That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World It Invented and How We Can Come Back
America is in trouble. We face four major challenges on which our future depends, and we are failing to meet them—and if we delay any longer, soon it will be too late for us to pass along the American dream to future generations.
In That Used to Be Us, Thomas L. Friedman, one of our most influential columnists, and Michael Mandelbaum, one of our leading foreign policy thin...more
In That Used to Be Us, Thomas L. Friedman, one of our most influential columnists, and Michael Mandelbaum, one of our leading foreign policy thin...more
ebook, 400 pages
Published
September 5th 2011
by Farrar, Straus and Giroux
(first published January 1st 2011)
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A perceptive and informative book, while at the same time frightening. Tom Friedman (forget his liberal bent) is a rational and broad-based writer. His access to sources is unique and he is a keen observer, mixing both statistics and anecdotes. If anything he should be faulted for what he leaves out. The book is an analysis of how the good old USA got into this mess. Firstly this is not the first time the nation has been threatened. The analysis of the present is discouraging as long term proble...more
Thomas Friedman has been pushing a consistent thesis for the past several years. Beginning in 1999 with The Lexus and the Olive Tree, Friedman has concluded that a convergence of the IT revolution, global warming, and the clash of ancient and modern cultures has brought about a sort of “tipping point” in modern history – a point in which nations and individuals either get control of globalization or lose control altogether. That Used to Be Us continues Friedman’s themes from his previous works,...more
Some good thoughts about what is and is not working in America, but an awful lot of "kids these days" sort of talk, too. The authors' fetishization of Asia is also troubling. Having worked closely with Asian students for more than 10 years now, I would say that a large proportion of their vaunted higher educational attainment is either purchased or cheated, not earned. That is not to say that we have nothing to learn from Asian methods of pedagogy, or that they are not in fact "beating" us in te...more
Let me start by saying that, as a moderate/centrist, I really loved this book! I believe, as the authors do, that neither Democrats are right thinking that the government is the solution to every problem, or that Republicans are right thinking the government is the cause to every problem. The authors are correct in their assertion that we must come together and act collectively, taking the best ideas of both philosophies, if we intend to improve America. The authors nailed it on the head when th...more
I like the authors' points but the narrator makes me insane. He pronounces "December 17" as "December seventeen" instead of "December seventeenth." Much worse, he pronounces "0.15" as "point fifteen" and so forth with any decimal in the text. This in a book bemoaning the Usan war on math and physics, and even when decimal is "point twenty," no one in the production realized that 0.2 and 0.20 are the same. Also he pronounces the first syllable of "steroids" as "steer" instead of "stare."
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A book that addresses the problems of our political system and offers solutions that are credible. It is a shame that our elected leaders from both parties do not realize the troubled road we are on and that the solutions, although initially painful, will in the long run prop us up for sustained greatness. That is what I want, public servants who have can address the short and long term for our country. I liked the fact that they advocated for third parties to run in order to keep the extremists...more
I found this book quite interesting. We all know that our country (the USA) is messed up and our politicians on many levels would rather spend money we don't have to continue along the path of the status quo, rather than make the hard decisions to implement policies to fix our long term problems, because they are more worried about staying in office than making our country better. The authors provide many ideas to fix our problems, but many of their solutions require Democrats and Republicans to...more
One the one hand, this is more of the same stuff from Thomas Friedman. A continuation of sorts of what he's been up to for some time, preaching the gospel of globalism and warning America of the dangers of ignoring it.
However, this volume really struck a chord with me. His assertion that America has forgotten it's proven formula for greatness - the "blended" economy of free markets and sensible but necessary Government involvment, especially in education, basic research funding, and financial re...more
However, this volume really struck a chord with me. His assertion that America has forgotten it's proven formula for greatness - the "blended" economy of free markets and sensible but necessary Government involvment, especially in education, basic research funding, and financial re...more
My husband and I listened to all 17 hours of this audiobook on a car trip from NY to Chattanooga, TN and back again. In Chattanooga we had the pleasure of hearing Thomas Friedman talking about the book at the Tivoli Theater, to a packed house that I took as affirmation of the hunger of Americans to fix what's clearly "broke" in our country.
Friedman and Mandelbaum talk, optimistically but challengingly, about where America is today and how to re-establish our primacy in the world that we invente...more
Friedman and Mandelbaum talk, optimistically but challengingly, about where America is today and how to re-establish our primacy in the world that we invente...more
This book took a while to get into, especially as it's introduction to the paperback included homage to the Clint Eastwood "Halftime in America" Superbowl commercial, which is now washed over by his halfwit comedy act from the Republican Convention.
Anyway, Friedman and Mandlebaum put together a book that is a little light on detail at times, but really heavy on a breadth of global anecdotes and ideas to move our country forward -- I dogeared a lot of pages to investigate further.
I predict it w...more
Anyway, Friedman and Mandlebaum put together a book that is a little light on detail at times, but really heavy on a breadth of global anecdotes and ideas to move our country forward -- I dogeared a lot of pages to investigate further.
I predict it w...more
Lots of food for thought, whether you agree with the conclusions and prescriptions or not. The question in my mind today is, "How can we even get people to acknowledge the problems and work (together) to solve them?
Of course, if we don't solve the climate change problem-quickly-the rest might not matter. The book makes this point clearly.
Downers? Sure. I disagree with the "presctiptions" for education, for one, but programs with some successes do make good models and good starting points. It bu...more
Of course, if we don't solve the climate change problem-quickly-the rest might not matter. The book makes this point clearly.
Downers? Sure. I disagree with the "presctiptions" for education, for one, but programs with some successes do make good models and good starting points. It bu...more
Really compelling book. The first 80% of it is a damning exploration of how the US has lost its way - educationally and politically, primarily. This part of the book highlights how America has failed to keep up with the rest of the world in science and math education, and how politicians - left and right - insist on making up their own facts to suit their ideology, science and research notwithstanding. (One of my favorite observations: in one study, "49% of US adults do not know how long it take...more
I've read "The World is Flat" and "Hot, Flat & Crowded" before. Both books are masterpieces of Thomas Friedman. This new book "That Used to be Us" is actually an extension or a review of the previous two books. As a fan of Thomas Friedman, this new book is really a disappointing one.
Thomas has a style of writings to list his key ideas. This is a good writing style as I don't like to read in a great detail. In this book, Tom talks about four major challenges faced by the US, education, dome...more
Thomas has a style of writings to list his key ideas. This is a good writing style as I don't like to read in a great detail. In this book, Tom talks about four major challenges faced by the US, education, dome...more
Back in the early 1990's America became obsessed with its rapidly diminishing lead against an Asian country which seemed to be leagues better at business, education, manufacturing and government. Because it would soon become the number one global economy, it's "Theory Z" management practices received our deep study and admiration. The U.S.'s management practices and slack relative educational standards became a source of national shame compared to a country that seemed to do everything right. So...more
An informative book on the condition of America, anemic, in the areas of education, economy, political unity for common good, and environment. The authors brush across all these areas with recent facts of what is causing anemia. There are various areas I think the authors failed to fully explain to the general reader who is not tuned in on all the impacts these topics have on American society.
As an expample in the education arena the authors fail to engage the educational organizations and unio...more
As an expample in the education arena the authors fail to engage the educational organizations and unio...more
I very disappointing in Friedman's discussion of education. Sure, good teachers are important but measuring good teaching is still next to impossible. I was shocked that Friedman praised the governor of Colorado's plan to remove the protection of tenure in the same section where he wrote about the importance of critical thinking.
What does Friedman think is going to happen to teachers when their students ask critical questions? They will be fired immediately. Putting principals in charge of the...more
What does Friedman think is going to happen to teachers when their students ask critical questions? They will be fired immediately. Putting principals in charge of the...more
Jan 10, 2012
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While reading this book, it's very hard not to feel overwhelmed. It's not just that the United States faces a single, all-consuming problem; it faces dozens, if not hundreds of them. There's not very much that's going right in America these days; from our failing schools to dismal unemployment rate to crumbling infrastructure, we barely resemble the global super power that confidently dominated world events after WWII. And even if these problems were easy to solve, our current gridlocked politic...more
Jan 05, 2012
Michael
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The American People!
I will be the first to admit that I am a fan of Friedman. The authors did a good job of trying to stay in the center of the aisle, but believe that they ultimately are a little to the left. To be honest, I don't really care what one's political views are, but rather that we are working together to better America in general.
The authors brought to light the four following issues that are discussed in further detail consistently throughout the book: Globalization, the Information Technology (IT) Re...more
The authors brought to light the four following issues that are discussed in further detail consistently throughout the book: Globalization, the Information Technology (IT) Re...more
That Used To Be Us was written by Thomas L. Friedman (a New York Times columnist) and Michael Mandelbaum (Director of Foreign Policy at Johns Hopkins). That Used To Be Us is a call to action. It's a bucket of cold water meant to wake up Americans and get them to see what's really happened to our country. Friedman and Mandelbaum take a look at four challenges that our country is facing: globalization, the revolution in information technology, the nation's chronic deficits and our pattern of exces...more
This book talks about four Major Challenges:
How to adapt to globalization
How to adjust to the Information Technology (IT) revolution
How to cope with the large and soaring budget deficits stemming from the growing demands on government at every level
How to manage a world of both rising energy consumption and rising climate threats
The authors at times are balanced in their analysis but tend to lean left of center favoring progressive solutions. They note the impact of lobbying and the role of publ...more
How to adapt to globalization
How to adjust to the Information Technology (IT) revolution
How to cope with the large and soaring budget deficits stemming from the growing demands on government at every level
How to manage a world of both rising energy consumption and rising climate threats
The authors at times are balanced in their analysis but tend to lean left of center favoring progressive solutions. They note the impact of lobbying and the role of publ...more
I'm not sure it is fair to compare US education scores with other countries, I've never been convinced that it isn't the apple and oranges game. Reading this book I think there are many apples and oranges brought to the front. The United States is not at this time the captain of industry and energy production; it will no longer be the captain of space exploration; and it will certainly never again be the leader in anything other than video games -- in a breath real and in a thought impossible. T...more
An excellent look at the America of the future. Like several other books written by Thomas Friedman this particular book looks at the things America needs to correct and soon if we want to remain a prosperous and free nation. Although like many reviewers I think the author's bent towards liberal views to solve most of these problems are sometimes off base; he is correct in noting that none of this can get done with strict party partisanship and the lack of a third more moderate vision for Americ...more
That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World it Invented and How We Can Come Back by Thomas L. Friedman and Michael Mandelbaum
“That Used to Be Us” is the thought-provoking and topical book about the steep economical challenges that America faces. The authors take a systematic approach on what ails America and what can be done to cure it. This 400-page book is broken out in five parts: Part I. The Diagnosis, Part II. The Education Challenge, Part. III. The War on Math and Physics, Par...more
“That Used to Be Us” is the thought-provoking and topical book about the steep economical challenges that America faces. The authors take a systematic approach on what ails America and what can be done to cure it. This 400-page book is broken out in five parts: Part I. The Diagnosis, Part II. The Education Challenge, Part. III. The War on Math and Physics, Par...more
"Unscathed by the great disruptions, unburdened by the necessity of great sacrifice, unpressured by the daily effort of confronting a huge global predator... the baby boom generation has in too many cases displayed too little fiscal prudence, too much political partisanship, and too short a sense of history to engage in the collective nation-building at home that America badly needs today."
In summary, the message is clear: Dear Baby Boomers, you fucked up big time. Please fix it before the situa...more
In summary, the message is clear: Dear Baby Boomers, you fucked up big time. Please fix it before the situa...more
Full disclosure: I'm a big Thomas Friedman fan. I think he has a lot of interesting things to say and a lot of good ideas. I'm less familiar with Michael Mandelbaum although some of his books are now on my TBR based on what he discussed in this book.
Anyhow, I really liked this book. The authors start out with talking about how we've kind of lost our way as a country. We've had a lot of things (such as the recession) thrust upon us but we've sort of gotten lazy too. The book opens with a story a...more
Anyhow, I really liked this book. The authors start out with talking about how we've kind of lost our way as a country. We've had a lot of things (such as the recession) thrust upon us but we've sort of gotten lazy too. The book opens with a story a...more
Samuel Johnson famously said of Milton’s “Paradise Lost” that no one ever wished it longer. For me, Thomas Friedman and his various permutations on the “world-is-flat” theme has shrieked us into an ennui where a lost paradise might be an improvement on enduring a "groundhog day" of Friedman’s flippant remedies.
After having picked up and put down, in favor for multiple other reading choices, it has taken me nearly four months to finish his latest – “That Used to be Us”. Not that it is long in ter...more
After having picked up and put down, in favor for multiple other reading choices, it has taken me nearly four months to finish his latest – “That Used to be Us”. Not that it is long in ter...more
The first book I read by Thomas Friedman was his Pulitzer Prize-winning book on the Middle East, titled "From Beirut to Jerusalem." Before that, I read his columns whenever they appeared in the Cincinnati Enquirer, and now his other books, such as "The World is Flat" and "The Lexus and the Olive Tree," are on my list of books of read. This latest book, co-written with Michael Mandelbaum, the director of American Foreign Policy at the Johns Hopkins School of International Studies, is an excellent...more
This was a very good book; I agree 100% with their arguments.. I disagree with some of the approaches to resolving their arguments, but many times I do disagree with these author(s) being a conservative.. That said the authors' books are always informative good reads, thus I read enjoy reading them.. This book continuous the authors trend of good books, it is a very interesting book, and I enjoyed the read very much..
The part of the book that I enjoyed the most was education chapters, as how the...more
The part of the book that I enjoyed the most was education chapters, as how the...more
Once you get past all the cliches and bumper sticker slogans, Tom again has a good book. I was a huge fan of world is flat but only kinda liked hot flat and crowded. This book is kind of the love child of both (but not exactly). Although I don't agree with a lot of his politics, he hits the nail on the head with education and business. For some reason people just don't seem to get that the world and business has shifted for good. You don't need lots of people to make lots of money anymore and as...more
Required reading for all 21st-century American citizens. It is sobering to realize the manifold conditions, causes and factors (both internal as well as external) of our current decline as a world leader. But, being honest about our dismal circumstances is an opportunity to do things differently and that is the premise of this book by Thomas Friedman (The World is Flat) and Michael Mandelbaum (The Ideas that Conquered the World). Recovery is possible and acceptance is the 1st step.
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Thomas Lauren Friedman is an American journalist. He is an op-ed contributor to The New York Times, whose column appears twice weekly and mainly addresses topics on foreign affairs. Friedman is known for supporting a compromise resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, modernization of the Arab world, environmentalism and globalization. He is considered to be a pluralist and most of his comm...more
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