its allies. While this isn’t by far the best in the “Honor Harrington” series, it is not the worst, and is commendable to the extent in which Weber describes...more

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Jul 18, 2012 Jeff Hebert rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: sci-fi

I think I've finally reached my David Weber "People sit around talking and talking and talking until the part where stuff goes boom" limit. Nothing happens in this book that couldn't have happened in a tenth of the pages with a hundredth of the endless, droning, repetitive verbiage.

And the eyes -- my god, the eyes. They twinkle, they narrow, they offer insights into the soul with a crinkle, they're the goddamn full-wall windows into the soul.

All while nothing much really happens, and you'll nee...more

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May 21, 2012 Kathy Davie rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: military, sci-fi

Thirteenth in the Honor Harrington military science fiction series revolving around Honor Harrington and the strategies required to keep the Kingdom of Manticore free.

You may want to wait and read A Rising Thunder after the next installment is published in 2013...2013??!!…'cause it is just making me nutso cuckoo to have to wait for Shadow of Freedom and find out what happens next...the pins and needles are just killin' me!!

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May 17, 2012 Jim rated it 1 of 5 stars

13 books into the series and I'm done. The first several books are not too bad, if you can see beyond the main character who is the best there is at everything. At least the first few books have a somewhat tight character focus. The last several books in the series are nothing but conference room meetings with people we only know from other conference room meetings, with one utterly predictable set piece battle per book.

If you like "Space Opera" kind of stories you'll probably enjoy the first fe...more

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Mar 22, 2012 ***Dave Hill rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: text

On the positive side, I can always count on a new Weber Honorverse book to grab my attention and give me a few days of plain ol' popcorn-munching fun. I can also count in them making want to go back and reread the whole series.

Unfortunately, "A Rising Thunder" is more like the bottom half of the popcorn bowl -- cooled off, not as salty, still absently enjoyable but not as satisfying as you'd want it to be.

The Honorverse is space opera, straight up -- massive space battles interspersed with scene...more On the positive side, I can always count on a new Weber Honorverse book to grab my attention and give me a few days of plain ol' popcorn-munching fun. I can also count in them making want to go back and reread the whole series.

Unfortunately, "A Rising Thunder" is more like the bottom half of the popcorn bowl -- cooled off, not as salty, still absently enjoyable but not as satisfying as you'd want it to be.

The Honorverse is space opera, straight up -- massive space battles interspersed with scene-chewing melodrama. Over time, though, it's evolved as well into more sophisticated geopolitics (or astropolitics, if you will), the cast has ballooned into the hundreds (even if you discount the one-offs) and the space opera has become a bit more of a space pop song.

Much of ART is taken up with people talking. And then other people talking. And then still more people talking. And then people talking about what the other people may be talking about. And then something happens. And then we have people talking about what happened, other people talking about what happened, other people talking about other people talking about what happened, and still other people talking about what *really* happened, and how it relates to something that's going to happen next. About which people then talk.

In other word's it's a lot more "tell" than "show."

Weber has pulled this off in the past, and more successfully, but with more restraint. Over time, though, this sort of thing has become the norm -- in part because the scope of the series has gotten so broad (across multiple star empires and multiple factions, as well as the military grunts on the sharp end of the stick), in part because ... well, it comes across as maybe a bit *easier* for Weber to do.

Honor doesn't show up until about half-way through the book, and even then, with a couple of exceptions, she's mostly a set piece. But, then, there are very few characters in the book who really come across as serious characters, even for purposes of melodrama (and while some of that is present, even it's more talked about than shown). Mostly people show up, advance the story by telling what just happened or what they are going to do next, and then move on.

There are a couple of space conflicts of the sort reminiscent of the series' origins, as well as some high drama at a few points, and the underlying Evil Plot gets a very few nods ... but much of the book is just ... well, just a series of events, mostly talked about, and ending more or less abruptly to lead into whatever the heck is going to happen next time.

It's still decently chewable popcorn. But rather than making me want to go back and reread the series to enjoy more of it, it's making want to go back and do so to make me remember how it used to be.(less)

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Mar 19, 2012 Ted rated it 2 of 5 stars

I think David Weber has reached the breaking point. "A Rising Thunder" is continuing a trend that I find distasteful -- the stretching of a multi-book storyline to a point where the reader no longer cares. In my opinion this book should have been condensed to maybe three chapters and put at the beginning of his next Honorverse book -- one that I hope puts an end to the whole arc.

The earlier Honorverse books were always part of a larger story, but each was a fairly self-contained . . . chapter ....more I think David Weber has reached the breaking point. "A Rising Thunder" is continuing a trend that I find distasteful -- the stretching of a multi-book storyline to a point where the reader no longer cares. In my opinion this book should have been condensed to maybe three chapters and put at the beginning of his next Honorverse book -- one that I hope puts an end to the whole arc.

The earlier Honorverse books were always part of a larger story, but each was a fairly self-contained . . . chapter . . . for lack of a better word. Most of the recent books have been more footnotes that chapters. The pace slows, you start drowning in mundane details that really don't propel the story any serious degree and, worst of all, the characters become caricatures. If he had only taken one story line and expanded it to something interesting this book might have been worth the purchase price.

Since one of my concerns is that his Safehold series is showing the same sort of stretching -- I think I may have bought my last David Weber book. I might read the next Honorverse book if it shows up in the Baen Free Library, but I can't see myself shelling out money for what has become bloated. As the odds of something disappointing me go up, my inclination to buy it drops way down!

My wife refers to such books as page-turners -- only not in a good way. She skims pages to see if the story is actually progresses and stops and reads a bit. In the earlier Honorverse books she would read and enjoy every page. Now she skips, skims, and turns-pages with a speed that tells me she isn't finding much of interest.

Sorry David! This is disappointing. I did rate it as a 2, rather than a 1, but I think I did that more out of the fact that I did read and finish this book. Others haven't been so lucky. In this case I kept hoping for some gem of a storyline, and the hope faded as I saw the number of remaining pages dwindle down to nothing. As it is right this minute I have little interest for the next book. Lucky for me there are other books to read and enjoy.

It was a nice run David, but I think Honor and possibly Safehold have run their course. If it was an editor who convinced you to turn what should have been a trilogy into 6 or seven books . . . next time, don't listen. (less)

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Feb 07, 2012 Michael rated it 1 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Impatient Honorverse Junkies

David Weber continues to write the best space battles in the business. Unfortunately, every poor habit he has just keeps getting worse. He badly needs an editor, and we have yet another half-book. There are pages and pages of 'behind the scenes' plotting, very little of which is interesting, and very little meat. The plot then cuts out mid-book. Apparently there is a cross over novel (another in Eric Flint's Crown of Slaves series) which is supposed to take place in the middle of this novel's ti...more

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Jan 30, 2012 David Broussard rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: military, sci-fi

I was prepared to only slightly like this book because the prior ones have been lacking and this is in the primary story arc involving Honor. I was pleasantly surprised with this volume, although Mr Weber has fallen into a pattern with lots of background characters and with the main plot spanning multiple books. We spend a fair amount of this book waiting to hear from Victor Cachat and Anton Zilwiky and their adventures in Torch of Freedom. The results of the massive attack by the Mesan alignmen...more

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Jan 23, 2012 Steven rated it 4 of 5 stars

Read the ARC version in January 2012. I did see a small number of typos and miss-spellings. I am a long time Honor Harrington reader, so I've been reading the series since the beginning. Like other long time readers, I felt the stories later in the series are different. Honor is older and different. Weber the author has not frozen Honor chronologically, but has has her age. So it has made the stories different, because her position, role, physical fighting activities have all changed. I was feel...more

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Apr 15, 2013 C. Owen rated it 1 of 5 stars

Back in the 90's one of Weber's books featured a flip-movie of an exploding spaceship in the upper-right corner. That is all anyone needs to know about his books and his qualities as a writer. Weber is a hack, but once upon a time he was a mildly entertaining hack, at least if you like -- or can stand -- two-dimensional characters, predictable plots, flabby dialog, ridiculous villians straight from the Evil League of Evil, and assorted (and generally painful) silliness when he takes a break from...more

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Apr 04, 2012 Jesse rated it 2 of 5 stars

For some reason, I still find the central character, Honor Harrington, compelling, and keep reading these. What's bothersome, however, is that David Weber does not seem to know his own strengths, nor his weaknesses. He is among the best in the business in writing battle scenes, right alongside someone like Bernard Cornwell, for example. He is also interesting in his imaginings of future technologies and the tactical situations that result from them.

Unfortunately however, these talents are littl...more For some reason, I still find the central character, Honor Harrington, compelling, and keep reading these. What's bothersome, however, is that David Weber does not seem to know his own strengths, nor his weaknesses. He is among the best in the business in writing battle scenes, right alongside someone like Bernard Cornwell, for example. He is also interesting in his imaginings of future technologies and the tactical situations that result from them.

Unfortunately however, these talents are little in evidence. Of the two battle scenes in the book, one takes place in a simulator, and the other is such a lopsided mismatch of a slaughter, akin to what would have happened had Sir John Jellicoe and his fleet of armored battleships from the WWI Battle of Jutland traded places with Lord Nelson at Trafalgar and shot the Franco-Spanish wooden sailing ships to matchwood, that he doesn't even bother to describe it.

What a reader gets instead is all of Weber's weaknesses: we find political intrigue with the heroes being self congratulatory and self righteous, and the villains of the piece being gratuitously stupid. He seems to have taken the old saw about "Don't tell it if you can show it," too much to heart, using massive amounts of essentially useless dialogue in place of anything like concise summary. I don't mind dialogue, when it's good, but this isn't. The characters all sound alike, with the same clumsy wordiness. Also, he appears never to have heard of a subtext, as they all seem to sit around emoting all over the place, and pouring out their inmost thoughts with an abandon completely at odds with the reserve and detachment, the poker face, if you will, which is characteristic of persons in power.

In short, he seems to have lost sight completely of what made these books good to begin with. It's too bad, since he is so strong in some areas, and so weak in others, that he would choose to construct the story the way he has. There is a great deal of chaff, and very little wheat, here. (less)

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Mar 11, 2012 Jim rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: action, science-fiction

Another great addition to the series. A lot more time is spent in the Sol system on the politics there. Weber's points on how the bureaucracy is running the system are extreme, but too believable. The ghostly hand of Manpower is in evidence & very well done.

On the downside, there is a LOT of politics without nearly the action that made the earlier novels so enjoyable, so be warned. If the growing political complexity is turning you off, this one won't make you happy. I know it got to me the...more

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Nov 19, 2011 Matthew rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: military-sf, science-fiction

When I realized that the eARC for this had come out, I (figuratively) dashed out to get my copy. I devoured it rapidly, and now I have some thoughts.

1. I liked it just fine. It moved along at a good pace, and Weber paid off his promises fairly well (to keep your precious eyes from spoilers, I shan't say anything more specific). I don't think I would say that it's my favorite installment in the series*, but it's, at the very least, adequate.
2. For a book ostensibly about Honor Harrington, there w...more

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Apr 20, 2012 Julia Reed rated it 3 of 5 stars

Here is a soon to not be secret about me: I love space opera. More specifically, I love the Honor Harrington series by David Weber. I have since I was 13, and I've never been able to find a way to give it up. So when I heard that there was a new addition to the much beloved Honor saga, I couldn't wait to jump on it.

I was a little disappointed, to be honest. As I read from one Amazon reviewer, it's too much exposition and not enough action. You get a few good space battles, but there's a little...more

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Mar 14, 2012 Kathy Martin rated it 4 of 5 stars

If you like political intrigue and political maneuvering, this is the story for you. There is relatively little action of the space-ship battle sort in this episode of the Honor Harrington series and not very much of Honor either. This story takes us all around the universe but seems to concentrate on the actions of the handful of upper level bureaucrats who really run the Solarian League. I feel that Permanent Senior Undersecretary Kolokoltsov of the Solarian League, one of those bureaucrats, g...more If you like political intrigue and political maneuvering, this is the story for you. There is relatively little action of the space-ship battle sort in this episode of the Honor Harrington series and not very much of Honor either. This story takes us all around the universe but seems to concentrate on the actions of the handful of upper level bureaucrats who really run the Solarian League. I feel that Permanent Senior Undersecretary Kolokoltsov of the Solarian League, one of those bureaucrats, got the most "page-time" of any of the individual characters in this story.

The story concerns the growing and escalating conflict between Manticore and the Solarian League that has been fomented partially by the maneuvering of the Mesan Alliance and partially by the egocentric attitudes of the Solarian League. This story also cements the new alliance between long-time enemies Manticore and the Republic of Haven. A new alliance is forming that also includes Beowulf, a long-time League member who has close financial and person ties with Manticore. In fact, the Chairman of the Board of Directors (the governing body) is Honor's uncle.

Reading this one was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. All the various actions are leading to a fall for the Solarian League. As detail piles on detail the bureaucrats in charge are doing all they can to spin events their way and try to find something that will save their jobs and power and, incidentally, save the Solarian League. To throw in another metaphor, the bureaucrats are "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic."

There weren't a lot of things of a personal nature in this one. We could see the growing friendship between Empress Elizabeth of Manticore and Eloise Pritchart, the President of the Republic of Haven. We got to see a little of the relationship between Honor and her husband Hamish and wife Emily. We got to see Crown Prince Roger marry his commoner love Rifka in a combination Roman Catholic and Jewish ceremony! But most of the relationships were brief and political.

This is an episode for those who are very familiar with the Honorverse. Newcomers would be both baffled and bored with the constantly shifting scenes between people who come and go with great rapidity. Hopefully, this one is leading up to something with more excitement and more face time for Honor. It did have brief moments of humor and poignancy but they were almost buried by political maneuvering.

I rank this one "for devoted fans only."(less)

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Apr 19, 2012 Joe rated it 3 of 5 stars

I am a David Drake, Honor Harrington fan! So I grabbed this new release the minute it appeared. I'm only half-way through this now but it has been dissapointing. I'm at page 170 and I'm still waiting for the story to start. There's endless dialog between the various characters, page after page, but the shoe hasn't dropped yet. I expect there will be a cataclysmic space battle sometime soon. Hopefully it will be done in typical David Drake "I can't put it down until I see what happens" style. But...more

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Dec 08, 2012 Shane Moore rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: science-fiction

This series is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. Firstly, it takes itself much too seriously considering that it prominently features a species of psychic six-legged cat. Secondly, many of the heroes are cartoonishly heroic and good. The pacing is often glacial, and the cast is bloated by interchangeable supporting characters. I often find myself rolling my eyes as yet another villain chews the scenery like an overexcited beaver.

So why do I read it? This series features the most gripping and ex...more

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May 11, 2012 Jeffrey rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: read-in-2012, science-fiction, naval-fiction

A veritable snoozefest. Weber's pontificating style of long extended conversations between political leaders and military leaders knows no bounds. One has to employ the art of skipping huge swaths of the book to get to through it to the maybe makings of a good story. Except there really is no great story here. Its obvious that this book is solely designed to set the stage for more new books in this long series.

Weber needed to transition to a new enemy. This book is clearly a transitioning volume...more

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Apr 21, 2012 Michael Rutherford rated it 4 of 5 stars

Now I know that the Honor Harrington series has been going on for many years and I have been a loyal reader of that series.

I was really disappointed that Honor didn't appear until about a quarter of the way of the book, but once she did, she was still the Honor that I remember.

This series has gone from from of space battles to politics, at first I wasn't happy with that change, but if you think that Honor could stay a Captain in charge of a space ship you are definitely deluding yourself and hol...more

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Apr 01, 2012 Joe Martin rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: fiction, space-opera, science-fiction, webscriptions

This is the 13th book in David Weber’s Honor Harrington series. When the series started, back in 1992, it was pretty easy to follow. Sequel followed sequel and each book picked up where the last left off. More recently, in 2002, Weber approved the creation of two sub-series. The result is that the plotline and scope of the “Honorverse” expanded dramatically

The first sub-series was “The Wages of Sin”, starting with Crown of Slaves, which follows book #10, War of Honor. The second sub-series was

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Dec 01, 2011 Betsy rated it 4 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Honorverse fans

Shelves: fiction, future, honorverse, space, war-military

This is an ARC, e-book copy.

This book is a little unusual for Weber. No lengthy descriptions of technology or weaponry. No lengthy space battles; what confrontations do occur are averted or resolved quickly. Also, not very much Honor Harrington.

However, it's well written and engrossing as usual. And it's a logical progression in the saga of the Star Empire of Manticore and the very complex political situation of human space.

I enjoyed this book. My two complaints are:

(1) It's lack of focus on...more

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Apr 22, 2012 Brian rated it 3 of 5 stars

I am thankful I bought this book used, as I'm tired of funding a series that is slowly going nowhere. I have enjoyed the series and like to re-read the earlier books. It was a series of military sci-fi, but is now full of political dialogue. For nearly every event, we have the politicians discussing what they should do, doing it and then more politicians discussing what happened. And many events need several perspectives reflected in the dialogue. Where once books covered entire years, now we mu...more

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Mar 29, 2012 Brent rated it 4 of 5 stars

My general opinion of this series could be summed up as "love the Honorverse, hate Honor Harrington." I enjoyed this book because of the great expansion of the setting, while minimizing the most annoying aspects of Harrington. See my review of At All Costs for if you want an explanation for my disdain of the Duchess.

In answer to those claiming that the book is too slow or that much of it could have been edited out, I couldn't disagree more! This is space opera. Building a universe and wandering...more

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Oct 30, 2012 Bill VanderGiesen rated it 2 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Nobody

Recommended to Bill by: Nobody

Shelves: science-fiction

Unfortunately, as much as I have enjoyed David Weber and the Honor Harrington series over the years, this book was relatively boring to read. There were a few nuggets to be found, and an obvious attempt to try to bring the multiverse stories back into a comprehensive whole. Unfortunately, it really does not do that. A large portion of the book is about tertiary characters that you just can't care about. Yes, some of it is probably necessary to reach the big conclusions (in later books of course)...more

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Mar 27, 2012 Meghan Fidler rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: stuff-my-dad-gave-me

I LOVE the Honor Harrington series. About time a strong, smart female character takes political and military lead.

This book was a tiny disappointment, if only because the others have excelled all expectations. First, there were a number of copy editing errors (boo!), and the book spent more time on political development than with any people. To this point, Weber has phenomenal with his ability to balance talk on technology and politics with moments of delightfully well executed social interactio...more

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Mar 26, 2012 Lee rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: science-fiction

Book 13 in a series that I'm not sure WHY I like it anymore, there sure are a lot of things I don't like in them. Yet I found myself staying up past midnight both nights this weekend. I just wanted to read one more page, one more scene, one more chapter.

I think the two biggest draws to me are that I know the characters and setting, and I look forward to the "gotcha" moments that they set up against the bad guys: there's always at least one.

Yet, the characters are too numerous for many of them to...more

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Jan 26, 2013 Greg rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: science-fiction, military-science-fiction, military-space-opera, space-opera

A pretty great book of this series. As any series this long, the story has grown from one about one person to a much broader cast of characters... The twists and turns from the last book continues in this one, setting the ground work for many more books. :)

I had a minor beef with the kindle formatting, the indent for the paragraphs was only 1 space and that made it hard to catch them as a break.

Also I'm not sure if it was due to the fact that I read the previous book as an ARC or not, but when d...more

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Jul 01, 2012 PB rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

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