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Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty

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A revelatory look at how Roger Williams shaped the nature of religion, political power, and individual rights in America.

For four hundred years, Americans have wrestled with and fought over two concepts that define the nature of the nation: the proper relation between church and state and between a free individual and the state. These debates began with the extraordinary t
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Hardcover, 441 pages
Published January 5th 2012 by Viking Adult
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Emily
You know those moments when you realize that the "history" you've believed in not only isn't the whole story, but perhaps is even completely wrong? Yeah. So, you know how the Puritans risked everything to sail across the ocean and colonize America because they believed in freedom of religion? Actually, they left England because the king and those who led the Church of England demanded complete conformity under pain of torture, dismemberment, and death, and they couldn't, in good conscience, conf ...more
Tony
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We Westerners look at chanting Sunni or Shiite Muslims, filling our CNN screens, vowing death to us certainly, but also to each other and think, what barbarians! And, we think, they have splintered so murderously over such pedantry as right of religious succession or some interpretation of a religious text. What barbarians, indeed.

If you think that, and think we (you) are not like that, especially if you think that because you are Christian, then read this book.

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H.
If you’re like me, you didn’t know much about Roger Williams before considering this book. Based solely on his status as the founder of Rhode Island, he hardly seems a titan of Anglo history. But Barry makes a very persuasive case that he stands in a direct intellectual lineage from Sir Edward Coke to Williams to John Locke, and that he deserves mention in the same breath as those two titans of the history of liberty. Williams’s contribution was freedom of religion.

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Ken Moten
Jan 10, 2013 Ken Moten rated it 4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: Everyone who does not favor living in a theocracy
"I desire not to sleep in security and dream of a Nest which no hand can reach. I can not but expect changes, yet dare I not despise a Liberty, which the Lord seemeth[sic] to offer me if for mine own or others peace." - Roger Williams

Is it allowed to man-crush on 17th century protestant ministers? I didn't think so either but I do have to say I have a new historical hero.

Why do guys like him never make the final cut in history class?! Well I think I can answer that question; Texas won't be tea
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Michael
I am seriously into historical non-fiction and am always looking for history that is news to me. I first stumbled onto John M. Barry when I was looking for information on the great flu pandemic of 1918 and found Barry's book "The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History." I thought it was just about the pandemic but I found it to be about so much more; the story of the birth of modern medicine. As they say: "he had me at hello" and I've been a Barry fan ever since.

Next ca
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Margaret
This is an incredible book! Never have I been so riveted by a history book! I thought that I knew a little bit about our pre- revolutionary war history, having been a prolific reader all my life, but I didn't know anything! I also was not familiar with any of Mr. Barry's other books, but I found out that his other books have won more than 20 awards. In my opinion this book will join them on that list. This book looks at the very beginnings of the conflict over the relationship between the church ...more
Thing Two
When I started this book, I believed the Pilgrims came to the Massachusetts shores because they were seeking freedom of religion; I believed that Thomas Jefferson coined the phrase "a wall of separation"; and I believed that the first amendment was written to keep the church - God/religion, etc. - out of the state. I now know better.

Roger Williams was a Protestant theologian studying under Sir Edward Coke when Coke was imprisoned for ideas in conflict with James I. In order to escape his own imp
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Jay Perkins
One of the most important liberties in the United States has been that of religious freedom. The story of Roger Williams and his fight for what he termed "soul liberty" lay at the root of this freedom. Williams himself was persecuted for his belief in the separation of church and state by the Puritans and Pilgrims who thought that the state should be involved in enforcing church doctrine. There is much here for Christians to learn. What should be our attitude toward state government? Should a na ...more
Janet
Thank you John M. Barry. It has been a long time since I have read a book that made me use so much of my brain. I had to get out the dictionary a few times for unfamiliar words. This was a very well researched historical account. I learned a great deal about my country and church. It is amazing that someone's ideas and beliefs still shape current decisions even after 400+ years. I did not remember Roger Williams name from any of my school year's history, but it is evident that he was a great par ...more
Lauren Albert
What I knew about Roger Williams could be summed up in four words: "religious toleration" and "Rhode Island"! But he is a far more interesting and remarkable man than can be summed up so simply. His toleration was astoundingly beyond what even the more tolerant believed in his time. And it was rooted in his belief in human weakness, including his. Error was constant--so how could anyone but God judge others? The state should not judge thoughts and beliefs but acts. And since he believed in an ab ...more
Pam Johnson
I majored in US History at a New England college, but this book reminded me of how much more there is to learn about history. I especially appreciated the detailed account of Williams' life in England, which so informed his life in New England. This book would be great read with Mayflower, by Nathaniel Philbrick-- in fact, I may re-read that next!
Joseph Haletky
The author is a college classmate of mine from Brown University in Providence, RI., and I grew up in the Boston area. Thus, both author and subject were of interest to me. Very well written story of one of the more overlooked Founding Fathers.
Kristen
Nov 18, 2011 Kristen marked it as to-read
I'm so happy to have won this book in the giveaway! Can't wait to receive it and start reading! Thanks!
Yy
Nov 18, 2011 Yy marked it as to-read
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Jason Reeser
It is difficult to describe my interest in this book. I saw it at the book store and thought "What an odd subject." Yet at the same time it really intrigued me and I had a feeling it would be a great read. It really helped that it was written by John Barry, the legendary author of "The Great Influenza". (I mean that, by the way, he is legendary around this house. Several of my kids have read that book at my suggestion and we revere this author.)

And now that I've finished the book it is still dif
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Jennifer
Note: this book was a Goodreads First Read

I was intrigued by simply the title of this new book. I had taken an Early American literature class in college and read Sarah Vowell's (highly recommended!)Wordy Shipmates so I was vaguely familiar with Roger Williams and the fact that he was one daring Puritan.

This book was a great treat just to get to know more about Roger Williams, who definitely isn't as well known as an early American as he perhaps should be. One little quibble I have with this boo
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KyBunnies
This book was won in the Goodreads.com First Read giveaway.

This book is only available for pre-order. The release date for this book is set at January 5, 2012

This is a look at how Roger Williams helped to shape and revolutionize religion, political power and individual rights in America.

I do not remember studying about Roger Williams in my American history class in high school. Nor the class I took in college. But This should be one man that a month could and should be devoted to.

The author gi
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Andy Miller
A great biography about a great man with not only great ideas but with the convictions and fortitude to put them into action. Like most of us I learned about Roger Williams in school, how he left the Puritans to found Rhode Island and build a society based on toleration of different religious beliefs

But this book shows that there was much more to his story. Much of its beginning dealt with Williams' mentor, the lawyer Coke and how he laid the foundation for many of our current legal and politica
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Stacey
History - straight history . . . not my typical reading material, but this tome came highly recommended, by an equally avid reader whose opinion I respect. she noted Barry's gift for narrative, how he could take an otherwise dry timeline and tell the story - of nations, government, movements, and individuals. I'm widely read in the area of evangelical Christianity, and thanks to my current position, I'm immersed in the worlds of politics and law. John M. Barry's most recent book, Roger Williams ...more
Pat
My son, Dave, gave me this book because Roger Williams(1603-1683) is one of our lineal ancestors (my dad was named Roger Williams Dean after an aunt discovered the genealogical connection)...but I've never known much about the man, other than he founded Rhode Island.

This is a great book for those who like reading about American History...and is one of the best I've read on the events leading up to the American Revolution and the founding of our country...

...it is an eye-opener. Williams was THE
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Aaron
I've always been intrigued by Roger Williams and his steadfastness regarding the separation of church and state and his founding of Rhode Island. I don't really know why...but his character has always been interesting to me. Anyway, this book is an outstanding look at how Rhode Island, and particularly Roger Williams, withstood the trials and scourges of other colonies, Native American influence, and English intrigues and violence to become the first truly civil society in the world; a model for ...more
Peter Flom
Review: Although I am not an historian, I think I have a reasonable knowledge of American history; yet, before reading this book, I knew nothing of Roger Williams. This is a shame, because he was a key figure in our history.

Williams was a Puritan in 17th century England. He studied under Coke. He fled England for Massachusetts, running from Archbishop Laud, who wanted to torture and imprison him. But then he fled Massachusetts, again fearing torture and imprisonment, this time from his fellow P
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David
We think we live in trying times. How about living in England and the future US during the 1600s? Puritans leave England and set up a "city on a hill" in Massachusetts but the city explicitly ties Church and State: criticizing the State is seen as heresy; not observing religious rules brings on civil penalties. Along comes Roger Williams, well schooled in dealing with royalty and follower of people thinking about Church and State. Meanwhile, back in England the King is also mixing Church and Sta ...more
Todd Stockslager
Review title: The origin of Soul Liberty and the root of the American ideal
Barry, better known for his histories of the 1919 flu epidemic and the 1927 Mississippi flood, here biographizes Founding Grandfather Roger Williams. You may have a vague memory of 10 minutes classroom explication in your early school years and a bleak gray line drawing in a passed down and thumbed over history textbook of a guy trudging though the deep New England snow into Indian territory because he was banished from M
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Ronnie
"The terror of Doubt" ...."the certainty of one being the only that is right.......religious intolerance....religious persecution...political persecution...the carrying over of one's prejudices from one place to another"......I first heard about this book listening to the author being interviewed on WBUR RADIO.....I was captivated by what he had to say.....To say the least...this has been a difficult book to read.. much as the book..."Oregon Trail" by Francis Parkman...( which I keep forgetting ...more
Alan
As the years go by and I read more and more revisionist history--history that seems to be well grounded in old diaries and actual fact, as opposed to 7th grade textbook myths--more and more "heroes" seem to become quite unheroic. Take Christopher Columbus, for example. I am not all that enamored with Abraham Lincoln, for that matter.

It is so refreshing, then, to find true heroes like Samuel Champlain (Champlain's Dreamby David Hackett Fischer and Roger Williams.

John M. Barry has given us a man w
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Gobasso
I wish I could give more stars to this book. In the present day controversies of religion and state few will refer to Roger Williams and that is a shame.
Placing Williams in the history and thought of his time Mr. Barry grounds a thoroughly revolutionary idea in its English and American context. Fascinating to note that Roger Williams used the phrase "separation of church and state" long before Jefferson. Perhaps the one criticism is that Barry leaves the influence or lack thereof of Williams til
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Marie Fouhey
A fascinating account of the development of the idea of the separation of church and state. It's also a really interesting depiction of the troubles Williams had in establishing freedom in Rhode Island, including repeated attempts by Massachusetts Bay and Plymouth to annex his land, troubles caused by the dissidents he allowed to settle in RI, and the repeated trips he had to take back to England in order to establish RI as a separate entity. The author also describes the Puritan problems in Eng ...more
Godlarvae
Although Brother Barry left me in the dust occasionally with the minutiae of historical names and places (thus the "4" rating), he did cement in my mind the importance Brother Williams held of the ideal concerning the individuality of each man and ensuing freedom of each particular idea . . . an outgrowth of his ideas of separation of church and state . . . a serious, and sometimes fatal in ways we would shudder to think of, espousal. He gave his all, living out his final years in poverty, havin ...more
M Christopher
A fascinating and in-depth study of how the theology and political theory of Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island and of the First Baptist Church in America, helped to shape the political and religious questions that drive American ideas to this day.

Barry provides a comprehensive look at the tumultuous times in England and its colonies which forged Williams' unique outlook. He leads the reader through the rivalry of Francis Bacon and Edward Coke (Williams was Coke's protégé but ultimately ado
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John M. Barry is an American author and historian, perhaps best known for his books on the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 the influenza pandemic of 1918and his book on the development of the modern form of the ideas of separation of church and state and individual liberty. His most recent book is Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty (Viking ...more
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“It was a skill useful to lawyers, and no man in all English history was more the lawyer than Coke. He personified a profession considered both so influential and so dubious that in 1372 the House of Commons had tried to bar lawyers from Parliament; little had changed when, in Coke’s lifetime, Shakespeare wrote, “First, kill all the lawyers.” 0 likes
“Coke’s influence was direct, Bacon’s more subtle, but Williams built upon the grounding both provided him, adding his own insights and his own conclusions, leaving a legacy of his own. It would be he, not Thomas Jefferson, who first called for a “wall of separation” to describe the relationship of church and state which both he and Jefferson demanded. It would be he who created the first government in the world that built such a wall. And it would be he who first defined the word “liberty” in modern terms, and saw the relationship between a free individual and the state in a modern way.” 0 likes
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