Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty
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Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty

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A revelatory look at how Roger Williams shaped the nature of religion, political power, and individual rights in America.

For four hundred years, Americans have wrestled with and fought over two concepts that define the nature of the nation: the proper relation between church and state and between a free individual and the state. These debates began with the extraordinary t...more
Hardcover, 441 pages
Published January 5th 2012 by Viking Adult
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Tony
(Thank you Goodreads Giveaways!)

We Westerners look at chanting Sunni or Shiite Muslims, filling our CNN screens, vowing death to us certainly, but also to each other and think, what barbarians! And, we think, they have splintered so murderously over such pedantry as right of religious succession or some interpretation of a religious text. What barbarians, indeed.

If you think that, and think we (you) are not like that, especially if you think that because you are Christian, then read this book.

So...more
Emily
You know those moments when you realize that the "history" you've believed in not only isn't the whole story, but perhaps is even completely wrong? Yeah. So, you know how the Puritans risked everything to sail across the ocean and colonize America because they believed in freedom of religion? Actually, they left England because the king and those who led the Church of England demanded complete conformity under pain of torture, dismemberment, and death, and they couldn't, in good conscience, conf...more
Justin
If you’re like me, you didn’t know much about Roger Williams before considering this book. Based solely on his status as the founder of Rhode Island, he hardly seems a titan of Anglo history. But Barry makes a very persuasive case that he stands in a direct intellectual lineage from Sir Edward Coke to Williams to John Locke, and that he deserves mention in the same breath as those two titans of the history of liberty. Williams’s contribution was freedom of religion.

Creation of the American Soul...more
Ken Moten
Jan 10, 2013 Ken Moten rated it 4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: Everyone who does not favor living in a theocracy
"I desire not to sleep in security and dream of a Nest which no hand can reach. I can not but expect changes, yet dare I not despise a Liberty, which the Lord seemeth[sic] to offer me if for mine own or others peace." - Roger Williams

Is it allowed to man-crush on 17th century protestant ministers? I didn't think so either but I do have to say I have a new historical hero.

Why do guys like him never make the final cut in history class?! Well I think I can answer that question; Texas won't be tea...more
Margaret
This is an incredible book! Never have I been so riveted by a history book! I thought that I knew a little bit about our pre- revolutionary war history, having been a prolific reader all my life, but I didn't know anything! I also was not familiar with any of Mr. Barry's other books, but I found out that his other books have won more than 20 awards. In my opinion this book will join them on that list. This book looks at the very beginnings of the conflict over the relationship between the church...more
Thing Two
When I started this book, I believed the Pilgrims came to the Massachusetts shores because they were seeking freedom of religion; I believed that Thomas Jefferson coined the phrase "a wall of separation"; and I believed that the first amendment was written to keep the church - God/religion, etc. - out of the state. I now know better.

Roger Williams was a Protestant theologian studying under Sir Edward Coke when Coke was imprisoned for ideas in conflict with James I. In order to escape his own imp...more
Jay Perkins
One of the most important liberties in the United States has been that of religious freedom. The story of Roger Williams and his fight for what he termed "soul liberty" lay at the root of this freedom. Williams himself was persecuted for his belief in the separation of church and state by the Puritans and Pilgrims who thought that the state should be involved in enforcing church doctrine. There is much here for Christians to learn. What should be our attitude toward state government? Should a na...more
Janet
Thank you John M. Barry. It has been a long time since I have read a book that made me use so much of my brain. I had to get out the dictionary a few times for unfamiliar words. This was a very well researched historical account. I learned a great deal about my country and church. It is amazing that someone's ideas and beliefs still shape current decisions even after 400+ years. I did not remember Roger Williams name from any of my school year's history, but it is evident that he was a great par...more
Lauren Albert
What I knew about Roger Williams could be summed up in four words: "religious toleration" and "Rhode Island"! But he is a far more interesting and remarkable man than can be summed up so simply. His toleration was astoundingly beyond what even the more tolerant believed in his time. And it was rooted in his belief in human weakness, including his. Error was constant--so how could anyone but God judge others? The state should not judge thoughts and beliefs but acts. And since he believed in an ab...more
Jennifer
Note: this book was a Goodreads First Read

I was intrigued by simply the title of this new book. I had taken an Early American literature class in college and read Sarah Vowell's (highly recommended!)Wordy Shipmates so I was vaguely familiar with Roger Williams and the fact that he was one daring Puritan.

This book was a great treat just to get to know more about Roger Williams, who definitely isn't as well known as an early American as he perhaps should be. One little quibble I have with this boo...more
KyBunnies
This book was won in the Goodreads.com First Read giveaway.

This book is only available for pre-order. The release date for this book is set at January 5, 2012

This is a look at how Roger Williams helped to shape and revolutionize religion, political power and individual rights in America.

I do not remember studying about Roger Williams in my American history class in high school. Nor the class I took in college. But This should be one man that a month could and should be devoted to.

The author gi...more
Andy Miller
A great biography about a great man with not only great ideas but with the convictions and fortitude to put them into action. Like most of us I learned about Roger Williams in school, how he left the Puritans to found Rhode Island and build a society based on toleration of different religious beliefs

But this book shows that there was much more to his story. Much of its beginning dealt with Williams' mentor, the lawyer Coke and how he laid the foundation for many of our current legal and politica...more
Michael
I am seriously into historical non-fiction and am always looking for history that is news to me. I first stumbled onto John M. Barry when I was looking for information on the great flu pandemic of 1918 and found Barry's book "The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History." I thought it was just about the pandemic but I found it to be about so much more; the story of the birth of modern medicine. As they say: "he had me at hello" and I've been a Barry fan ever since.

Next ca...more
Stacey
History - straight history . . . not my typical reading material, but this tome came highly recommended, by an equally avid reader whose opinion I respect. she noted Barry's gift for narrative, how he could take an otherwise dry timeline and tell the story - of nations, government, movements, and individuals. I'm widely read in the area of evangelical Christianity, and thanks to my current position, I'm immersed in the worlds of politics and law. John M. Barry's most recent book, Roger Williams...more
Pat
My son, Dave, gave me this book because Roger Williams(1603-1683) is one of our lineal ancestors (my dad was named Roger Williams Dean after an aunt discovered the genealogical connection)...but I've never known much about the man, other than he founded Rhode Island.

This is a great book for those who like reading about American History...and is one of the best I've read on the events leading up to the American Revolution and the founding of our country...

...it is an eye-opener. Williams was THE...more
David
We think we live in trying times. How about living in England and the future US during the 1600s? Puritans leave England and set up a "city on a hill" in Massachusetts but the city explicitly ties Church and State: criticizing the State is seen as heresy; not observing religious rules brings on civil penalties. Along comes Roger Williams, well schooled in dealing with royalty and follower of people thinking about Church and State. Meanwhile, back in England the King is also mixing Church and Sta...more
Alan
As the years go by and I read more and more revisionist history--history that seems to be well grounded in old diaries and actual fact, as opposed to 7th grade textbook myths--more and more "heroes" seem to become quite unheroic. Take Christopher Columbus, for example. I am not all that enamored with Abraham Lincoln, for that matter.

It is so refreshing, then, to find true heroes like Samuel Champlain (Champlain's Dreamby David Hackett Fischer and Roger Williams.

John M. Barry has given us a man w...more
Gobasso
I wish I could give more stars to this book. In the present day controversies of religion and state few will refer to Roger Williams and that is a shame.
Placing Williams in the history and thought of his time Mr. Barry grounds a thoroughly revolutionary idea in its English and American context. Fascinating to note that Roger Williams used the phrase "separation of church and state" long before Jefferson. Perhaps the one criticism is that Barry leaves the influence or lack thereof of Williams til...more
Marie Fouhey
A fascinating account of the development of the idea of the separation of church and state. It's also a really interesting depiction of the troubles Williams had in establishing freedom in Rhode Island, including repeated attempts by Massachusetts Bay and Plymouth to annex his land, troubles caused by the dissidents he allowed to settle in RI, and the repeated trips he had to take back to England in order to establish RI as a separate entity. The author also describes the Puritan problems in Eng...more
Bob
May 26, 2012 Bob added it
I'm about two-thirds into this really in-depth look into the history of one of those piece of early English colonial times that tends to be included in our history classes. I'm learning,though, how those classes just scratched the surface of activities that color some of our own times today with regard to morality, ethics, conformity and group dynamics at the cultural/societal level.
Pam Johnson
I majored in US History at a New England college, but this book reminded me of how much more there is to learn about history. I especially appreciated the detailed account of Williams' life in England, which so informed his life in New England. This book would be great read with Mayflower, by Nathaniel Philbrick-- in fact, I may re-read that next!
Daniel
John M. Barry brings this interesting topic to life. The struggle for American freedom is ongoing and to see some of the roots of this struggle is fasinating. With out Roger Williams and people like him our country may have never existed. Thank you John and goodreads for letting me experience this book.
Edward Sullivan
An exceptionally well-written, fascinating, insightful portrait of Roger Williams and his times, the Puritan theologian who championed freedom of religion and the strict separation of church and state, and founded what would become Rhode Island.
Joseph Haletky
The author is a college classmate of mine from Brown University in Providence, RI., and I grew up in the Boston area. Thus, both author and subject were of interest to me. Very well written story of one of the more overlooked Founding Fathers.
Christina
One of the best books I've ever read. I love the review of British rights in the first chapter, and Roger Williams is almost more impressive than any of our founding fathers, if that's possible.
Kristen
Nov 18, 2011 Kristen marked it as to-read
I'm so happy to have won this book in the giveaway! Can't wait to receive it and start reading! Thanks!
Yy
Nov 18, 2011 Yy marked it as to-read
I won this book for free through Goodreads First Reads. Thanks.
Erika
The book:

Once again, Barry has presented a meticulously researched and detailed account of history. I've read his book "The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History," and found it very interesting, but I liked this better.

Barry goes back to well before Williams became a figure in New England, to the people and forces that shaped his views and opinions. It drags a bit during this set-up, but it does help to put things in context.

He presents both sides of a man who was both...more
Aaron
This book is fascinating and it almost reads like fiction. This is the riveting tale of how the Puritans escaped England's religious oppression, only to set up their own religiously oppressive society in America. It unflinchingly demonstrates the utter failure of blending the church and state - of how the two are very separate things and need to remain separate in order for any sincerity to survive in either. Roger Williams arises as one of the very first people to suggest - and try out - a gove...more
John Hodge
This book is a gem. Although written in a straightforward style appropriate for a factual history, it reads like a novel, because the events so carefully described are exciting and shocking. This history reveals the real beginning of American political ideals, not in Boston or Massachusetts in the 1770s, but in Providence, Rhode Island, a settlement founded by Roger Williams, beginning in the 1630s. The book also reveals the logical development of William’s thinking from his prior close acquaint...more
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John M. Barry is an American author and historian, perhaps best known for his books on the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 the influenza pandemic of 1918and his book on the development of the modern form of the ideas of separation of church and state and individual liberty. His most recent book is Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty (Viking...more
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