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Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty

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A revelatory look at how Roger Williams shaped the nature of religion, political power, and individual rights in America.

For four hundred years, Americans have wrestled with and fought over two concepts that define the nature of the nation: the proper relation between church and state and between a free individual and the state. These debates began with the extraordinary t
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Hardcover, 441 pages
Published January 5th 2012 by Viking
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Tony
Dec 16, 2011 Tony rated it really liked it
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We Westerners look at chanting Sunni or Shiite Muslims, filling our CNN screens, vowing death to us certainly, but also to each other and think, what barbarians! And, we think, they have splintered so murderously over such pedantry as right of religious succession or some interpretation of a religious text. What barbarians, indeed.

If you think that, and think we (you) are not like that, especially if you think that because you are Christian, then read this book.

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Emily
Jul 30, 2012 Emily rated it really liked it
You know those moments when you realize that the "history" you've believed in not only isn't the whole story, but perhaps is even completely wrong? Yeah. So, you know how the Puritans risked everything to sail across the ocean and colonize America because they believed in freedom of religion? Actually, they left England because the king and those who led the Church of England demanded complete conformity under pain of torture, dismemberment, and death, and they couldn't, in good conscience, conf ...more
H.
Mar 13, 2012 H. rated it it was amazing
Shelves: non-fiction
If you’re like me, you didn’t know much about Roger Williams before considering this book. Based solely on his status as the founder of Rhode Island, he hardly seems a titan of Anglo history. But Barry makes a very persuasive case that he stands in a direct intellectual lineage from Sir Edward Coke to Williams to John Locke, and that he deserves mention in the same breath as those two titans of the history of liberty. Williams’s contribution was freedom of religion.

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Ken Moten
Jan 10, 2013 Ken Moten rated it really liked it
Recommends it for: Everyone who does not favor living in a theocracy
"I desire not to sleep in security and dream of a Nest which no hand can reach. I can not but expect changes, yet dare I not despise a Liberty, which the Lord seemeth[sic] to offer me if for mine own or others peace." - Roger Williams

Is it allowed to man-crush on 17th century protestant ministers? I didn't think so either but I do have to say I have a new historical hero.

Why do guys like him never make the final cut in history class?! Well I think I can answer that question; Texas won't be tea
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Michael
Aug 19, 2012 Michael rated it it was amazing
I am seriously into historical non-fiction and am always looking for history that is news to me. I first stumbled onto John M. Barry when I was looking for information on the great flu pandemic of 1918 and found Barry's book "The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History." I thought it was just about the pandemic but I found it to be about so much more; the story of the birth of modern medicine. As they say: "he had me at hello" and I've been a Barry fan ever since.

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Thomas Watson
Sep 19, 2015 Thomas Watson rated it it was amazing
Shelves: history
Finished reading Roger Williams and The Creation of the American Soul by John M. Barry yesterday. The book is extraordinary in more than one way, not the least of which is its relevance to current events. I've heard of and seen references to Roger Williams and his role in the early colonization of New England, but this is the first work of any kind dealing with him directly that I've read. While reading the book I was reminded very strongly of the old adage about people who refuse to learn the l ...more
Margaret
Dec 22, 2011 Margaret rated it it was amazing
This is an incredible book! Never have I been so riveted by a history book! I thought that I knew a little bit about our pre- revolutionary war history, having been a prolific reader all my life, but I didn't know anything! I also was not familiar with any of Mr. Barry's other books, but I found out that his other books have won more than 20 awards. In my opinion this book will join them on that list. This book looks at the very beginnings of the conflict over the relationship between the church ...more
Thing Two
When I started this book, I believed the Pilgrims came to the Massachusetts shores because they were seeking freedom of religion; I believed that Thomas Jefferson coined the phrase "a wall of separation"; and I believed that the first amendment was written to keep the church - God/religion, etc. - out of the state. I now know better.

Roger Williams was a Protestant theologian studying under Sir Edward Coke when Coke was imprisoned for ideas in conflict with James I. In order to escape his own imp
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Jay Perkins
One of the most important liberties in the United States has been that of religious freedom. The story of Roger Williams and his fight for what he termed "soul liberty" lay at the root of this freedom. Williams himself was persecuted for his belief in the separation of church and state by the Puritans and Pilgrims who thought that the state should be involved in enforcing church doctrine. There is much here for Christians to learn. What should be our attitude toward state government? Should a na ...more
Janet
Mar 18, 2014 Janet rated it liked it
Thank you John M. Barry. It has been a long time since I have read a book that made me use so much of my brain. I had to get out the dictionary a few times for unfamiliar words. This was a very well researched historical account. I learned a great deal about my country and church. It is amazing that someone's ideas and beliefs still shape current decisions even after 400+ years. I did not remember Roger Williams name from any of my school year's history, but it is evident that he was a great par ...more
Lauren Albert
What I knew about Roger Williams could be summed up in four words: "religious toleration" and "Rhode Island"! But he is a far more interesting and remarkable man than can be summed up so simply. His toleration was astoundingly beyond what even the more tolerant believed in his time. And it was rooted in his belief in human weakness, including his. Error was constant--so how could anyone but God judge others? The state should not judge thoughts and beliefs but acts. And since he believed in an ab ...more
Matthew Richey
I've always liked Roger Williams, but my admiration grew exponentially in reading this book. So much of what we take for granted today in the United States he was a lone voice crying out for it the wilderness. Williams advocated for paying (and he himself paid) "Indians" for land and saw them as full and equal human beings (his friendships with them would later save his life). He argued against the government enforcing the first table of the 10 commandments, advocating "soul liberty". He protect ...more
Pam Johnson
Mar 15, 2012 Pam Johnson rated it really liked it
I majored in US History at a New England college, but this book reminded me of how much more there is to learn about history. I especially appreciated the detailed account of Williams' life in England, which so informed his life in New England. This book would be great read with Mayflower, by Nathaniel Philbrick-- in fact, I may re-read that next!
Joseph Haletky
Sep 01, 2012 Joseph Haletky rated it it was amazing
The author is a college classmate of mine from Brown University in Providence, RI., and I grew up in the Boston area. Thus, both author and subject were of interest to me. Very well written story of one of the more overlooked Founding Fathers.
Ben
In John M. Barry’s 17th-century European and North American world, Roger Williams stands as a pillar of toleration and a lonely advocate of the complete freedom of conscience. Puritanism in the New England colonies is a monolithic block of religious authoritarianism ruled by divinely-empowered magistrates employing various punishments for nonconformity, including banishment, flogging, torture, disfigurement, and execution by hanging. (And burning, too? It’s hard to keep track.) England offers a ...more
Kristen
Nov 18, 2011 Kristen marked it as to-read
I'm so happy to have won this book in the giveaway! Can't wait to receive it and start reading! Thanks!
Vincent
Sep 21, 2015 Vincent rated it really liked it
This is a great book for making one think about history and religion and democracy in the 15th century.

It was slow reading for me in the first third or so likely due to my lack of detailed historical and philosophical depth of understanding. The middle third moved pretty well with the early American activity for Williams - but the last third bogged down again a bit for me due to my lack of biblical knowledge and inexperience with religious philosophies.

That being said this book makes the religio
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Yy
Nov 18, 2011 Yy marked it as to-read
I won this book for free through Goodreads First Reads. Thanks.
Charles Gonzalez
Oct 17, 2015 Charles Gonzalez rated it really liked it
Like many Americans, I had known of Williams for years as the founder of Rhode Island and as somewhat of a critic and thorn in the side of those Puritans in the Bay Colony. I finally read this book by John Barry as an attempt to get to know the real Williams and because the title, focused as it was on the "American Soul" intrigued me. I have read Needleman's book on that topic which examined American history from a spiritual perspective and so dove into Barry's book with great expectation. I am ...more
Jason Reeser
Sep 25, 2014 Jason Reeser rated it really liked it
It is difficult to describe my interest in this book. I saw it at the book store and thought "What an odd subject." Yet at the same time it really intrigued me and I had a feeling it would be a great read. It really helped that it was written by John Barry, the legendary author of "The Great Influenza". (I mean that, by the way, he is legendary around this house. Several of my kids have read that book at my suggestion and we revere this author.)

And now that I've finished the book it is still dif
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Jennifer
Dec 31, 2011 Jennifer rated it really liked it
Note: this book was a Goodreads First Read

I was intrigued by simply the title of this new book. I had taken an Early American literature class in college and read Sarah Vowell's (highly recommended!)Wordy Shipmates so I was vaguely familiar with Roger Williams and the fact that he was one daring Puritan.

This book was a great treat just to get to know more about Roger Williams, who definitely isn't as well known as an early American as he perhaps should be. One little quibble I have with this boo
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KyBunnies
This book was won in the Goodreads.com First Read giveaway.

This book is only available for pre-order. The release date for this book is set at January 5, 2012

This is a look at how Roger Williams helped to shape and revolutionize religion, political power and individual rights in America.

I do not remember studying about Roger Williams in my American history class in high school. Nor the class I took in college. But This should be one man that a month could and should be devoted to.

The author gi
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Andy Miller
Mar 14, 2012 Andy Miller rated it it was amazing
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A great biography about a great man with not only great ideas but with the convictions and fortitude to put them into action. Like most of us I learned about Roger Williams in school, how he left the Puritans to found Rhode Island and build a society based on toleration of different religious beliefs

But this book shows that there was much more to his story. Much of its beginning dealt with Williams' mentor, the lawyer Coke and how he laid the foundation for many of our current legal and politica
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Stacey
Aug 06, 2013 Stacey rated it it was amazing
Shelves: non-fiction
History - straight history . . . not my typical reading material, but this tome came highly recommended, by an equally avid reader whose opinion I respect. she noted Barry's gift for narrative, how he could take an otherwise dry timeline and tell the story - of nations, government, movements, and individuals. I'm widely read in the area of evangelical Christianity, and thanks to my current position, I'm immersed in the worlds of politics and law. John M. Barry's most recent book, Roger Williams ...more
Pat
Sep 30, 2012 Pat rated it really liked it
My son, Dave, gave me this book because Roger Williams(1603-1683) is one of our lineal ancestors (my dad was named Roger Williams Dean after an aunt discovered the genealogical connection)...but I've never known much about the man, other than he founded Rhode Island.

This is a great book for those who like reading about American History...and is one of the best I've read on the events leading up to the American Revolution and the founding of our country...

...it is an eye-opener. Williams was THE
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Aaron
Feb 06, 2013 Aaron rated it really liked it
I've always been intrigued by Roger Williams and his steadfastness regarding the separation of church and state and his founding of Rhode Island. I don't really know why...but his character has always been interesting to me. Anyway, this book is an outstanding look at how Rhode Island, and particularly Roger Williams, withstood the trials and scourges of other colonies, Native American influence, and English intrigues and violence to become the first truly civil society in the world; a model for ...more
Peter Flom
Jun 27, 2015 Peter Flom rated it it was amazing
Shelves: history, bio
Review: Although I am not an historian, I think I have a reasonable knowledge of American history; yet, before reading this book, I knew nothing of Roger Williams. This is a shame, because he was a key figure in our history.

Williams was a Puritan in 17th century England. He studied under Coke. He fled England for Massachusetts, running from Archbishop Laud, who wanted to torture and imprison him. But then he fled Massachusetts, again fearing torture and imprisonment, this time from his fellow P
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David
Feb 22, 2012 David rated it really liked it
Shelves: ebook, ibooks
We think we live in trying times. How about living in England and the future US during the 1600s? Puritans leave England and set up a "city on a hill" in Massachusetts but the city explicitly ties Church and State: criticizing the State is seen as heresy; not observing religious rules brings on civil penalties. Along comes Roger Williams, well schooled in dealing with royalty and follower of people thinking about Church and State. Meanwhile, back in England the King is also mixing Church and Sta ...more
Matt
Oct 21, 2015 Matt rated it it was amazing
I found this to be a thoroughly engrossing trek through America's early colonial era. It vividly recounts events on both sides of the Atlantic during that period, and creates well-defined portraits of Roger Williams and his contemporaries.
ScoLgo
Jan 21, 2016 ScoLgo rated it it was amazing
This book tells a remarkable tale about a remarkable man living during remarkable times. If it wasn't real history, it would read as very compelling historical fiction featuring a larger-than-life protagonist. But it really did happen. After reading his book, I also have little doubt that Barry's interpretation is about as accurate a description as you are likely to find.

Roger Williams was born circa 1603 in England and died in 1683. He is arguably the father of the concept of separating state f
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John M. Barry is an American author and historian, perhaps best known for his books on the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 the influenza pandemic of 1918and his book on the development of the modern form of the ideas of separation of church and state and individual liberty. His most recent book is Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty (Viking ...more
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“Meanwhile, Quakers used outrageous behavior to draw more attention to their beliefs and provoke a response. A Quaker man walked into a Boston church holding a bottle in each hand, then smashed them to the floor; he shouted, “Thus will the Lord break all to pieces!” A Quaker woman stripped herself naked and paraded through the Newbury church during worship. Another Quaker woman paraded nude through the streets of Boston.” 0 likes
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