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Ramus chaosas

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Sandro Veronesi (g. 1959 m. Florencijoje) - geriausias savo kartos italų rašytojas, svarbiausių Italijos literatūros premijų - Campiello ir Viareggio - laureatas, tėvas, po skyrybų su žmona, vienas auginantis tris sūnus. Tai autorius, kurio išmintingomis knygomis šiuo metu gyvena visa Italija. 2007 m. jo romanas „Praeities galia" išleistas lietuvių kalba.
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Hardcover, 430 pages
Published 2009 by Tyto alba (first published 2005)
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Jasperzelf
Oct 03, 2011 Jasperzelf rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2011
I struggled to get through this. Although the premise is rather wonderful, the protagonist is egocentric, shallow and macho, a perfect match to all my prejudices of Italian men. There is also a lot of melodramic rambling, and people shouting in the street while gesturing wildly. Again, all my preconceptions of Italians are catered to.

Of course, Veronesi wants us to feel ambivalent towards Pietro, but I almost put the book away several times. I was constantly annoyed by his lack of understanding
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S©aP
Peccato che un romanzo intenso, e intimo, come questo si ritrovi a cadere su qualche stereotipo di gusto incerto e su artifici commerciali narrativi di lega minore. Peccato, perché è scritto da una penna intelligente, profonda, brava nel trasporre l'essenzialità del monologo interiore. Peccato che abbia prevalso il desiderio di ammiccare, qui e là, a lettori che nulla hanno a che fare con il 'genere' (chi ama i romanzi d'azione o i feuilleton resta a bocca asciutta). Peccato. Perché in fondo è u ...more
Robert Wechsler
Jan 21, 2017 Robert Wechsler rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: italian-lit
The best thing about this excellent novel is its inside-looking-out approach. Yes, every first-person narrator is inside looking out. But this one feels different. This one is deeply alienated and yet very involved in a special, often contradictory way. And this narrator is not just a way of telling the story. He is the center of a whirlpool of people suffering in a variety of ways.

What is most important about him is that he has suddenly become a different person in the eyes of the world, and se
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Karel-Willem Delrue
Ik beken. Ik hou van al wat Italiaans is. Niet in het minst van Italiaanse literatuur. Sandro Veronesi wordt door zijn uitgeverij op de achterflappen van zijn boeken voorgesteld als de belangrijkste Italiaanse auteur van het moment. Ik moet dus wel van zijn boeken houden.
Net als XY begint Kalme chaos met een opvallende premisse. In Kalme chaos geen gruwelijk verminkte lijken rond een bloedrode boom, wel een man die zich als het ware aan het leven onttrekt. Veronesi laat zijn personages, net zoal
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Dragos C Butuzea
May 18, 2015 Dragos C Butuzea rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
cel-care-în-timp-ce-bărba-su-o-lăsa-să-se-ducă-la-fund-ca-toporu'-i-a-salvat-viața-riscându-și-o-pe-a-lui-și-apoi-imediat-și-a-pierdut-soția-și-suferă-în-liniște-dedicându-se-cu-trup-și-suflet-fiicei-lui-într-atât-încât-rămâne-întreaga-zi-în-fața-școlii-unde-ea-învață

cam ăsta este numele personajului, pe care sandro veronesi însuși îl dă la pagina 307 a cărții, roman care a luat cel mai important premiul literar italian - premiul strega - în 2006.

am întrebat un scriitor italian aflat la filb (fe
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Benedikte
"... nu heb ik een definitie van kalme chaos: een jacht die nooit ophoudt, een jacht waarbij de jager van het ene op het andere moment kan veranderen in prooi."

Woorden van protagonist Pietro Paladini, aan wie Veronesi deze turf ophangt. We ontmoeten het hoofdpersonage op een cruciaal en ongewoon moment, wanneer hij een vrouw van de verdrinkingsdood redt. Bij thuiskomt blijkt dat zijn eigen vrouw Lara diezelfde dag het leven liet. Of: hoe leven en noodlot schrikwekkend verweven kunnen zijn. Wat v
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Arwen56
Siccome "inciampavo" un po' ovunque nei commenti dedicati al film, ho deciso di leggere il libro. Era parecchio tempo, d'altronde, che non leggevo qualcosa che appartenesse alla narrativa moderna.

Diciamo che, personalmente, non credo che questo romanzo entrerà mai nella storia della letteratura, nonostante abbia vinto il premio Strega 2006, tuttavia, benchè lo abbia trovato piuttosto "sciapo" in generale, ha sicuramente parecchi pregi.

Ad esempio, non è niente male l'idea di fondo ... quest'uom
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Natasja
Dec 20, 2015 Natasja rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: library, 2009, favorite, 2015
06/12/2015: gelezen in 2009 (*****) en nu aan het herlezen om meteen daarna in het vervolg Zeldzame Aarden te kunnen beginnen.

19/12/2015: Nog altijd even (quasi) perfect als bij het eerste lezen 6 jaar geleden.
Dit verhaal gaat over alles en niets, over de grote en kleine dingen die gebeuren in een leven, in een dag, in een stad. Geweldig hoe je al deze dingen als lezer door de ogen van Pietro Paladini ziet, op een soort van onthechte maar ongelooflijk intieme manier.

Veronesi vertelt over lijde
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Jennifer
Jun 22, 2008 Jennifer rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This was the book everyone was reading last Summmer. The premise was so promising: a handsome, wealthy, successful businessman-father, overwhelmed by grief when his wife dies suddenly, takes his young daughter to school. Hoping to help her ease back into to her first day, he assures her that he'll wait for her outside the school until the end of the school day. He does this every day, unable to stray from the reassuring presence of his daughter across the street, handling his business from the b ...more
Lauma
Apr 25, 2015 Lauma rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Wow! Ģeniāli!Tas itāļu Veronēzī ir satriecošākais pļāpa, ko esmu lasījusi! Tik spilgti domu un apziņas apraksti, līdzības, paralēlie domu sižeti, iekšējie dialogi un monologi reti grāmatās gadās, pat no Dostojevska īpaši neatpaliek. Un tai pašā laikā nav nogurdinoši, garlaicīgi vai pārgudri. Gultas aina (tas gan eifēmisms,jo gultas nebija) gan mani reāli traumēja,taču galvenā varoņa tai sekojošās izjūtas bija izlīgums ar lasītāju. Noteikti lasīšu arī X un Y. Un tulkotāja Dace Meiere izdarījusi v ...more
tinne
Aug 17, 2009 tinne rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Kalme Chaos is een heerlijk boek waarvan ik genoten heb en ik raad het iedereen aan. Vooral aan fans van Radiohead! ;)

De schrijfstijl is vloeiend en uitdagend, er wordt gegoocheld met perspectieven en als lezer weet je soms niet wie of wat je moet geloven. Het boek heeft me echt zin gegeven om meer Italiaanse schrijvers te ontdekken. Naast Cesare Pavese en Italo Calvino had ik nog niet veel geproefd van de Italiaanse literatuur. Het boek is een ode aan de vertelling: er wordt een verhaal vertel
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Tom
Jul 31, 2013 Tom rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction, dutch, italy
'Quiet Chaos'. I really loved the premise of this book. After the death of his wife, Pietro Paladini decides to spend his days next to the school of his daughter Claudia. It starts out as a joke, but turns into a very serious desire to stay there. Subsequently, Pietro's family and colleagues start showing up, and they show themselves to be very open-hearted.

A lot can be said about Pietro Paladini. Some readers can't stand his behaviour, apparently. This is where the book becomes a matter of opi
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Gloriagloom
Nov 18, 2010 Gloriagloom rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: italiani, soldi, buttati
Io un libro di Veronesi non lo toccherei neppure col forcipe, ma ero immobilizzato in un letto senza niente da leggere e il mio vicino non sembrava in condizione di poter leggere alcunchè, quindi l’ho preso in prestito dal suo comodino e mi ci son buttato dentro. Devo ammettere che ero prevenuto e devo convenire che la mia prevenzione era giustificata. Mi sono trascinato faticosamente fino a circa pagina cinquanta e dopo aver buttato uno sguardo al mio vicino e dopo aver constatato che non aveva ...more
Dan
Apr 13, 2016 Dan rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
I'll admit I bought this book largely because of the gorgeous cover. Nonetheless, it was a meaningful and intelligent book. The story concerns a man who's fiance dies while he's saving a drowning stranger. A widower, for all intents and purposes, he's left to care for his ten-year-old daughter. He does so by sitting outside her school for three months instead of going to the office. He fills his days with various musing, which can, at times, bore, but which also provide some pretty interesting i ...more
Sofia
Dec 08, 2015 Sofia rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Tive alguma dificuldade em avaliar este livro. A premissa é interessante, um homem salva uma mulher de morrer afogada enquanto a sua própria mulher morre à frente da filha. Incapaz de fazer o luto, fica à porta da escola da filha. Um dia, dois dias, aos poucos é aqui que decide ficar. As pessoas e amigos vêm ter com ele para lhe contarem os seus problemas e Pietro afunda-se neste caos calmo: interiormente sofre com a morte da mulher, exterior mente não consegue reagir.
Até aqui tudo bem. A parti
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Margherita Dolcevita
Mi è -incredibilmente- piaciuto ma non so dire il perchè.
Intanto è bene sgomberare la mente dalle immagini del film (che non ho ancora visto, ma insomma so che il protagonista era Moretti e che lui si inchiappettava la Ferrari, l'attrice, non la macchina eh), secondo me Moretti non era adatto, mi sono immaginata Pietro in tutt'altro modo.
Poi non so, ho trovato vagamente incomprensibili le parti relative alla fusione dell'azienda, ma il resto mi è piaciuto, ma non saprei dire esattamente cosa mi
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Stefan
Jul 07, 2013 Stefan rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Brilliant.

Luckily I hadn't read the backflap of the book and so I was in awe, right from the start. The strongest first chapter I ever read. I was completely swept off my feet.

After that the book takes a whole different tone. Towards the end it becomes almost a farce. Someone here was annoyed because it 'confirmed everything he thought about Italians'. Well, exactly. Hysteric, selfconscious, but always amusing. The writer, storyteller is always concerned about details and that made me laugh at t
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Martina
Classico romanzo di narrativa italiana, scritto bene, scorrevole, ok. La cosa che ho apprezzato di più di questo libro però è che nella sua banalità (come trama intendo) non è poi così banale. Questo perché, in poche parole, mi è capitato nella maggior parte dei casi di non riuscire a prevedere esattamente le mosse del protagonista. Strade che in altri libri sarebbero state banalmente prese e percorse dai personaggi, in questo libro vengono evitate. Il protagonista di "Caos calmo", a mio modesto ...more
Fortunata
May 31, 2012 Fortunata rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A novel that moves slowly yet powerfully through a man's quiet journey through the grieving process after the sudden loss of his partner. He becomes part of the microcosm of life in the park outside his daughter's school where he sets up daily camp and quietly observes the comings and goings of various characters. Translated superbly from the original Italian, the translator has managed to retain the specific sardonic and witty sense of Italian humour. I was inspired to read this book after watc ...more
Elalma
Jun 16, 2012 Elalma rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: italiana
In sintesi l'ho trovato un bel libro, ben scritto e scorrevole. Mi molto piaciuta la trovata della cognata Marta con i sorrisi come carico di energia per chi li riceve. L' ambiente davanti a scuola, abbastanza verosimile. Finalmente un racconto che si svolge a Milano. Un'imprecisione mi ha dato fastidio: quando descrive la bambina che si sta per librare in una piroetta parla di energia cinetica dove di cinetico non c' ancora nulla, semmai energia (elastica) potenziale. Dettaglio che mi ha dato ...more
Mauro Minenna
Perchè scrivere un inizio così sensazionale, avere per le mani un'idea sviluppabile pressoché in qualsiasi modo in natura e sciuparla trascinandola in lungo e in largo fino a un finale sostanzialmente inconcludente?
Prospero
Ha tradito le mie aspettative. Lento nello sviluppo e nella creazione delle personalità dei protagonisti che non sono state esposte ed esplorate in maniera completa.
Madeleine
Jul 27, 2009 Madeleine rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Er gebeurt weinig, kalm dus, maar fascinerend meeslepend verhaal.
Andrei
Nov 25, 2016 Andrei rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Италијаните имаат еден добар глагол - chiacchierare, што на нашки буквално би се превело - брборење. Со таа разлика што кај нив, повеќе е во позитивна конотација - јер тие во принцип се големи брбливци.
Така и со книгава. Тој неизбежен и секогаш присутен елемент му дава посебен шмек на овој роман, зависно од публиката и особено од самиот читач колку е во можност истиот да го восприеми. На моменти ми одеше толку на нерви, на моменти не можев да престанам да се смеам.
Шармантно прикажана прикаска
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Yoy
May 30, 2015 Yoy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Pietro Paladini, directeur in een belangrijk telecombedrijf, is weduwenaar geworden (op een vreemde manier). Hij brengt zijn dochter naar school. Voor dat gebouw, in de omgeving met een mooi parkje, een koffiebar en zijn auto zal hij voortaan iedere dag blijven wachten tot zijn dochter uit school komt. Buren, vrienden, familie en collega’s komen bij hem langs om deelneming te betuigen maar mettertijd vooral om hun eigen zorgen te vertellen. Niemand lijkt te weten hoe hij moet leven. Op het werk ...more
Djuna
Jan 01, 2017 Djuna rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
3,5
Lucas Leite
Dec 31, 2011 Lucas Leite rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The Apparent Anesthesia of Everyday Life

Pietro Paladini saves Eleonora Simoncini from drowning while his wife, elsewhere, dies struck by a sudden illness. Starting from this fateful coincidence, Veronesi develops the story of the successful executive Pietro and his little daughter, Claudia.

How to overcome the premature and unexpected? How to deal with the irreversibility of certain events, when what is wish to for life events and actions are reversible? How to handle with death and its conseque
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Surymae
Mar 20, 2014 Surymae rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Deve essere dura, essere quarantenni. Non lo so di persona, essendoci ancora piuttosto lontana, ma suppongo proprio di sì. Lavoro, famiglia, cavoli vari... un bel calvario, non c'è che dire. Ma per fortuna esiste una cosa chiamata "tempo libero" che si compone anche di libri come "Caos calmo". Libri che sembrano fatti apposta proprio per togliere pesi dalle spalle dei poveri quarantenni di cui sopra; e badate bene, non è esattamente un complimento...

Come ogni buona recensione che si rispetti, pa
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Melania
Jul 23, 2016 Melania rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
SANDRO VERONESI - HAOS CALM

Un bărbat salvează o femeie de la înec, moment în care acasă soţia lui moare, lăsând singura lor fetiţa fără mamă. Nici bărbatul, nici fetiţa, din cauză că reflectă starea tatălui, nu simt nimic, continuându-şi viaţa de parcă nu s-ar fi întâmplat nici o tragedie, conştienţi fiind în acelaşi timp că durerea ar putea să-i lovească în orice moment. Totuşi, acest lucru nu se întâmplă.

Ceea ce se întâmplă totuşi este că tatăl hotărăşte să rămână în faţa clădirii şcolii unde
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Werner Leys
Sep 20, 2016 Werner Leys rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Wat een prachtige taal! Bijzonder verhaal! Graag gelezen!
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Sandro Veronesi, born in Florence, Tuscany in 1959, is an Italian novelist, essayist, and journalist. After earning a degree in architecture at the University of Florence, he opted for a writing career in his mid to late twenties. Veronesi published his first book at the age of 25, a collection of poetry (Il resto del cielo, 1984) that has remained his only venture into verse writing. What has fol ...more
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