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This classic account of the French War in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia is back in hardcover. Includes an introduction by George C. Herring.
Hardcover, 416 pages
Published March 1st 1994 by Stackpole Books (first published 1961)
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David
Jan 27, 2012 David rated it it was amazing
Shelves: read-history
Simply a great book. It deserves your undivided attention.

As far as I can tell, this book can be bought in old-fashioned paper form in the USA only from by Stackpole Books, based in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania and in business since 1930. In addition to the inherent virtue of supporting a publishing institution of long-standing dignity and of location far removed from the traditional centers of power, I also think that this book is best experienced this way, because of the great pictures and map
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Thomas
Nov 25, 2012 Thomas rated it it was amazing
This book and "The True Believer," were required reading when I went through the Special Forces Officer's Course at Ft. Bragg. When I went to Vietnam, I saw much of what Dr. Fall was describing.

I just reread "Street Without Joy" and realize that he was not only a brilliant historian, he was prescient in his understanding of the nature of insurgencies in the modern world.

He spoke of the folly of the French when he said that they were trying to fight ideology with technology.

We, the Americans,
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Lisa Lieberman
Jan 26, 2016 Lisa Lieberman rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: research
I now see where many of the secondary sources I've been reading got their insights. What's neat, though, is how Fall weaves his personal observations through the analysis of what went wrong at Dien Bien Phu. Fascinating characters emerge, and stories like this one:
Perhaps one of the most touching cases of devotion was that of Madame S. White-haired and close to sixty years old, she belonged to one of the grand bourgeois families of France. When her son, a lieutenant in the infantry, was transfer
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James
Apr 24, 2009 James rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Students of military and Vietnamese history
Bernard Fall's heartbreaking history of war in Vietnam - heartbreaking for at least three reasons: because of the failure of the French to honor the aspirations of the Vietnamese or to learn from their own mistakes; the failure of the U.S. government to learn from the experiences of the French; and the staggering amount of death, suffering and devastation visited on the Vietnamese people as a result.

One story can stand in for a lot of this book's message. An American unit was ambushed by the NVA
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Michael Burnam-fink
Street Without Joy is the definitively account of the first Indo-China War, as France attempted to hold on to it's East Asian colony. Bernard draws on first hand experience and documentary research in Paris to describe the slow defeat of France in the "vast empty spaces" of Vietnam's jungle and highlands to the light infantry of the Viet Minh.

Fall describes the complete failure of heavy mechanized units in guerrilla warfare. Tied to the scanty road network, the Groupes Mobile were juggernauts, b
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Don
Jun 25, 2010 Don rated it it was amazing
Many of this country's most respected political figures have noted Fall's absolute precision of the Vietnam War. In Colin Powell's 1995 Autobiography, My American Journey, he wrote: "I recently reread Bernard Fall's book on Vietnam, Street Without Joy. Fall makes painfully clear that we had almost no understanding of what we had gotten ourselves into. I cannot help thinking that if President Kennedy or President Johnson had spent a quiet weekend at Camp David reading that perceptive book, they w ...more
Manray9
Apr 16, 2012 Manray9 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
"Street Without Joy" is a must for the library of anyone interested in the 20th Century's Indo-China wars. Bernard Fall explored the French disaster brilliantly -- exposing the foolishness of the French military and political leaders while honoring the valor and dedication of the fighting men. Fall was a Frenchman who immigrated to America and accompanied French Union forces for graduate research at a U.S. university. His writing brought to light the hidebound French military leadership's failur ...more
Aaron Crofut
May 16, 2011 Aaron Crofut rated it it was amazing
Shelves: must-read, vietnam, war
Fall's book on the First Indochina War (France vs. the Viet Minh) is a must read, not only for those seeking to understand the conflicts in Southeast Asia but for understanding guerrilla and revolutionary war. Indeed, Fall's distinction between those two terms is extremely important. Technology cannot defeat ideology without going to extremes the Western World is unwilling to go to. Revolutionary wars must have popular support; mere acts of violence are not sufficient. If you cannot read the ent ...more
Michal Mironov
Jan 04, 2016 Michal Mironov rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The first third of the book was quite boring and old-fashioned - description of French army actions in Indochina with old diagrams reminded me of weird military dictionary. If I didnt happen to be patient reader, I would have probably closed the book after this part. Now I'm glad I did not. The middle part started to be finally interesting; I recommend especially all chapters entitled as "Diary". In this first-hand account, Fall proved to be a great and thoughtful observer. Many of his conclusio ...more
Chi Pham
Jul 05, 2012 Chi Pham rated it it was amazing
Shelves: history
Picking up the book knowing full well that I am going to counter military history at its best (the first Indochina War for you), I did not expect the level of historical analysis offered by the author. Having been raised in Vietnam and now reading the book from the enemy's perspective, I found the whole episode vindictive of my firm belief in the inevitable roles of the whole Vietnamese Communist movement in 1945, as well as educational about tragedies that textbooks always fail to mention. I al ...more
Scott
Dec 11, 2015 Scott rated it really liked it
Shelves: history, vietnam-war
If you have in interest in the Vietnam war, or in strategy, insurgencies and counter-insurgent techniques this book should be on your reading list. Fall tells a fascinating story of the post WW2 French in Indochina, their failures to understand or counter Vietnamese Communist forces and the eventual continuance of the same errors by the United States.

Essentially, Fall posits that French (and later US forces) failed to understand the nature of the Vietnamese Communist's revolutionary war, their s
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Godlarvae
Nov 10, 2009 Godlarvae rated it it was amazing
Although the least little bit dated in terminology, it was an amazing primer about "revolutionary war" as defined in our time.
Fall puts the French Indochina/Dien Bien Phu thing into historical as well as current perspective. (I remember, as a young Woodcrafter at Culver Military Summer School, the celebration of the armistice arrived to during that summer.) His treatment of different techniques, methods, ideas of the French military gave me a whole new perspective for the French, especially his
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CD
Sep 13, 2008 CD rated it it was amazing
This is the starting point for the reader wanting to begin to understand the Post WWII conflict in Viet-Nam.

Bernard Fall, a French journalist/scholar who would die during his continuing coverage of the Viet-Nam conflict writes a prophetic analysis of why the West would not ultimately be victorious in SE Asia. Along with his book, Hell in a very small place, The Siege of Dien Bien Phu, Fall introduced the West to the one of the rebellious remnants of the French Empire.

Written as much by a soldi
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Brian
May 14, 2015 Brian rated it really liked it
Colin Powell commented that this book should have been read by American leadership before the escalation of American involvement in Vietnam. Without a doubt, he was right. The French war in Vietnam (Indochina) is not as well known, but no less important. While I don't recommend this book as a primer on the conflict, it would serve well as a read after one has done previous research on the conflict.. largely because the geopolitical aspect of the conflict is absent from this book. Nonetheless, it ...more
Dorcey
Mar 14, 2013 Dorcey rated it it was amazing
Having served in Vietnam (1969-70 - as did my older brother, Jon L. Wingo)I would have to say that Dr. Fall's book is a "must read" by anyone who served in Vietnam or had thoughts of serving there. That is, if one can stomach reading details accounts (from both sides)about the waves of humanity laid to waste there: the Japanese, the French, the Americans, the Viet Cong, and the Viet Minh alike. A determined scholar, Dr. Fall paid the ultimate price over his Vietnam-at-war obsession,the subject o ...more
John Podlaski
Oct 11, 2014 John Podlaski rated it it was amazing
I found "Street Without Joy" fascinating - a cross between the summation of after-action battle reports and a history book outlining the French debacle in Indochina. Readers clearly see that Laos and Vietnam were trying to free themselves from French colonial rule after World War II...the French, Chinese and Japanese were all defeated and kicked out during the war; the author maintains that if France would have granted both Laos and Vietnam their independence in 1945 - so many lives could have b ...more
Nick
Sep 30, 2014 Nick rated it it was amazing
I'm not sure if "enjoyed" is the right word to use with this book, given the sheer human misery it covers, but "entertained" sounds even worse, so let's say I enjoyed reading this.
From what I understand, this is a definitive work on, well, the French debacle in Indochina, and it's not hard to see why - Fall's clear, crisp writing and interspersal of his own diary from Indochina masterfully combines both a macro and micro view of the conflict, and really the only bad thing I can say about it is
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James Hatton
May 22, 2015 James Hatton rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is the harrowing story of the French debacle in the First Indochina War*, and a prescient warning to those who were pursuing the Second Indochina War** at the time this edition was published (1964). This is a very, very good book.

Several of the key battles of the First Indochina war are presented in brutal detail: sacrifice, heroism, utter futility. Insights into the Viet Minh perspective are profound, since the author had access to key Viet Minh leaders.

If you want to know why the French l
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Tariq Mahmood
Its astounding that even after 60 odd years after these events, politicians still believe that technology will be able to defeat ideology. Ideology can only be replaced with another ideology by using effective propaganda, which is clearly explained in one very revealing chapter of this very engaging book. Propaganda has been mastered by the communists as they rely on peers to snitch on each other no matter how insignificant the issue is. Once the comrades have enough dirt they will start the emo ...more
Jim Golmon
A terrific book that provides grim details about the folly of attempting to fight ideology with military technology alone. Most of Fall's book deals with the French loss of the territory that became North Vietnam. Near the end we find the US making the same errors as the French in trying to "liberate" South Vietnam.

Fall asks why it is that we need to pit elite Western forces with all manner of technically superior fire power against relatively poorly trained and only rarely equally equipped reb
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Bradley Campbell
Jan 14, 2015 Bradley Campbell rated it it was amazing
A thoughtful history of French mistakes in post-war Indochina, with great insights and analysis of how and why the US repeated those mistakes as it began its war in Vietnam. I read this while traveling through Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos, and just after a re-read of Neil Sheehan's "A Bright Shining Line," which together made Fall's book especially engaging. Fall was killed in Vietnam long before the US war ended, but he foresees the inevitable failure (unhappily, since he had no love for the "Re ...more
Matt Giddings
Jan 07, 2010 Matt Giddings rated it it was amazing
Quite simply one of the best books ever written about the Franco-Vietminh war. More than 50 years later, Fall's prose still retains and conveys the hopeless, desperate urgency of the doomed French struggle for empire in South East Asia.
Brom Kim
Jul 29, 2015 Brom Kim rated it really liked it
Shelves: history
The definitive history of the French war in Indochine, the title comes from French troops' black humor reference to a Garbo film, and refers to route 4 in the Central Highlands of Vietnam. We had a lot more money than the French, but apparently no more sense because if policy makers took this seriously we never would've bothered. The French chased the Viet Minh around the country with tanks and trucks on the few roads and got slaughtered in 800m ambushes. We had more airplanes and tech but did m ...more
Steve
Sep 13, 2012 Steve rated it it was amazing
It was very gut wrenching. Almost every lesson learned documented as to why the French military failed in Indochina is prophetic of what the American military experienced later in Vietnam.
Al Berry
Jun 03, 2016 Al Berry rated it really liked it
Excellent book on the end of the French Union in Indochina, a history interspersed with the authors own diary experiences,may well as other interesting vignettes, such as the Jewish concentration camp survivor who joins the French Foreign Legion to track down the commandment of the camp.

Fall's actual history is excellent analysis on why the French failed, politically and militarily. While most English histories are dedicated almost exclusively to Dien Bien Phu, fall spends less than a tenth of t
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Michael
Jun 11, 2012 Michael rated it it was amazing
Another Bernard Fall masterpiece
Fred
A great book that has survived the last fifty years with it's understanding of events, relevance, and lessons largely intact. That alone speaks to the quality of the writing. This book is written by a French journalist and World War 2 veteran who was eventually killed while covering the American Vietnam War as a correspondent not too many years after this book was written.

This is the story of the French Indochina War as it's called, which was quite literally their own Vietnam. Not many people, e
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Jan
Jul 24, 2014 Jan rated it really liked it
A classic from 1964 that provides poignant vignettes based on French experiences from the First Indochina War. The book deservedly became an unavoidable part of the curriculum for all students of this conflict - and the ensuing US engagement.

Adamant in its insistence that you don't win a political / revolutionary conflict with technology - reading it 50 years later on the eve on disengagement from Afghanistan - unavoidably provokes the thought whether real progress has been made in the ability
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Jim
Oct 11, 2011 Jim rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
I've been meaning to read this book for about the past twenty five years or so. It's been described as the definitive work on the involvement of the United States in Vietnam, The Pentagon Papers notwithstanding.

I don't think this book is as good as it's press. It had been described to me as "the definitive book about Vietnam". Perhaps that is because the author lost his life in Vietnam in 1967, under fire.

Although it is very descriptive of the French experience in that country, only the last t
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Steve Woods
Aug 14, 2014 Steve Woods rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Placed in context this is an amazing piece of work. It's two books in one really,a history, (and a primary source at that to some degree because he was there during much of what he describes)and a journal of some very touching vignettes from that experience. In a way I think the book would have been better if the vignettes had been separated out from the history and presented in another place or at the end of this volume, but that is just a matter of organisation that in no way detracts from the ...more
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Bernard B. Fall was a prominent war correspondent, historian, political scientist, and expert on Indochina during the 1950s and 1960s. Born in Austria, he moved with his family to France as a child after Germany's annexation, where he started fighting with the French Resistance at age 16, and later the French Army during World War II.

In 1950 he first came to the United States for graduate studies
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“But the Viet-Minh had had about ten months in which to establish their administration, train their forces with Japanese and American weapons (and Japanese and Chinese instructors), and kill or terrorize into submission the genuine Vietnamese nationalists who wanted a Viet-Nam independent from France but equally free of Communist rule. The first round of the war for Indochina already had been lost for the West before it had even begun.” 0 likes
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