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The Flame Alphabet
by
Ben Marcus (Goodreads Author)
In The Flame Alphabet, the most maniacally gifted writer of our generation delivers a work of heartbreak and horror, a novel about how far we will go, and the sorrows we will endure, in order to protect our families.
A terrible epidemic has struck the country and the sound of children’s speech has become lethal. Radio transmissions from strange sources indicate that peopl...more
A terrible epidemic has struck the country and the sound of children’s speech has become lethal. Radio transmissions from strange sources indicate that peopl...more
Hardcover, 289 pages
Published
January 17th 2012
by Knopf
(first published January 5th 2012)
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This is undoubtedly the magnum opus of the three books Ben Marcus has released through the porous borders between the self and the world. The Age of Wire and String (1995) left me baffled and pretty impressed by its unique indexical acrobatics and budding vision of where to take the avant garde programme. Notable American Women (2002) detonated in my brain and dazzled me senseless with its maturing grip on how to show and not tell, and transfigured the form of the metafictional autobiography wit...more
Wow. So, I tend to not read reviews for at least a moderate span of time before I dive into a book in order to avoid the accidental epiphytic absorption and potential regurgitation of other people's views/phrases/biases in my own review, and to keep myself away from being a naysayer or overly emphatic fan of something solely or largely for the sake of being a brat or a bully-defense-shield. In the case of this novel, however, I wasn't concerned with post-read review-skimming because I really did...more
Jun 13, 2012
Jenn(ifer)
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
you and you and you (not you)
Recommended to Jenn(ifer) by:
J N-M
I’m not sure how to write this review sans spoilers, so here’s the spoiler-free version:
This book is one of the most original, intriguing novels I’ve ever read and if one more person gives it 1 lousy star I will find them, pin them to the ground and scream in their face until they keel over convulsing from the crushing!! Of course I'm over 18, so that means I would probably die too, but it would be worth it!!
Okay.
So.
The Flame Alphabet.
Man, what a great concept! Read on for the actual review (w...more
WARNING: The following has spoilers almost from word one
Ben Marcus wrote an outstandingly cerebral, uncomfortable, and moving novel with The Flame Alphabet—factor in that chromatically angular cover, of whose fiery upthrust I simply cannot tire of beholding, and it approaches that rare point of fictive perfection. So when I survey its remarkably low average rating, the legion of single and double stars ranged against it, I'm left at a loss for an explanation. GR friend Knig calls it Jewish Sci-F...more
Ben Marcus wrote an outstandingly cerebral, uncomfortable, and moving novel with The Flame Alphabet—factor in that chromatically angular cover, of whose fiery upthrust I simply cannot tire of beholding, and it approaches that rare point of fictive perfection. So when I survey its remarkably low average rating, the legion of single and double stars ranged against it, I'm left at a loss for an explanation. GR friend Knig calls it Jewish Sci-F...more
May 17, 2012
Manny
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
If you think Kafka's scared to tackle the tough issues
Recommended to Manny by:
Joshua Nomen-Mutatio
The Flame Alphabet by Ben Marcus
by J.G. Ballard
They had now reached an area where the desert gave way to salt dunes and then to a substantial expanse of water that Travis tentatively identified as the Dead Sea. His wife at first disagreed, but the Jeep contained no maps, and her knowledge of the local geography was even less certain than his; given a lack of alternate hypotheses, she accepted the label he had given it. The bitter, salty, undrinkable quality of the water was at least consistent w...more
by J.G. Ballard
They had now reached an area where the desert gave way to salt dunes and then to a substantial expanse of water that Travis tentatively identified as the Dead Sea. His wife at first disagreed, but the Jeep contained no maps, and her knowledge of the local geography was even less certain than his; given a lack of alternate hypotheses, she accepted the label he had given it. The bitter, salty, undrinkable quality of the water was at least consistent w...more
"I received 500,000 discrete bits of information today, of which maybe 25 are important." -- David Foster Wallace
Words kill.
John 1:1 might be a mythological fabrication, but in the end there will be the word, some word and then the end. Lights out humanity. Some hateful word, or rhetoric, or bottom line on a profit report, or words about imaginary superiority, (mis)perceived threats, words from fictional gods passed down through books filled with words, words that poison and kill. People die ev...more
Words kill.
John 1:1 might be a mythological fabrication, but in the end there will be the word, some word and then the end. Lights out humanity. Some hateful word, or rhetoric, or bottom line on a profit report, or words about imaginary superiority, (mis)perceived threats, words from fictional gods passed down through books filled with words, words that poison and kill. People die ev...more
70 pages in and this is the most boring "thriller" I've ever read. The premise is amazing, language that kills!, and apparently it's a true story because reading this is a slow painful death. I'm not usually a quitter when it comes to books, but I don't think I'm going to make it. I keep skipping whole, useless paragraphs. Ben Marcus is clearly trying too hard. There's a point where flowery prose must end and make way for an actual plot, but apparently Marcus doesn't agree.
The Jewish subplot, if...more
The Jewish subplot, if...more
Jul 17, 2012
Nate D
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
well-tuned listeners
Recommended to Nate D by:
orange tubing, running underground
Shelves:
dystopiary,
favorites
Here, again, the dangers of language, of verbalizing meaning. Here, halfway between infectious zombie-ism of Pontypool and the destruction of memory through words in The Great Fire of London. As in all of these, Marcus' "language toxicity" is totally fascinating, both as horror storytelling, and as conceptual framework for strange and perfect riffs of thought.
Spreading messages dilutes them. Even understanding them is a compromise. The language kills itself, expires inside its host. Language act...more
one of the threads in this ball-of-yarn of a novel involves a group of jews who visit secret holes dug deep in the forest from which sermons pour forth -- the holy cavities referred to as 'jew holes', a phrase which repeatedly pops up throughout the flame alphabet.
amongst my group of friends this phrase also reoccurs, albeit, in a slightly different context: working out latent homosexuality married to not-as-latent self-loathing jeweyness, we frequently urge the other to 'pound my jew-hole' 'ra...more
amongst my group of friends this phrase also reoccurs, albeit, in a slightly different context: working out latent homosexuality married to not-as-latent self-loathing jeweyness, we frequently urge the other to 'pound my jew-hole' 'ra...more
Hey Goodreads, I hate to unmask myself and be the villainous revealer of my own secret identity, but I'm now a contributing writer over at an arts website called Spectrum Culture, and my latest piece there is a full review of The Flame Alphabet, here: http://spectrumculture.com/2012/03/th...
I can't promise that you'll be able to detect my usual Krok Zero style, if I even have such a thing, but I'd like to think it's in there. Check it out!
I can't promise that you'll be able to detect my usual Krok Zero style, if I even have such a thing, but I'd like to think it's in there. Check it out!
This is an extremely dark and ultimately enervating dystopian novel full of disturbing contrasts and ontological concepts. It's the ripest prose I've read this side of China Mieville, but Marcus's story drags on with an all-encompassing dread and relentless anguish. Numerous and grotesque images, made of organic, gelatinous substances, squirm and squall through the narrative like a howling of the soul. There is no doubt that this author has an uncommon talent and imagination. He was so effective...more
Apr 15, 2012
Ruby Tombstone
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Anyone with a soul
THE SHORT VERSION
This is an absolute fucking masterpiece and I loved every single page of it.
THE LONG VERSION
This book is gloriously written and incredibly dark - think Saramago's Blindness without the endless sentences, or Pontypool Changes Everything with a more linear narrative. The apocalyptic story elements alone would have made for a fulfilling novel, but here Marcus also explores issues of religion and religious persecution, family relationships, self-image, personal inaction, guilt and h...more
This is an absolute fucking masterpiece and I loved every single page of it.
THE LONG VERSION
This book is gloriously written and incredibly dark - think Saramago's Blindness without the endless sentences, or Pontypool Changes Everything with a more linear narrative. The apocalyptic story elements alone would have made for a fulfilling novel, but here Marcus also explores issues of religion and religious persecution, family relationships, self-image, personal inaction, guilt and h...more
The villain of this book, I guess, is a man named Labov. He is a ruthless sadistic conspirator and a bit of a douchebag. I did not care for him. He was my favorite character.
The narrator had most of the same character defects. Maybe he enjoyed being a dick less, but he was a dick. He was also a crappy father, who was unable to discipline any sort of respect or awareness into his child even before the epidemic. And an adulterer who cheated on his wife even after he found out she was still alive....more
The narrator had most of the same character defects. Maybe he enjoyed being a dick less, but he was a dick. He was also a crappy father, who was unable to discipline any sort of respect or awareness into his child even before the epidemic. And an adulterer who cheated on his wife even after he found out she was still alive....more
Cool title, interesting concept and good writing - but it didn't do anything for me. I wanted to give it up after 70 pages, and I should have. The plot was weak, and the character development didn't make up for that - I didn't care about any of the characters. I had high hopes for this book because the idea sounded really original to me. But just...ugh. I can understand its merits, but it wasn't for me.
The use of language in this book is just extraordinary. Also, I really appreciate that the plot doesn't bang you on the head to let you know what's going on. I read Michael Chabon's blurb on the back that he tore through this book. I can't say I feel the same. It's pretty heartbreaking, if beautiful. Probably not something I'd want a couple large doses of at a time or I wouldn't appreciate the intricate turns of phrases as much. Definitely recommend.
an almost conventional novel from the contemporary king of experimentation - Beckettian project of effacing language - Murphy character an homage to Beckett's Murphy?
just finished - this is a beautifully painful effort to not say what we want to say - could be summed up by a line from one of his earlier works:
Language is just a more sophisticated way to cry
a breathtaking failure
just finished - this is a beautifully painful effort to not say what we want to say - could be summed up by a line from one of his earlier works:
Language is just a more sophisticated way to cry
a breathtaking failure
I had high expectations for this book. At first, it seemed like it was headed for a thrilling apocalyptic plot. Religious allusions are heavy-handed and mixed in with anti-religious tones, I kept looking for where it all fit in with teen angst, domestic unrest, and the destruction of language. Marcus's writing is poetic, fun to read, at times, but it just kept going and going and going . . . nowhere. Disappointing to say the least.
There's no doubt that Ben Marcus is a force of nature. He's an artist with words. Which is a different thing, of course, than being a good storyteller.
My initial review of this book was: "this is such a great premise. Children's voices becoming toxic? It's brilliant. But I don't understand why Marcus bothers with the linguistic gymnastics. If he just told the story straight-up, it would be a lot more fulfilling."
Then I happened upon an essay of Marcus', defending what he calls experimental lit...more
My initial review of this book was: "this is such a great premise. Children's voices becoming toxic? It's brilliant. But I don't understand why Marcus bothers with the linguistic gymnastics. If he just told the story straight-up, it would be a lot more fulfilling."
Then I happened upon an essay of Marcus', defending what he calls experimental lit...more
Odd, is about the best I can say about it. The concept was original and intelligently executed. The emotional strain was well written. It was not, however, a comfortable or entirely enjoyable read. I don't know a lot about the author, but this made me feel like I was overhearing some things that I would rather not have known.
The narrative wallowed in what made the main character feel the most isolated and alone. It was very intimate, but also very ugly. There was a lot of dark feelings about ch...more
The narrative wallowed in what made the main character feel the most isolated and alone. It was very intimate, but also very ugly. There was a lot of dark feelings about ch...more
Sometime in the near future, the speech of children starts making adults gradually sicken, shrivel, and die. It's a strange premise but one strikingly similar to Terrence Holt's short story "'O Logos," about a written word that first appears as a bruise on a child and that causes everyone who reads it to catch the same symptom and die. Anyway, in this story, the main characters are a family of "forest Jews" who practice their religion in secret in a muddy hut with a weird device that taps into a...more
Jan 31, 2013
Alan
rated it
2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Sufferers from a surfeit of satisfaction
Recommended to Alan by:
Sources too numerous to count
Words to memorize
Words hypnotize
Words make my mouth exercise
Words all fail the magic prize...
—Violent Femmes, "Add It Up"
The Flame Alphabet is—at least on the surface—about the advent of a terrible disease borne by words, carried by children but afflicting adults, that sweeps the world, destroying civilization as we know it while making it impossible even to leave a record of the event for our successors. Words, words, words, the ones that flow so endlessly from our mouths and the ones we write...more
This has a nice science fiction premise: Children acquire a disease where speaking causes an actual illness in adults. It starts from there and gets weirder and freakin' weirder. The disease spreads. The very notion of communication is called into question. Society is deeply fucked.
The whole thing is suffused with an intense visceral anxiety that reflects the toxic language of the book. It's full of bodily fluids and uncomfortable feelings. Reading it wasn't painful or difficult per se, indeed,...more
The whole thing is suffused with an intense visceral anxiety that reflects the toxic language of the book. It's full of bodily fluids and uncomfortable feelings. Reading it wasn't painful or difficult per se, indeed,...more
Original review at my blog, Writing by Numbers, here.
In this deeply chilling novel, Ben Marcus imagines a world in which children’s speech, and eventually, all spoken and written language, becomes toxic to adults. All of the prose filters through the narrator’s fog of illness, and the profound isolation of a speechless landscape. In grotesquely compelling detail, Marcus reduces people to shades. We feel alongside them as their organs fail and their skin shrinks.
The philosophical questions posed...more
In this deeply chilling novel, Ben Marcus imagines a world in which children’s speech, and eventually, all spoken and written language, becomes toxic to adults. All of the prose filters through the narrator’s fog of illness, and the profound isolation of a speechless landscape. In grotesquely compelling detail, Marcus reduces people to shades. We feel alongside them as their organs fail and their skin shrinks.
The philosophical questions posed...more
The concept is really intriguing. It makes you think of the development and necessity of language. Why do we need and have language as it pertains to culture, history, and religion. There is also that problem that happens in all kinds of apocalypse genre stuff where one man's fight to save his family allows for that man to harm and kill all other manner of people (presumably with families of their own) with some sort of genre inflected impunity. That does not happen in the flame alphabet, no one...more
how many different ways can one sharpen the edge of this notion of weaponized language? how many times can one stab the idea into a reader's orifices, taking fastidious care with each and every assault to describe sundry pathetic discharges and witherings? with how many syllable-crusted medical fictions and real or imagined aphorisms can one cripple a body that wonders not so much whether it will make it to the finish line as whether it wants to? read this novel and you just may find out.
years a...more
years a...more
By early December we huddled at home, speechless. If we spoke it was through faces gripped in early rigor mortis. Our neighborhood had gone blank, killed down by winter. It was too cold even for the remaining children to do much hunting....more
I don’t know how else to refer to their work, but sometimes they swarmed the block, flooding houses with speech until the adults were repulsed to the woods.
You’d see a neighbor with a rifle and you’d hear that rifle go off. The trees stood bloodless, barely holdi
I managed twenty-five pages of this recent GR fave, but too many aspects of the style infuriated me to want to carry on. Compiling a mental dossier of things you dislike about the book as you’re reading it, in my experience, ends in messy disaster. Some of these points are personal niggles but some must (surely!) stand as legitimate annoyances.
First page:
sound abatement fabrics
anti-comprehension pills
Dräger Aerotest breathing kit
Lebov’s needle
copper powder for phonic salting
bootful of felt
noi...more
First page:
sound abatement fabrics
anti-comprehension pills
Dräger Aerotest breathing kit
Lebov’s needle
copper powder for phonic salting
bootful of felt
noi...more
Does it seem like there's a flood of literary fiction using some speculation as the central conceit? Julavits's The Vanishers, Perrotta's The Leftovers, Walker's Age of Miracles, Whitehead's Zone One--psychic combat, a Rapture-like (or 4400-esque) disappearance, the slowing of the Earth's revolutions, zombies.
To that list, we could add Ben Marcus's The Flame Alphabet, which takes the Burroughsian language-as-virus idea and grounds it in a family relationship. In Marcus's world, children and teen...more
To that list, we could add Ben Marcus's The Flame Alphabet, which takes the Burroughsian language-as-virus idea and grounds it in a family relationship. In Marcus's world, children and teen...more
An epidemic that started among the forest-dwelling Jews — “genetic in nature … a problem only for certain people” — is spreading to other communities and threatening to impose an ominous silence upon the world. The culprit is the toxic language of children. This is the ingenious premise of “The Flame Alphabet,” a novel By Ben Marcus (Knopf. $25.95).
Marcus, the author of “The Age of Wire and String” and “The Father Costume,” is an inventive novelist, and “The Flame Alphabet” is no exception. Marc...more
Marcus, the author of “The Age of Wire and String” and “The Father Costume,” is an inventive novelist, and “The Flame Alphabet” is no exception. Marc...more
When I began Ben Marcus' new novel, the Flame Alphabet, I was quite excited by it. It was about a virus that emerged from the vocabulary of children and had a dark, satirical edge to it that I was completely behind.
The Flame Alphabet never lived beyond that opening premise, however. Suffering structurally from presenting a contagion narrative that never gave into it and, instead, presented a stationary, limited cast of what were metaphoric questions for the narrator, Marcus never moves beyond hi...more
The Flame Alphabet never lived beyond that opening premise, however. Suffering structurally from presenting a contagion narrative that never gave into it and, instead, presented a stationary, limited cast of what were metaphoric questions for the narrator, Marcus never moves beyond hi...more
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Seemingly the most conspicuous aspect of Ben Marcus' work, to date, is its expansion on one of the most primary concerns of the original Surrealist authors -- perhaps most typified by Benjamin Péret, husband of the acclaimed painter Remedios Varo -- this being a very deep interest in the psychological service and implication of symbols and the manners by which those symbols can be maneuvered and r...more
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