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Masa Depan Tuhan: Sanggahan terhadap Fundamentalisme dan Ateisme

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“Tugas agama, sangat mirip dengan seni, yakni membantu kita hidup secara kreatif, damai, dan bahkan gembira dengan kenyataan-kenyataan yang tidak mudah dijelaskan dan masalah-masalah yang tidak bisa kita pecahkan.”

Setelah melacak perkembangan konsepsi manusia tentang Sang Pencipta dalam Sejarah Tuhan, kini Karen Armstrong menampilkan kajian tentang masa depannya. Dalam buk
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Published May 2011 by Mizan Pustaka (first published January 1st 2001)
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William
With all of the wars, crusades, inquisitions, witch trials, Jihadists, Creationists and the rest of it, God has got a lot to answer for. Armstrong's case for the defence is essentially that people are interpreting religion wrongly: to the founders of the religions faith was about mystery, symbolism, practice and good works. Early Christians, Armstrong argues, looked to the scriptures for inspiration not information, and would be shocked at what religion has become for many people today.

The case
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Warwick
Poor Karen Armstrong has been ploughing a lonely furrow in recent years, trying to show that there is a valid Third Way between increasingly defensive religious groups and increasingly forthright ‘new atheists’. Neither side thinks much of her. For those of us a bit more detached from the arguments, she often seems like the only one talking any sense.

Her main problem can best be summarised by saying that she and I share almost identical views on religion, and yet I would call myself an atheist w
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William
Armstrong is a scholar of comparative religion. In numerous examples here, she shows how worship in virtually all world religions depends on a foundation of silence, or what she calls unknowing. This is the silence through which one gets intimations of the divine presence. I found the description remarkably like two kinds of Eastern meditation I have practiced over the years. There was no presumption on the part of early theists that they could grasp God. He was beyond human comprehension. Since ...more
Mohamed Osman
من الصعب أن تكتب تعليق مناسب لهذا الكتاب نظرا لضخامة كم المعلومات التي يحتويها والتي يصعب مراجعتها ،بالإضافة إلي القضية التي يتناولها و التي يقترب عمرها من عمر الإنسان علي هذه الأرض .

نستطيع أن نقسم الكتاب نصفين النصف الأول خاص بنشوء الوجود الآلهي في الفكر الإنساني وكيفية تطوره وخاصه عبر الديانة المسيحية واليهودية ، بينما يناقش النصف الثاني الاله الحديث وتداخل العلم مع الإيمان وهل مات الاله حقا أم لا .

النصف الأول لم أعجب به مثل النصف الثاني من الكتاب لكن من المؤكد لي أن الجزء الأول لن ينال رضا أو
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Ginny
I'm not going to lie; this was a slog. A breath-taking overview of western religious culture going back to ancient French cave paintings and mentioning every major philosopher, theologian, and scientist since (as well as quite a few minor ones). This reads like a seminary dissertation. Initially I was bored to tears. But in the end, all that history culminates in a forceful argument in favor of the author's premise (as far as I can tell, though I suspect I'm not educated enough in theology or ph ...more
jordan
Can I really be the only person who finds Karen Armstrong, the author of fifteen books on religion, writing in her latest that one cannot comment on the divine with words but only with silence, more than a little ironic?

To be fair, Armstrong does offer several interesting insights. Her effort to find universal "truths" that run across faiths is worthwhile and thought provoking. One might even imagine that there are many members of exclusivist faiths for whom this would be a revelation, though on
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Mehrsa
I would probably say that this is one of the best books I have ever read--certainly the most important. But also the most dense and difficult to read. It took me about 2 months (and I usually can get through books in a week or two max). I always read this book with a pencil and I think there are whole pages or sections in my book that are underlined. However, this book is not for everyone. If you cannot accept some gray in your religious belief or don't want to read something that will likely ch ...more
Shel
I was enticed to read The Case for God after hearing a snippet of the book on NPR that told how mystics of the past reached for God in silence, ritually acknowledging the inadequacy of words to describe deity. Afterwards, an interviewer questioned Armstrong on her views. She promptly corrected him. "It's not just a bee in my bonnet. I've been studying this for 20 years." I was hooked, curious to hear more from Armstrong.

My enjoyment of the work was no doubt enhanced because I listened to the au
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Si Barron
This book can be read in two ways, either as a confused counterblast to Dawkins or as a plea to others of faith to adapt their religious practice and adopt her rather peculiar (almost Atheistic) religious stance.

As other reviewers have noticed this seems at first glance to promise a detailed rebuttal of Dawkins, et al - the derivative cover and blurbs encourage this. Armstrong does eventually get onto this task in the last chapters but first we have to plough through millennia of Christian histo
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Jon Stout
The Case for God by Karen Armstrong sounds like a religious apologetic or polemic tract, but it is not that at all. It takes a much more detached and scholarly viewpoint, and could function as a history or survey of how people think about God. I approached it from the context of a faith vs. scientific method debate that I have carried on for years with some of my friends, but one could also approach the topic out of a concern with the dangers of religious fundamentalism, or out of an interest in ...more
Scott Hotes
Armstrong makes a compelling argument against what has been called the "new atheism". Debunking the use of a literal interpretation of the Bible as something wholly modern and something that would be completely surprising and foreign to followers of the Christian faith up until at least the Enlightenment, she argues that instead religion is not an intellectual concept or dogma, but rather it is something you do. That without an active involvement, religion loses its essential value.

I find this t
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صفاء فضلاوي
أعتبر هذا الكتاب من بين الكتب المهمة التي تحدثت عن الله وتاريخ اللاهوت
فقد رصدت الكاتبة تاريخ ظهور الدين وفكرة الإله منذ العصور القديمة لحد العصور الحديثة.

الاقتبسات التي أعجبتني:

الإلحاد في رأي جوليان باجيني : التزام صريح دون تحفظ بالحقيقة والبحث والتساؤل العقلاني ولذا فمعارضة معتقدات الآخرين وإظهار العداء والبغض لهم مع قناعة لدرجة التشبت بصحة ما يعتقد به الشخص من آراء مناقض تماما لقيم الإلحاد.


أصر ديكارت، أولا، على أن على المفكر تفريغ عقله من كل ما اعتقد أنه يعرفه، عليه، هكذا أخبر نفسه ألا "أتق
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Wade
My favorite book so far. Armstrong captures my feelings for the importance of both Mythos and Logos in life. This was a great historical overview of religion and spirituality. Reading this book has given me a greater appreciation for all church fathers (and mothers) throughout history; Moses, Abraham, Rabbi Hillel, Jesus, Peter, Gregory, Basil, Francis of Assisi, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Muhammad, Siddhartha, Lehi, Moroni, Constantine, Descartes, Copernicus, Newton, ...more
Phyllis Duncan
If this were a text book for a comparative religion course, I'd likely give it four or five stars, but Armstrong states that she wrote this tome to counter recent books by atheists Hitchens, Dawkins, and Harris. I'd suggest, then, she actually read their work instead of basing her research on sound bites from Fox News. So-called modern atheists don't seek to tear down religion or suppress others' beliefs. We simply don't want those beliefs forced on us at every turn, in public, in private, and, ...more
Judy
I had never heard of Karen Armstrong until I happened upon the debate in the Wall Street Journal between Armstrong and Richard Dawkins. Very interesting arguments on both sides were presented in that debate. Then out of the blue, my friend, Samatha, mentioned how much she likes Armstrong's books. So I thought that I would give one a try. I loved this book. Rather than a set of arguments, bolstered by "experts" in the field who agreed with her such as was the situation in The Case for Christ by L ...more
Bradley
Oct 10, 2009 Bradley rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Anyone who's looking for enlightenment.
By probably the best known contemporary religious scholar in the world today and a former nun, this book was even better than Robert Wright's book. A welcome antidote to fundamentalists of all persuasions. A great writer who is able to articulate the story of the evolving concept of God, showing that "She" is not who we think She is, while giving just the right dosage of scholarship to this book and the perspective of real authority without bashing anybody's religion or lack thereof. It reminds ...more
Bob Nichols
Citing the Greeks, Armstrong's argument begins by stating that there are two realms of knowing. One is through "mythos" and the other is through "logos". The former allows us to access ultimate meaning, something logos can't do as it involves pragmatic reason related to survival. She calls ultimate reality God, but she is clear that God is not a being at all. In rejecting God as a personalized deity, she aligns her thought with that of Tillich ("God above God") and others (e.g., Heidegger's Bein ...more
Jean
I must confess that I did not finish this book. Unfortunately every time I tried to read it I felt as if I was undertaking a degree in Theology. It is extremely heavy-going.

Karen Armstrong has written numerous books on comparative religion, and is one of this country's leading writers on the subject. This is a detailed chronicle of faith through the ages, to demonstrate her assertion that atheism has never been lack of belief in the sacred, but always a rejection of a particular conception of Go
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Philip Cartwright
Don't be fooled by the title; this is not some trite attempt to prove that God exists or that religion is a great thing. Instead, it's a tremendous, sweeping yet detailed account of the changing conception of religion from the dawn of humanity to the present day. Along the way, Armstrong stresses several themes.

For millennia religion was not seen primarily as a series of propositions to which one was required to assent ("God exists", etc). Instead, it was a commitment to a particular way of livi
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Jafar
I thought my review of this book would be about how persuasive I did or did not find Armstrong’s arguments about God. But there’s not much to agree or disagree with in this book. It’s almost entirely history – mostly history of Christianity and its development. Armstrong is obviously very well-read and learned in her subject matter, but I felt she was being downright deceitful by naming this book The Case for God. Most people would expect something else of a book with this title. Armstrong alrea ...more
James
This is the best book on God that I've read so far. Karen Armstrong describes the premodern Abrahamic God, inconceivable and transcendent. Armstrong also educates her readers about the nature of the Scriptures. Apparently neither their authors nor the early theologians wanted them to be taken as literal or static, but rather as allegories that point to the Inconceivable and as objects of never-ending commentary and interpretation. Then she describes the development of the modernist God of the We ...more
Ryan
I've read a few of Armstrong's books, but it was many years ago. I came to this one by accident - I was sitting next to a gentlemen on a flight and he was reading it. I'm certainly glad I picked it up.

Based upon the title, I though the book was going to be a plea of standard conversion to Christianity, which was surprising from what I know about Armstrong's own struggles. But it was much different than that - Armstrong is trying to make a case for a different conception of God than the one conta
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Aasem Bakhshi
Overall, a very lucid and readable book. Armstrong's case is primarily built against the newage militant atheist as well as postmodern religious fundamentalist but in doing so she obscures further - perhaps inadvertently - the nature of ultimate reality we call God.

She successfully traces back the roots of post-renaissance apophatic theological shift in antiquity and medieval religion. However, her version of God presents another problematic of reducing God to a mere abstract symbol or a set of
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Sky
I enjoyed this book, but I'm not sure that I'm educated enough on some of the historic aspects of the various religions to judge it's accuracy or conclusions. However, at a minimum, I found it to be a fairly convincing and academic rebuttal to the radical atheism of Hitchens, Dawkins, etc.

It is a very long and in-depth read. Do not pick this up if you are looking for something casual. There are also a few spots where it really felt like it was dragging, but that could have had something to do w
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Matthew
The Case for God provides a great survey of the history of religious thought since Christ and puts in context the polarized fundamentalism and atheism of today. As someone who has never taken a religion course or read much about theology I found The Case for God to be very enlightening and thought provoking. The book at times is a dense read, particularly in the first half, but gains momentum as it progresses to modern times. For those not interested in devoting the time to reading the entire bo ...more
Mohamed Aboulazm
أعد هذا الكتاب من أروع الكتب التى قرأتها فى تتبع تاريخ الله والأديان، وفي نقد الأصولية والإلحاد. الكاتبة تملك من أدوات المعرفة الكثير، وتعرف كيف تستخدم أدواتها لعرض الأفكار بصورة واضحة وميسرة، رغم أن الأفكار التى تناقشها تبدو معقدة، فمن نظريات الإيمان البدائية حتى نظرية موت الإله ثم إله مابعد الحداثة، وهى أمور معقدة وأضاع الفلاسفة أعمارهم لشرحها، ومع ذلك تمكنت كارن أرمسترونج من عرض هذه الأفكار وتتبعها وتقديم رؤية جديدة للإله وللأديان.
رؤية تدعو للسلام ونبذ العنف، للروحانية وليس التعصب، للعقلانية
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Delany
Wonderful work of scholarship, as usual, from Karen Armstrong; very well-written, interesting and enjoyable. Armstrong is no longer the skeptic that she was in her earlier years as a writer, and this book is in part an effort to persuade the reader that the value of any religion cannot be found by looking objectively at its dogmatic and doctrinal claims, but only through the practice of the religion, especially its rituals. She also makes a good effort at setting out the argument for what is ess ...more
Pera
Apr 28, 2014 Pera rated it 2 of 5 stars
Shelves: agama
Wuiiih...memang buku berat

berat karena tebal
berat karena isi

sebelum hilang, ada beberapa hal yang harus distabilo:


Bab 1 : Homo Religiosus
---di banyak bagian dunia, bulan secara simbolis dihubungkan dengan sejumlah fenomena yang ternyata tidak terkait: perempuan, air, vegeasi, ular dan kesuburan. Apa yang sama diantara mereka semua adalah daya hidup regeneratif yang dapat memperbarui diri sendiri...(hal 59)

*I love it. tuh kan...perempuan itu special :D*

Bab 2 : Tuhan
---agama israel kuno pada masa
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Cheryl Gatling
You see that stack of books on the cover? That's what you're in for. Karen Armstrong has read just about everything every written on the history of religion, from the beginning of time until now, and she is going to share it with you. The book is dense, and at times dry. Fortunately, when Armstrong has a point, she repeats it, so you can remember. Here are her points. Today's atheists reject a concept of God that is not correct. Many of today's believers support a concept of God that is not corr ...more
Kelli Pearson
This is the kind of nonfiction I usually don't like to read--nonskimmable, rather heavy topic (uh, yeah, GOD..), not exactly a "get lost in a good story" kind of book. But unexpectedly it had me from the prologue, and continues to pull me along, wanting to read more and more. Armstrong's writing is knowledgable but accessible, and she takes you step by step through the cultural additions of ideas we have pasted on to the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament over the years: our literalistic take on ...more
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“Jewish, Christian, and Muslim theologians have insisted for centuries that God does not exist and that there is 'nothing' out there; in making these assertions, their aim was not to deny the reality of God but to safeguard God's transcendence.” 11 likes
“The new atheists show a disturbing lack of understanding of or concern about the complexity and ambiguity of modern experience, and their polemic entirely fails to mention the concern for justice and compassion that, despite their undeniable failings, has been espoused by all three of the monotheisms.

Religious fundamentalists also develop an exagerrated view of their enemy as the epitome of evil. This tendency makes critique of the new atheists too easy. They never discuss the work of such theologians as Bultmann or Tillich, who offer a very different view of religion and are closer to mainstream tradition than any fundamentalist. Unlike Feurerbach, Marx and Freud, the new atheists are not theologically literate. As one of their critics has remarked, in any military strategy it is essential to confront the enemy at its strongest point; failure to do so means that their polemic remains shallow and lacks intellectual depth. It is also morally and intellectually conservative. Unlike Feurerback, Marx, Ingersoll or Mill, these new Atheists show little concern about the poverty, injustice and humiliation that has inspired many of the atrocities they deplore; they show no yearning for a better world. Nor, like Nietzsche , Sartre or Camus, do they compel their readers to face up to the pointlessness and futility that ensue when people lack the resources to create a sense of meaning. They do not appear to consider the effect of such nihilism on people who do not have privileged lives and absorbing work.”
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