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The Wild Palms: [If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem]

3.86 of 5 stars 3.86  ·  rating details  ·  2,386 ratings  ·  159 reviews
In this feverishly beautiful novel—originally titled If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem by Faulkner, and now published in the authoritative Library of America text—William Faulkner interweaves two narratives, each wholly absorbing in its own right, each subtly illuminating the other. In New Orleans in 1937, a man and a woman embark on a headlong flight into the wilderness of illi ...more
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Published May 18th 2011 by Vintage (first published 1939)
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Ginny_1807
Grandioso.
La singolarità della struttura, unita al virtuosismo dello stile, rischia di mettere a dura prova il lettore meno paziente.
Tuttavia se si entra nel meccanismo e ci si lascia prendere dal ritmo solenne e dal realismo visionario di queste storie, ci si rende conto di trovarsi di fronte a un’opera insolita e di grande valore.
I due romanzi che la compongono, narrati a capitoli alterni, si snodano parallelamente percorrendo luoghi e tempi diversi.
All’apparenza non hanno nulla in comune,
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Guido
Due racconti, separati e distinti, si dividono la singolare struttura alternata di questo romanzo. Avrei voluto trovare un motivo, un collegamento inequivocabile tra le due vicende; purtroppo non sono stato sufficientemente attento. È stata una lettura molto amara: non mi sentivo testimone, ma vittima dei pensieri e delle azioni dei protagonisti; della duplicità della narrazione, che trovavo sleale nei miei confronti; degli eventi, che non riuscivo a confinare tra le pagine. Per queste ragioni n ...more
Mat
Greatest Faulkner book I have read so far! Fan-bloody-tastic. I liked this even better than Absalom! Absalom! And it was much easier to follow.

The Wild Palms is a novel which actually consists of two different stories. Faulkner decided to interweave two different stories to build each respective story more towards its climax. Faulkner actually wanted to call this novel If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem but his editors insisted on calling it The Wild Palms, the title of ONE of the two stories in this n
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Matthew
There he is, the Old Man, the river that is something of a deity in the American South. The muddy water that threatens and nurtures and has a will and a force that can not be predicted or tamed, even in our time.

In this book you have a prisoner struggling against the whims of the Mississippi. Convicts are enlisted to rescue stranded peasants. A tall convict is asked if he can row a boat, he says he can, probably because he doesn't know what he is promising. The point is made that this convict al
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Bastet
Me ha costado mucho terminarla, de hecho la abandoné antes de llegar a la mitad, y, la verdad, no entiendo por qué la crítica considera esta novela la obra maestra de Faulkner. Supongo que no estoy preparada para apreciar las virtudes de este escritor. Desde el principio pensé que el hecho de que se alternaran dos historias tan diferentes entre sí cobraría sentido al final, cuando ambas convergiesen al coincidir los dos hombres, el médico y el fugado, en la misma cárcel; pero no solo no ocurre e ...more
Eddie Watkins
Charley Patton's 2-part song "High Water Everywhere" is about the same flood portrayed in this book. This little factoid, realized after I finished the book, made me swoon.

I couldn't finish the book the first time I tried, as I was in college and still thought in the back of my head that my girlfriend and I could just drop out and "live on love". The impossibility of this strategy so hammered home in this book really frightened me at the time, but instead of finishing the book and learning my le
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Reid
Initial review:
Wow. Empathize this: a woman dashes away from her two children and husband for "freedom" and dysfunctional "love", even, or especially, when it means living hand to mouth. A "doctor" relinquishes his freedom for her and risks his life for that shadowy bond that may enable his escape from life and responsibility. And a convict is tossed about on the raging flooding Mississippi, yet constrained to act morally and ethically, simultaneously rising above, and being restrained by, his s
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Kay Wright
I'm an Faulkner addict, slogged my way through Abaslom, Absalom, and fell in love with Light in August. When our bookclub decided to each do a classic, I found this early piece that I had missed during my quest to read all Faulkner. (I got into the early Hollywood junk and gave up but that's another story.) If I Forget Thee Jerusalem, which was published as the Wild Palms over WF's objections, is two stories that never intertwine. I had read one of them, the convict who rescues the pregant woman ...more
Steve
This is a Faulkner must-read, but not without some problems. "Wild Palms" is as modernist a novel as anything by Virginia Woolf. The alternating stories - which seem to have no surface relationship whatsoever, is daring and artsy stuff. But does it work? The "Wild Palms" portion tells the story of two lovers, one who is married, who cast everything to the wind in order to live a bohemian life devoted to Love. I noticed one reviewer commented that theirs was a selfless love. Quite the contrary. O ...more
Aprile
Lievi anticipazioni (non più comunque di quanto appaia nel risguardo)
Generalmente prima di iniziare un nuovo libro, lo sfoglio, lo soppeso, ne leggo il risguardo - per la precisione - lo rileggo. La prima lettura era già avvenuta all'acquisto ma questa nuova è fondamentale per le precedenze, mi deve colpire in quel momento particolare in modo da indicarmi il libro da iniziare. In questo caso, però, tale lettura è stata nociva. Mi ha distratto dal godimento spontaneo del testo. Il lettore viene a
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Margarida
"Palmeiras Bravas" inicia-se quase no final da história de amor, brutal história de amor entre Harry Wilbourne e Charlotte Rittenmeyer, ela que abandonara marido e as duas pequenas filhas, ele virgem até aos vinte e sete anos, não sabendo, até aquela altura, o que era amar.
Um amor trágico, sofrido, entre uma mulher forte, que se recusa a ser mãe e quando ela o força, as consequências são catastróficas.
Pontuado por longas e complexas frases, não deixa de ser um romance fascinante, embora algo di
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Julia Boechat Machado
Um dos livros mais conhecidos de Faulkner, em parte pela frase "Given the choice between the experience of pain and nothing, I would choose pain." Formado por duas novelas entrelaçadas.
carrie
This is a very famous flood that is referenced in many novels, this book is referenced in the book my boyfriend was reading just after I finished this one. That book is: "Hellfire: The Jerry Lee Lewis Story" by Nick Tosches

What eloquence. I can't wait to read more faulkner. His sentences were mesmerizing in length and thought and still this small novel tied two stories together so well. Like the flooded tributaries of the Mississippi, so is this book on my mind.

Its theme of struggle the current
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Isis
My mother asked me what I thought of it, and mentioned that she thought it sounded kind of "steamy" from the GoodReads summary, so this started out as a comment on her comment and then turned into a general commentary/review so I thought it would make more sense to just make my official comment lol.

I thought it was excellent. there's not really a lot of explicit sex in it, so i wouldn't call it steamy so much as "shocking" in the context of the times. there's a mention of using a douche, there'
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Rick
Two tales told in alternate chapters, one of which is titled “The Wild Palms,” the other “Old Man.” Faulkner’s preferred title for the novel, If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem was over-ruled by his publisher. “The Wild Palms” tells the story of a young doctor and his artist girlfriend who abandon their previous lives (he an intern, she a wife, mother and bohemian hostess) to nurse a romantic passion that won’t blow out in the winds of societal respectability and expectations. The protagonist of the “O ...more
Pierce
My parents' bookshelves are filled with minor works by major authors. I've never been sure why this is the case, it is as if bigger titles were plundered in the past and never returned or replaced.

Because of this I have read, for example, two almost unknown and quite undistinguished (although very enjoyable) early novels by Gore Vidal and nothing else. I read a bunch of Huxley before I ever laid my hands on Brave New World. We have piles of Golding you've never heard of.

And so, when I went looki
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Teng
I'm only giving this book 3 stars even though it's by Faulkner, because it was a complete drag to read. I mean, it was painful. That said, I still liked the twist at the end, it was wicked and unexpected (ok, it wouldn't have been totally unexpected if I really thought about it), and the twist really enliven the book. And since the twist doesn't come until near the end of the book, I don't feel the book picks up the pace until the end either. Also, I have a feeling this is just Faulkner's writin ...more
Zoha tajik
رمانهای کلاسیک یک جوری اند که آدم را درون خودشان میکشند، میگذارند با شخصیتهاش خو بگیری و بشناسیشان. و نخلهای وحشی از این قاعده مستثنا نبود. میدانم که پس از این علاوه بر توم جاد خوشه های خشم و آنا کارنینا و و خیلی از شخصیتهای خیالی دلم برای شارلوت، ویلبورن و زندانی بند قد این رمان هم تنگ می شود. و دلم برای شارلوت بیشتر از همه شان!
Cynthia
Oh my !!! What did I get myself into ??? I decided to read this book as it was one of Julia Robert's favorite picks from Oprah's book club site. I have never read anything by William Faulkner and probably will not again. His sentences ramble with scarce punctuation, and left me re-reading segments to better understand what he was trying to say. I felt his writing was confusing and a real challenge to read.

Yes! There were two stories here - "The Wild Palms" and "The Old Man". I guess you might sa
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Luciano Losiggio
Dos historias. Ambas sobre el amor y las mujeres. Una sobre cómo lo valen, a pesar del dolor, el sufrimiento y los quilombos. La otra sobre cómo no. Todo contado por Faulkner. Traducido por Borges.
Matthieu
Des trajectoires individuelles qui vont jusqu'au bout de leur logique anti-concessive, de leur morale exclusive, le tout dans une pratique de l'entrelacement des récits. Et cela finit sans point final par un "les femmes. Font chier!" C'est dramatique mais en même temps l'écriture ne nous pousse pas à l'identification narrative ; pas davantage que nous ne partageons le flux de pensée des protagonistes. L'écriture est accidentée et si peu fluide que des passages entiers de Faulkner ne constituent ...more
Lori
When I first started reading this book I became terribly afraid that I was just way too stupid to read Faulkner on my own. Every other Faulkner book I've read has been for a class, so I had the guidance of a teacher to get through the rough spots and bring to light some of the more difficult passages. While I know I definitely didn't get a lot of what was underlying the main two stories, the feelings that Faulkner can evoke in his narratives were still there and I was blown away by both stories, ...more
Etienne Mahieux
"Si je t'oublie, Jérusalem" (autrefois titré "Les Palmiers sauvages") raconte une double histoire. Celle d'Harry et Charlotte d'abord, qui ont changé de vie pour suivre le cours de leur passion amoureuse, qu'ils (surtout elle) rêvent pure et parfaite mais qui doit de gré ou de force s'inscrire dans une société qui ne l'est guère. Celle aussi d'un forçat anonyme, enrôlé dans une équipe de sauvetage lors d'une crue du Mississippi et qui se retrouvé à dériver dans une barque pourrie avec une femme ...more
Silvia Sirea
Un libro impetuoso e prepotente. Passionale e amaro. Due storie diverse raccontate simultaneamente che non hanno niente in comune - a parte qualche sottile riferimento che mi è sembrato di aver colto, ma potrei anche starmi sbagliando.
I capitoli si susseguono alternandosi a raccontare le vicende delle Palme selvagge e de Il Vecchio.

Il Vecchio è il nome con cui ci si riferisce al fiume Mississipi, croce e delizia di chi abita nelle sue terre. In questi capitoli viene narrata la storia di un'inond
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Gabriela Solis
Aún no decido si me gusta William Faulkner. Me explico: amo muchísimo algunos de sus cuentos, detesté As I Lay Dying y creo que era demasiado joven cuando intenté acercarme a The Sound and the Fury, al menos lo suficiente como para que su complejidad acabara con mi intención de terminarlo. Hace un par de días comencé a leer The Wild Palms y, hasta ahora, va anotando puntos a favor de Faulkner (cómo si los necesitara). El libro en realidad son dos novelas que se leen intercaladas: Las palmeras sa ...more
Gregor Samsa
„Takhle ne, Harry. Nikdy nic pokoutního. Vždycky jsem to říkala: že ať mě cokoliv potká, ať cokoli udělám, jenom ne žádnou pokoutnost. Kdybys byl aspoň takový fyzický typ, s kterých bych se z ničeho nic spustila a na kterých bych se dívala a myslela jenom od límečku dolů. Ale ne my dva, Harry. Ne s tebou. Ne s tebou.“

Uchopila ho opět za vlasy, opět mu způsobila bolest, ačkoli teď věděl, že ona ví, že mu působí bolest. „Poslyš: to musí být samé líbánky, vždycky. Na věky věkoucí, dokud jeden z nás
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Emily
This is the book that made me decide to read the Bible. I am not kidding. Just the title actually, which is a reference to psalm 137 and which makes a person (especially a melodramatic teenager) feel unaccountably soulful. The rest of the book is good too...
Chris Chester
"Between grief and nothing I will take grief."


All the things one would expect from Faulkner are present here: depressing Southern locales, hopelessness, and rambling, incisive prose.

The two interwoven tales revolve around a common theme... if you can really call it that. Set in the poverty of the South in the 1930s, the characters do not pursue modern aspirations like happiness, self-fulfillment or even peace. They don't hope. They don't dream.

Harry and Charlotte's romance is hopeless almost fro
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Helen Mccarthy
These are two very moving stories that add to Faulkner's rich depiction of the South. The second story, The Old Man, is especially interesting, dealing with the rescue of a white pregnant woman by a black convict, during the huge flood event on the Mississippi River in the 1920s. I especially liked this story, in which the convict endangers his life and future for a woman previously unknown to him.Faulkner is a fabulous writer - he hears all the nuances in local dialects and is able to reproduce ...more
Jenny
I have to confess, that after finishing Faulkner's five novels most commonly listed as his "masterpieces" (Absalom, Absalom!, The Sound and the Fury, Light in August, As I Lay Dying, Go Down Moses), I had more or less figured that I'd exhausted his supply of truly great novels. My experiences with Intruder in the Dust (good, but far from great) and Sanctuary (dull, with agonizing moments of brilliance) seemed to support that notion.

But I decided to read The Wild Palms [If I Forget Thee, Jerusale
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William Cuthbert Faulkner was a Nobel Prize-winning American novelist and short story writer. One of the most influential writers of the twentieth century, his reputation is based mostly on his novels, novellas, and short stories. He was also a published poet and an occasional screenwriter.
The majority of his works are based in his native state of Mississippi. Though his work was published as earl
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