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  <title><![CDATA[Wittgenstein's Poker: The Story of a Ten-Minute Argument Between Two Great Philosophers]]></title>
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  <default_description>&lt;P&gt;On October 25, 1946, in a crowded room in Cambridge, England, the great twentieth-century philosophers Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper came face to face for the first and only time. The meeting -- which lasted ten minutes -- did not go well. Their loud and aggressive confrontation became the stuff of instant legend, but precisely what happened during that brief confrontation remained for decades the subject of intense disagreement. &lt;P&gt;An engaging mix of philosophy, history, biography, and literary detection, &lt;I&gt;Wittgenstein's Poker&lt;/i&gt; explores, through the Popper/Wittgenstein confrontation, the history of philosophy in the twentieth century. It evokes the tumult of fin-de-si&#233;cle Vienna, Wittgentein's and Popper's birthplace; the tragedy of the Nazi takeover of Austria; and postwar Cambridge University, with its eccentric set of philosophy dons, including Bertrand Russell. At the center of the story stand the two giants of philosophy themselves -- proud, irascible, larger than life -- and spoiling for a fight.</default_description>
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    <body><![CDATA[Karl Popper's a sad case. One of the greatest geniuses of the last century, he was an analytical philosopher <em>par excellence</em> at the exact moment when everyone started to ignore analytical philosophy. But at least he got to survive to see himself become extinct. <br/><br/>Wittgenstein and Popper wer...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/406500">more...</a>]]></body>
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  <read_at>Fri Dec 26 00:00:00 -0800 2008</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[Recently (re)discovering a keen interest in Wittgenstein and his work, I found myself once again lacking when I tried to confront the material <em>head-on</em>, as it were. I poured over the same books I'd studied in classes (now more than a decade ago) only to find myself asking the same questions. <em>Am I rea...</em><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/40974460">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[I almost did not buy this book because I was intimidated by its title. My knowledge of philosphy is scant,limited to the few classes I attended as an engineering underegrad. People who know a lot about philoshpy may be disappointed by this book, but I found it very interesting - like a historical no...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/55534378">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[This book was incredibly vapid. <br/><br/>The book is a fluffy soap opera that doesn't attempt to seriously describe either man's thoughts, and what it did describe was subpar to any &quot;Philosophers for Beginners&quot; comic books. The authors' characterization of Wittgenstein vacillated betwee...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/43778312">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Read this book in Bulgarian. It was a present to my boyfriend by an American friend, but it turned out my boyfriend already had the exact same copy, so he gave this one to me. <br/><br/>The subject of this very thorough journalistic investigation seemed a bit strange and pretentious to me at first...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/71272289">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Wittgenstein's Poker begins with the now legendary confrontation between philosophical heavyweights Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper, which allegedly resulted in Wittgenstein threatening the latter with a red hot poker before the very eyes of such big shots as Bertrand Russell. The book is an exa...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/34786307">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[I found the historical sketches which were basically book-ended with descriptions of &quot;the poker incident&quot; to be well worth the read.  Very interesting little insights into the lesser known (or even thought of) effects of WWI and WWII.  I learned some valuable things about European history,...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/32257136">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[The University of Pittsburgh often boasts that it has the second-best philosophy department in the U.S. The two courses I took - Social Philosophy and Medieval - lacked a certain historical element. Major theories were developed in an apparent vacuum. Clearly I should have taken History of Philosoph...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/25547338">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="4094070">
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    <body><![CDATA[Starring Ludwig Wittgenstein as Goliath and Karl Popper as David. Co-starring Bertrand Russell as the man who brought the demon into existence and then later called for his exorcism. Biography, history, sociology, and philosophy all get thrown into a pot with Anti-Semitic Jews, Nazis, homosexuality ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4094070">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="28878832">
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    <body><![CDATA[In 1946 philosopher Karl Popper gave a short lecture addressing the central questions of philosophy to a small audience at Cambridge University.  When attendee and legendary philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein stormed off in just ten minutes, apparently bristled by Popper's remarks, the meeting became t...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/28878832">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="42044739">
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  <read_at>Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 -0800 2006</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[A fascinating look at a ten-minute argument between two of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century. These two men had never met - and when they finally did, it was a virtual donnybrook with Ludwig Wittgenstein holding a poker at Karl Popper's throat while he berated him. The book looks at both...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/42044739">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="68197343">
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  <recommended_by><![CDATA[a gift from my lovely wife]]></recommended_by>
  <read_at>Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 -0800 2005</read_at>
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    <body><![CDATA[A good book, but you will be bored if you know anything about Wittgenstein and/or Popper's thought already.  I enjoyed it because I'd love to know more about both but I am busy with the rest of my life and sadly cannot throw it all aside to study these men's works, no matter how much they deserve it...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/68197343">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[In Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper, Vienna gave birth to two such radically different philosophers and men. Wittgenstein, the eccentric genius, certainly possessed the more agreeable personality of the two, but in this brief biography, quite unexpectedly, I found Popper to be far more recognizab...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/62369906">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Starting from the infamous poker incident at a 1946 meeting of the Moral Science Club at Cambridge, the authors weave a fascinating and enlightening tale of philosophical passions run wild. Popper and Wittgenstein dueling over the soul of philosophy. Are there big problems or only language puzzles? ...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/47475317">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="68429762">
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    <body><![CDATA[Long story short, famous Austrian gets his knickers in a twist but rather than invading Poland he gesticulates with a poker. In tabloid style the event is blown out of proportion - this book describes the lives of the main protagonists, the men, their women (and men), their work and place in history...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/68429762">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <review id="38997499">
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    <body><![CDATA[Popper's logical positivism and Wittgenstein's usage semantics come face to face in a quirky encounter.  A nice example of the sub-genre in which a brief encounter between two historical figures becomes the basis of an extended discussion of the history and the ideas that surround the event.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Typically, there's one advantage to having journalists write books on largely inaccessible topics like the philosophy of language: what their writing might lack in philosophical depth, it makes up for in clarity (and sometimes even elegance).  These guys seem to know their philosophy well enough.  B...<a href="http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/18807976">more...</a>]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[Interesting for the historical context and milieu in which these two philosophers met (Wittgenstein &amp; Popper). But it reads a little like a soap opera.]]></body>
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    <body><![CDATA[fascinating philosophical debate, with underlying personal histories of two famous philosophers.]]></body>
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