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Under the Net
by
Iris Murdoch
Introduction by Kiernan Ryan
Iris Murdoch’s first novel is a gem – set in a part of London where struggling writers rub shoulders with successful bookies, and film starlets with frantic philosophers. Its hero, Jake Donaghue, is a likable young man who makes a living out of translation work and sponging off his friends. A meeting with Anna, an old flame, leads him into a ser...more
Iris Murdoch’s first novel is a gem – set in a part of London where struggling writers rub shoulders with successful bookies, and film starlets with frantic philosophers. Its hero, Jake Donaghue, is a likable young man who makes a living out of translation work and sponging off his friends. A meeting with Anna, an old flame, leads him into a ser...more
Paperback, 256 pages
Published
October 27th 1977
by Penguin Books Ltd
(first published 1954)
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первый роман айрис мёрдок считается философско-плутовским романом (с юмором), а советская критика (естественно) причислила его к образцам творчества "сердитых молодых людей" (потом, правда, русская несколько одумалась и теперь не причисляет его ни к чему).
на самом деле, это битницкий роман, только пересаженный на британскую почву: нормальный герой керуака (только чуть больше вписанный в социум и устроенный в жизни) попадает в мир примерно вудхауса и мотается не с одного края конт...more
на самом деле, это битницкий роман, только пересаженный на британскую почву: нормальный герой керуака (только чуть больше вписанный в социум и устроенный в жизни) попадает в мир примерно вудхауса и мотается не с одного края конт...more
It seems to me that most male authors have male central characters, and female authors female central characters, especially when the novel is in the first person. It also seems to me that female authors (in general) create more believable female central characters, and male authors (in general) more believable male characters, especially concerning central characters and particularly when in the first person narrative. This shouldn't be surprising. That said, this novel, for me, is the best ...more
I loved this book. A first person narrative about a young man on a picaresque quest for love and friendship, with a good healthy dose of philosophy added in for good measure.
The part of the story that stays with me is the story around Hugo. I think I liked most the idea that a friendship might end on the basis of an assumed betrayal and that the betrayal is one of the spirit and not one that occurred at all. Although, that is an interesting question in itself - does the person we fe...more
The part of the story that stays with me is the story around Hugo. I think I liked most the idea that a friendship might end on the basis of an assumed betrayal and that the betrayal is one of the spirit and not one that occurred at all. Although, that is an interesting question in itself - does the person we fe...more
Irish novelist Iris Murdoch's debut novel Under the Net is, at least in theory, one of those thrilling On the Road-style chronicles of youth spent without responsibility, thus creating interesting adventures populated by larger than life characters. However, what separates Under the Net from other, similar novels is, simply, that the characters are--with the exception of Jake--not interesting in the slightest. Murdoch spends a great fraction of the book explaining to the reader precisely why J...more
This book was chosen from the overview provided in 20th Century British Authors on BBC 4. I liked the premise of a child like failed author (Jake) bumbling around London in the 1950's - sponging from his friends, a bizarre love square with the Quentin Sisters and Hugo. Each of them loves the wrong person.
The star of the book is 1950's London - the place names, pubs, coffee houses and the now obviously dated dialogues were a joy in the book. There are a couple of set pieces - like ...more
The star of the book is 1950's London - the place names, pubs, coffee houses and the now obviously dated dialogues were a joy in the book. There are a couple of set pieces - like ...more
When I read this in college, our modern lit professor warned us against being hayseed critics. We need to have a basis for our criticism, a chunk of spoken reason, or text, behind our critiques and accolades of each book we read. Otherwise, we’ll end up looking like the foolish critic in Norman Rockwell’s painting, sucking on a strand of hay while we squint and furrow at a work of art still in progress...
By the time Murdoch’s book was that quarter assigned, I was trying hard not be cau...more
By the time Murdoch’s book was that quarter assigned, I was trying hard not be cau...more
It's always astonishing to me when I'm exposed to a book I would never have picked up and find myself lost in it, and that's the very reason I have been working my way through the 1001 Books list.
In UNDER THE NET Jake Donaghue is a failure of a writer, a bum, a leech on his friends and, despite being an adult, views the world almost as a child does. He never thinks an action through to the consequence, he treats his friendships lightly - taking them for granted or doing stupid, sill...more
In UNDER THE NET Jake Donaghue is a failure of a writer, a bum, a leech on his friends and, despite being an adult, views the world almost as a child does. He never thinks an action through to the consequence, he treats his friendships lightly - taking them for granted or doing stupid, sill...more
I am not really sure what was it in this novel that I felt almost nothing while reading it.
When Iris Murdoch tried to be funny, I felt no humor whatsoever. I saw her try to develop some complicated twists and turns, but I was never at the edge of my seat about anything. Her philosophical musings made me sleepy. Her attempt to put some romance into this made me yawn.
My copy of this book has an introduction by Kiernan Ryan who calls it a bold and brilliant debut by Murdoch....more
When Iris Murdoch tried to be funny, I felt no humor whatsoever. I saw her try to develop some complicated twists and turns, but I was never at the edge of my seat about anything. Her philosophical musings made me sleepy. Her attempt to put some romance into this made me yawn.
My copy of this book has an introduction by Kiernan Ryan who calls it a bold and brilliant debut by Murdoch....more
Jake, the protagonist, is an aspiring writer-gadfly who falls in with Hugo, a part-time philosopher/film producer of independent means. Jake is so impressed by Hugo's seemingly deep insight into the universe that he authors a high brow novel based on their late night kibitzing. The main character is a thinly disguised caricature of Hugo. When Hugo appears to grow distant and then suddenly fades from their social scene, Jake is convinced that his novel, albeit obscure, is the root of Hugo's disap...more
The more I think about Under the Net the more I like it. It has nice balance of quirky characters, a rollicking fun story, with a bit of sobriety thrown in. As the story progresses Jake matures and it is interesting to watch the transformation. The guy is a serious diaster in the beginning, but by the end I was certain he would get his act together.
The chapter in which Jake dog-naps Mars is hilarious! It could stand on its own as funny sketch comedy. I don't think I ever laug...more
The chapter in which Jake dog-naps Mars is hilarious! It could stand on its own as funny sketch comedy. I don't think I ever laug...more
Глибокий та серйозний аналіз неможилво здійснити в межах цієї невеликої розвідки, тому спробую окреслити основні філософські риси першого роману [повісті] «Під сіткою» (Under the Net) (1954), який, на мій погляд, дає підстави говорити про сформований стиль автора і основи для експлікації як художньго мислення Мердок, так і специфічного світобачення письменниці. Звичайно, не менш важливі улюблений читачами і критиками роман «Чорний принц» (The Black Prince) (1973) і останній роман Айріс Мердок «Д...more
I wish goodreads widened its rating scale. My opinion of this book falls somewhere in the area between 'really liked it' and 'it was amazing'. It's a kind of 'really, REALLY liked it'.
I usually enjoy reading a novel's page on goodreads after finishing the book. Seeing my thoughts reflected in other readers' reviews gives me narcissistic pleasure and keeps at bay any urge to write my own. Today, however, I was bitterly disappointed - so many complaints against this marvelous piece! The ...more
I usually enjoy reading a novel's page on goodreads after finishing the book. Seeing my thoughts reflected in other readers' reviews gives me narcissistic pleasure and keeps at bay any urge to write my own. Today, however, I was bitterly disappointed - so many complaints against this marvelous piece! The ...more
Jake Donaghue is a lazy, mooching, failed writer. Under the Net is basically a free-flowing connection of his and his friends' antics in London and Paris. Under the surface is a commentary on language, and how words so incompletely convey ideas and rarely express the truth.
I almost abandoned this book up until the half-way mark. The only way I could describe it is vacuous: there just wasn't much there. I didn't hate it, but I just couldn't bring myself to feel anything towards ...more
It was really interesting, it reads very much contemporary. The main character, Jake Donahue, sort of meanders through life, as a failed writer and living off of his many friends, but somehow everything seems to work out for him. He is impulsive, lazy, but has a particular charm about him that is obvious, due to the novel's first person narration.
He seems to me to be, as a character a sort of failed existentialist, in that he is impulsive and carries out many of his actions with little ...more
He seems to me to be, as a character a sort of failed existentialist, in that he is impulsive and carries out many of his actions with little ...more
In a word: delightful. The book was Iris Murdoch's first and is a jaunty picaresque novel with a liberal sprinkling of philosophical musings throughout. The main character is a lazy, self-absorbed writer who can only be described as feckless (new favorite word?), and who spends his days bumming around London with his drunkard friends while double-crossing bookies, freeing patients from hospital wards, and crashing communist party rallies on movie sets. The philosophy bit comes in when several mi...more
This novel was very smart and witty. Jake is pushed out of his world of comfort, where he had been translating french dime novels instead of doing his own work, and, in a series of misadventures, tries to piece together the tattered remains of his relationships with several caricatures of London's intellectual elite. Novels of misadventure and wit are something I both immediately like and of which I am immediately skeptical. Wit poses the danger that there is no substance to the novel, but r...more
I find hard to say what this book is about. There seem to be no plot, it's just a series of pretty normal situations turned comic and dream-like by chaotic misunderstandings and the weirdest logic. Nothing happens, really. However, this is one of the books I've enjoyed the most this year, because of (i)the exquisite prose and (ii) it's set in London, and I could feel every place described. I enjoyed this stroll with a nostalgic feeling.
The writing is delicate and tough at the same ti...more
The writing is delicate and tough at the same ti...more
Book Club Reading - 2010
As the first novel by Dame Iris, the comedy doesn't always come off, the story lacks a compelling narrative thread, and at the heart of it Jake Donaghue tells his story with a rambling, ruminating style that somehow distances rather than involves. Still, the unique style and substance of her writing, fully sharpened and matured in such books as The Word Child, The Book and the Brotherhood, and Message to the Planet, can also be seen in this seminal, lighter w...more
As the first novel by Dame Iris, the comedy doesn't always come off, the story lacks a compelling narrative thread, and at the heart of it Jake Donaghue tells his story with a rambling, ruminating style that somehow distances rather than involves. Still, the unique style and substance of her writing, fully sharpened and matured in such books as The Word Child, The Book and the Brotherhood, and Message to the Planet, can also be seen in this seminal, lighter w...more
I couldn't finish the Macedonia book; for once, I needed a break from non-fiction. But Murdoch's dark humor in Under The Net is just the reprieve I needed. Follow a lazy socialist intellectual through England and France during the 1930s, and enjoy the ridiculousness of his troubles as he stalks a former girlfriend (a singer turned mime-actress) and a former best friend (socialist philosopher-turned-film-producer/director) for no definite reason other than on impulse. If you're a dog-lover or ...more
I didn't really like the book. I don't feel qualified to rate it on a scale of 1 to 5 stars, because it really was not my cup of tea. I don't think I have liked any book written as a monologue. I spend too much time second guessing the narrator and wondering what really happened and what does it really mean. It just makes it much harder for me to follow the story and get the points the author is trying to make.
Second, I had a hard time identifying with Jake. I couldn't understand why...more
Second, I had a hard time identifying with Jake. I couldn't understand why...more
You never really know what you're going to get from some of these Time 100 books. For Under the Net, that was more true than most, because I was reading an old bound copy that didn't even have a jacket to give a cover blurb. Thus it was to my great surprise that this novel turned out to be quite a hilarious journey through one man's life that starts solely because he gets kicked out by an ex-girlfriend. In a whirlwind where he seeks out old friends and makes new, armed only with what he believes...more
Jake Donaghue, garrulous artist, meets Hugo Belfounder, silent philosopher.
Jake, hack writer and sponger, now penniless flat-hunter, seeks out an old girlfriend, Anna Quentin, and her glamorous actress sister, Sadie.
He resumes acquaintance with formidable Hugo, whose 'philosophy' he once presumptuously dared to interpret. These meetings involve Jake and his eccentric servant-companion, Finn, in a series of adventures that include the kidnapping of a film-star dog and a ...more
Jake, hack writer and sponger, now penniless flat-hunter, seeks out an old girlfriend, Anna Quentin, and her glamorous actress sister, Sadie.
He resumes acquaintance with formidable Hugo, whose 'philosophy' he once presumptuously dared to interpret. These meetings involve Jake and his eccentric servant-companion, Finn, in a series of adventures that include the kidnapping of a film-star dog and a ...more
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Recommended to K.D. by:
Time 100 Best Ever Novels; 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die (2006-2010)
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This is my 2nd book by Dame Iris Murdoch (1919-1999). I read her 1978 Booker Prize winner The Sea, The Sea last year first because it is both included in the 501 Must Read Books and 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die. I liked it so much that I started reading this novel with high expectations. Also, this novel Under the Net is my 29th book included in the TIME Magazine's 100 Best Novels. The Sea, The Sea is not in that list.
Well, TIME's Richard Lacayo (one of those, the other be...more
Well, TIME's Richard Lacayo (one of those, the other be...more
It was good, but not what I expected. I thought this book sounded interesting based on Book Lust, but I am finding that when I have raised expectations of something, I end up having mixed feelings about it. The story has great character development and some interesting philosophy, but I thought I was going to be reading a mystery. It would have been an interesting book for my book club, but one of our rules, is that enough copies must be available at the local library, and the large print edi...more
I loved this book. I found it to be brilliantly funny. After reading several books where at the end I thought "What was the point?", "Under the Net" was extremely refreshing. The novel has a bit of mystery to it, so it is hard to see where Murdoch is taking her characters until the end is reached. Not until the end do you understand how Jake, Hugo, Sadie, and Anna are all wound together and how important it is for Jake to unwind their stories in order to move forward in his o...more
The cocky narrator of "Under the Net" is precisely what antiheroes are made of. Roaming the streets of London like a vagabond (though money frequently touches his hands) and interacting with vile people, THIS is a perpetual ode to laziness, exactly the type of thing to spark my particular interest. The story is organic, its flow is envious: few writers can get away with such subtle themes and sensual undertow. It is eerie, weirldy and mysteriously symbolic. A more faithful rendition of...more
تدور الرواية حول جيك و هو مؤلف و صحفي يعيش حياة فوضوية متبطلة، لا تلوي على شيء و لا حتى للشهرة و المال، أشبه بالريشة التي تستسلم للريح و لتأخذها حيثما شاءت، و حول بعض الأحداث التي حصلت له في فترة من فترات حياته مع أصدقائه، و خاصة هوجو، الرجل غريب الأطوار الذي يعيش فلسفته الخاصة، لدرجة التخلي عن ثروته أكثر من مرة لأجل فكرة... و الكثير من النقاش و الحوار حول عدد من القضايا... و الكثير من ضمير الأنا للراوي جيك و عالمه الداخلي و تبصر في تحليل نفسه و مشاعره و تناقضاته...0
ليس هناك من أحداث لا مأل...more
ليس هناك من أحداث لا مأل...more
The Bad: The protagonist is lightweight and the plot much too unlikely for me to sympathize as a reader needs to do. The narrator’s register was somewhat high and childlike, so his voice felt mismatched. The plot lacked suspense. It needed more action and less thinking. The writing is merely amusing in places where I think Murdoch intended it to be hilarious.
The Good: The prose is excellent, beginning to end. The author adds nice philosophical touches that make the story unusually ...more
The Good: The prose is excellent, beginning to end. The author adds nice philosophical touches that make the story unusually ...more
I expected this to drag and it didn't. Maybe it was the weather or the old cloth binding of the book, but it made me nostalgic for summer days as a little girl reading with my grandma.
It is good lit. It has enough twists and turns to keep my interest without boring me or making me wish to be done. In fact I'm kinda sad that I already offered this to someone because I'd like to read it again.
There's quite a bit about love and loss and living your own life; a fair amount of...more
It is good lit. It has enough twists and turns to keep my interest without boring me or making me wish to be done. In fact I'm kinda sad that I already offered this to someone because I'd like to read it again.
There's quite a bit about love and loss and living your own life; a fair amount of...more
It has been a long time since I read a book that made me get out a pen and mark passages that I want to remember later, but I marked up this book. This is the first book I've read by Iris Murdoch and I was very impressed. So many of the reflective moments really seemed important to me -- not just important thoughts within the story, but important thoughts for me to think in my life.
In this story, found the main character very interesting and the plot events compelling. I cared a lot...more
In this story, found the main character very interesting and the plot events compelling. I cared a lot...more
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Irish-born British writer, university lecturer and prolific and highly professional novelist, Iris Murdoch dealt with everyday ethical or moral issues, sometimes in the light of myths. As a writer, she was a perfectionist who did not allow editors to change her text. Murdoch produced 26 novels in 40 years, the last written while she was suffering from Alzheimer d...more
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Irish-born British writer, university lecturer and prolific and highly professional novelist, Iris Murdoch dealt with everyday ethical or moral issues, sometimes in the light of myths. As a writer, she was a perfectionist who did not allow editors to change her text. Murdoch produced 26 novels in 40 years, the last written while she was suffering from Alzheimer d...more
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“I hate solitude, but i'm afraid if intimacy. The substance of my life is a private conversation with myself which to turn into a dialogue would be equivalent to self-destruction. The company which I need is the company which a pub or a cafe will provide. I have never wanted a communion of souls. It's already hard enough to tell the truth to oneself.”
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