There but for the

There but for the

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From the award-winning author of Hotel World and The Accidental, a dazzling, funny, and wonderfully exhilarating new novel.

At a dinner party in the posh London suburb of Greenwich, Miles Garth suddenly leaves the table midway through the meal, locks himself in an upstairs room, and refuses to leave. An eclectic group of neighbors and friends slowly gathers around the house

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Published (first published June 2nd 2011)
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karen
*floating this to irritate the person who irritated me with her comment.*

i did this book a great disservice.

at first, i plowed through it like a maniac, loving every minute of it. then, i put it down for about two days and totally lost my momentum, and when i returned, the shine was off the apple.

completely my fault.

it has been nearly a week since i have written a book review, and this feels like a less-than-triumphant return, but it is fitting - i need to be punished for my weekend hedonism an...more
Fionnuala
There is no doubt in my mind that Ali Smith is a fine writer, a reader’s writer, maybe even a writer’s writer too, although I suspect there are writers out there who think she makes it all look as easy as an unmade bed. There you go, people differ hugely in what they rate as interesting or significant, but whatever kind of writer Smith is, she’s definitely my kind, and for the long term. There will be, I hope, many more of her books to enjoy since she is one of the rare woman writers I admire wh...more
Patrick
Will you remember me in a months time?
Yes.
Will you remember me in 6 months time?
Yes.
Will you remember me in a years time?
Yes.
Will you remember me in 2 years time?
Yes.
Will you remember me in 3 years time?
Yes.
Knock knock.
Who's there?
See, you've forgotten me already.


I used to work at a video store in college. It was a small mom and pop shop, and it was a great place to work. Since it was such a small operation, there were only a handful of other employees and I knew everyone pretty well. So you can...more
Teresa
If you're new to Ali Smith and think you might like her (I can easily see that she's not everyone's 'thing'), read her brilliant short stories, or the novels Hotel World or The Accidental first. I loved those.

And if you have read all of Ali Smith, as I have, I think you will find that this book is merely okay, even tedious near the end, and that maybe instead it could've been another brilliant short story. Because what feels like excessive padding and way too much language-play (esp with the la...more
Jimmy
THERE

is no there there, Gertrude Stein famously wrote in 1937, a sentence that loops back on itself in order to question its own grammar. Maybe what she meant was that the first there has no antecedent. But the sentence also pushes out, questions the world, questions the idea of a place in time, a time in place, that exists only because it is not here, relatively speaking.

This novel has a similar trajectory. Broken down into four sections titled There, But, For, and The, it tells an abstract sto...more
Beth
THERE

was once a man who, one night between the main course and the sweet at a dinner party, went upstairs and locked himself in one of the bedrooms of the house of the people who were giving the dinner party.

There was once a woman who had met this man thirty years before, had known him slightly for roughly two weeks, in the middle of a summer when they were both seventeen, and hadn't seen him since, though they'd occasionally, for a few years after, exchanged Christmas cards, that kind of thing.
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Mark Desrosiers
Mysterious dinner guess trudges upstairs, locks himself in a room, and uses his silence and media attention to hurl four deep abiding characters at us. The resulting novel (actually a quartet of novellas) is riveting and hilarious, puts us in sixteen safe places, yet begs for a serious scalp-clutching reread. Ali Smith drops riffs and clues whose scent wafts many pages later, and her punning and wordplay evoke another reality, one where a trickster gender-neutral wisdom kid seems to conduct (or...more
E
Oh, Ali Smith. You are an infuriating lover.

I know Frustration is half the fun. And I had so much fun.

But could you please just TRY to write in goddamned paragraphs?

I saw and felt the Disorientation, Stream of Consciousness and Frustration.

But I majored in poetry, and therefore I do not believe but KNOW that space allows for lyricism in all the ways your Matrix layout did not.

It's just a suggestion. Because otherwise I loved it all.

And to be honest, I don't know if I know how to love you with...more
Lisa
This is another one of those books getting good reviews, but for me, it didn't live up to the hype. This isn't your typical book in that there's not a plot per se. The author sometimes does away with punctuation and linear notions, and even though it centers around Miles Garth who locks himself up in a guest room during a dinner party, we never truly learn about him or his motivations.

Instead, we get the perspectives of four different people who had a brief interaction with him. Mostly, each nar...more
Janet
Based on the reviews and descriptions of this book on Best of the Year lists, I expected to love this book. A bit quirky? Fine. Written from different viewpoints? Fine. Not linear? Probably fine, just so there was some sort of logic that I could follow.

They neglected to mention that the wit and wordplay became precious, or that the reader would reach the end of the book still having no clue why Miles (aka Milo) had locked himself in the room for months, which I found incredibly frustrating.

It se...more
Larou
If you look really closely, this book does have a plot; it would go something like this: Man withdraws from dinner party to barricade himself in a guest room at his hosts’ house, stays for several months, then leaves without telling anyone. Which, no matter how you view it, really is not much in the way of a plot – but then plot is not what Ali Smith’s novel There but for the is about.[return][return]What the novel is about is history, both public and private, about knowledge of the world, of ou...more
David Franks
Ali Smith: There but for the

There’s a wonderful scene in the film Educating Rita in which Julie Waters, as an Open University student, asks her tutor (Michael Caine) what assonance is. He tells her it’s a form of rhyme, and gives her an example from a poem where Yeats rhymes the word "swan" with the word "stone". Rita’s comment is “yeah, means getting the rhyme wrong”. It’s a good joke, but it’s been pointed out many times that this is not an example of assonance, but of dissonance, where the fi...more
David
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Andrea Mullarkey
I don’t know how I got this far in life without reading a book by Ali Smith! There But For The was wonderful. Miles Garth goes to a dinner party in an upper middle class neighborhood in Greenwich. Somewhere between the main course and dessert he goes upstairs to a guest bedroom and locks himself in. Over the course of the next days and weeks he develops a cult following as people seek to solve the mystery of the guest who over-stayed his welcome.

Miles’s story is told in four parts, first by the...more
Meera
I'm undecided. I really wanted to like this more, I see that it's clever, and literary, and the author loves words and puns and trickery, but ultimately I was frustrated. The story seems to offer potential - guest comes to a dinner party (full of truly obnoxious people) and goes off and locks himself in the spare bedroom halfway through. No-one knows why, and no-one really knows him. Unfortunately, by the end of the story, you're really no wiser why, and I wanted to know more about what motivate...more
Richda Mcnutt
I wish there were a way to give a book 3 1/2 stars - that's what it was for me. The beginning and third sections were 4, but for me the second and last sections were 3; ergo, 3 1/2. If you are a fan of old-fashioned narrative, this book is not for you. It has some of that, but it also has some stream-of-consciousness and some post-modern writing as well. Ali Smith loves words - she plays with words, she plays on words, she connects different depths and meanings of words with back-to-back sentenc...more
Amy Pratt
There But For The
Ali Smith

I am a big fan of Ali Smith. She likes to set up an ordinary situation and insert into it an absurd event. In The Accidental, my favorite, (and structured more traditionally) a girl moves in with a family and won't leave, thereby changing the family dynamics in important ways. In Hotel World, a much darker tale, a homeless person ends up in a luxurious suite for a night due to other weird events. There But For The , like Hotel World, is a series of vignettes, each from...more
Kasey
An amazing and happy surprise. I picked up this audiobook at my local library, needing something to listen to on my commute, and knowing nothing about Ali Smith. It's hard to know where to begin to praise this novel(and it's also hard to know how to without giving too much away). I adored it. Though maybe not at first... it took me a while, an hour or so of listening, to let myself fall into it completely. It is that sort of book--it takes some work on the reader/listener's part, and some trust....more
Nicole
In the midst of a dinner party, a guest barely known to anyone there walks up the stairs, locks himself in the spare room and refuses to come out. Days, weeks, months...the gentle vegetarian behind the door shows no signs of leaving, only requesting they please slip something other than lunchmeat under the door. By the time the narrative actually takes us to that dinner, and we are regaled by the wickedly satirized dishonesty of drunken, bone-headed repartee in which these dinner guests are accu...more
christa
I was robbed by a British author. Not cool, Ali Smith. The masses were bleating favorably about the novel “There But For The” and frankly the premise seemed so intriguing: A man at a dinner party with a collection of strangers gets up, goes upstairs and locks himself in a spare room -- luckily one with a bathroom, unfortunately at a house not very sympathetic to his vegetarian diet. He refuses to come out for days, for weeks, until he becomes a folk hero and the locals camp out and wait for a gl...more
Bonnie
Let me play devil’s advocate here. Does the fact that the part that made the most sense was told by an eighty year old woman with dementia tell you anything about this book? How about the idea of page after page of stream of consciousness? Paragraphs that are pages long? How about a premise that is absolutely laughable? Here it is:

A man accompanies another man to a dinner party. After being introduced to the hosts and other guests, partway through the meal, he excuses himself, goes upstairs into...more
Matt
This is the first thing I've read by Ali Smith, so forgive me if I gush over elements that may seem tiresome to those of longer acquaintance. From a slight and silly premise (at a fancy dinner party in Greenwich, a man goes upstairs and locks himself into the guest suite), Smith develops an original set of characters and a solid theme that never feels too heavy. The theme is, let's call it "the role of individuals in history" (where history is both History and personal history), and the characte...more
Tanya
I'm interested to have read There but for the relatively soon after reading A Visit from the Goon Squad. I'm sure an academic reader somewhere has already named this particular brand of post-modern novel, but I haven't read/heard about it yet, so I'm calling them networked novels. Reading them seems to most closely resemble my somewhat tenuous connections to/reading of my Facebook and Twitter account. Each seems to reject a structure based on a central character, or even a tightly connected grou...more
Eileen
With a title like this (and without reading the synopsis on Amazon), I had no idea what to expect. It was amazing. I honestly can't wait to pick up another of Ali Smith's novels to see what else she can do.

I debated between giving this four or five stars... mainly because I suppose this would be classified as "experimental fiction," as it doesn't have a clean narrative flow, and, in fact, the narrative really doesn't resolve at all. I prefer my fiction to end with a tidy bow. However, it was a j...more
Jowel Uddin
There but for the
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“There but for the”, is an example of wonderful modern literature and a good read. Ali Smith is very intelligent and clever in her ways.


“There but for the” is about a man who locks himself in a room upstairs during a dinner party in the lavish London suburb of Greenwich. Miles Garth or the man refuses to leave and his reason for locking himself is unknown. Miles's tale is then told from four different people each with their own point of view: Anna, a forty year old wo...more
Sara
Wow. I hardly know where to start. I read "Hotel World" not long after it was published. It was hard getting through it at times because Smith's writing is so experimental (I guess that's the right word). But I really liked it and it was short, more novella length, and was glad I finished it, even though it was a mental struggle. I couldn't do it for "The Accidental." I just got too lost in the "experimentation" (let's just keep using this word that doesn't really mean what I want to say but is...more
Beth Jusino
If a butterfly flapping its wings can cause a hurricane, then how much can happen when a man excuses himself from a dinner party and locks himself in his hosts' spare bedroom, behind a priceless antique door that they can't bear to see destroyed? This is not a novel that tolerates distraction. You have to shut out the rest of your world -- the dishes in the sink, the spouse or child trying to talk to you, the oven timer going off -- and dive deep into the ripple effects that throw themselves at...more
Ben Dutton
It is such a simple premise. A dinner guest goes up the spare room and doesn’t come out. Not for days. Not for weeks. The owners have to pass food under the door for him and he passes notes back out, but he will not open that door. Then a cult springs up about him – the cult of Milo, though his name is actually Miles (Milo just sounds better, they reason, more like a name such a man would have). Only this being an Ali Smith novel, the presentation isn’t quite as simple as that. We meet a woman h...more
Anita Laydon
Fiction for adults can be separated into two distinct worlds: literary and popular.

Literary fiction explores characters in depth. It’s not unusual for literary authors to write pages of character description, both physical and psychological. Literary fiction is often complex and multi-layered. While these books have a plot, the emphasis is on character more than story.

Popular fiction, on the other hand, is all about story. Ask a reader to describe popular—also known as “commercial”—work and he o...more
Jannekb
Ali Smith’s “there but for the” is a deliciously vivid, clever, and humane novel told from the perspectives of four different people who know (or knew) Miles, a man who decides to lock himself into a spare bedroom while at a stranger’s dinner party and then refuses to come out. Caveat: if you like things neatly tied up and all your questions answered with a certainty at the end of a book, or if you happen to have a strong aversion to puns, Ali Smith’s “there but for the” may not be for you. This...more
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Ali Smith is a writer, born in 1962 in Inverness, Scotland, to working-class parents. She was raised in a council house in Inverness and now lives in Cambridge. She studied at Aberdeen, and then at Cambridge, for a Ph.D. that was never finished. In a 2004 interview with writing magazine Mslexia, she talked briefly about the difficulty of becoming ill with chronic fatigue syndrome for a year and ho...more
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“What would happen if you did just shut a door and stop speaking? Hour after hour after hour of no words. Would you speak to yourself? Would words just stop being useful? Would you lose language altogether? Or would words mean more, would they start to mean in every direction, all somersault and assault, like a thuggery of fireworks? Would they proliferate, like untended plantlife? Would the inside of your head overgrow with every word that has ever come into it, every word that has ever silently taken seed or fallen dormant? Would your own silence make other things noisier? Would all the things you’d ever forgotten, all layered there inside you, come bouldering up and avalanche you?” 14 people liked it
“What shop did this book come from? she asked. Her father was looking worried at the cooker. He always got rice wrong. I don't know, Brooksie, he said, I don't remember. That was unimaginable, not remembering where a book has come from! and where it was bought from! That was part of the whole history, the whole point, of any book that you owned! And when you picked it up later in the house at home, you knew, you just knew by looking and having it in your hand, where it came from and where you got it and when and why you'd decided to buy it.” 8 people liked it
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