The Sea, the Sea
Charles Arrowby, leading light of England's theatrical set, retires from glittering London to an isolated home by the sea. He plans to write a memoir about his great love affair with Clement Makin, his mentor both professionally and personally, and to amuse himself with Lizzie, an actress he has strung along for many years. None of his plans work out, and his memoir evolve...more
Paperback, 495 pages
Published
March 1st 2001
by Penguin Classics
(first published 1978)
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Of course you are going to want to know why I’m not reading another page of this book. Of course, you are going to want to know why, should I ever find myself near to Murdoch – and I mean Iris, whose crimes against humanity already strike me as not so far away as you might think, from the other one’s – and should I have a loaded shooting device at hand, I will ask her, donning an insincere smile intending to look pacific, what the capital crime punishment is hereabouts. Of course I will be think...more
Truth be told, I was scared of the book. Scared of its length, scared I might not like it enough to finish it (I'm very frustrated when I can't finish books - I always feel it's my fault).
Thank goodness Murdoch really knows how to write, I actually loved reading "The Bell" a couple of years ago and I promised myself I'd keep on reading Murdoch. But I never knew which one to continue with, and, yes, I was scared of their length :). And I chose this one because it was mentioned in a really nice in...more
Thank goodness Murdoch really knows how to write, I actually loved reading "The Bell" a couple of years ago and I promised myself I'd keep on reading Murdoch. But I never knew which one to continue with, and, yes, I was scared of their length :). And I chose this one because it was mentioned in a really nice in...more
I bought this book from Booksale Baguio in April 2009 for P30. After reading the book, I thought I would not mind paying P800.00 to read such a wonderful novel. This is included in the 501 Must Read Books and a finalist in Man Booker Prize.
I like the way Dame Iris Murdoch developed her characters and the way she introduced them in the plot. I read this in 5 working days (Monday to Friday) and did most of the readings a home (some in the gym while resting). In the morning, I put the book by my si...more
I like the way Dame Iris Murdoch developed her characters and the way she introduced them in the plot. I read this in 5 working days (Monday to Friday) and did most of the readings a home (some in the gym while resting). In the morning, I put the book by my si...more
Murdoch´s characters are never likable people, they are usually, childish, selfish, obsessive and awful and you can hardly like them at all. But that is what makes her novels so fun. She always knows how to tangle you up in their troubles, lies, betrayals, and tragedies, their ambivalence and doubt,and she gets me at every turn. Charles Arrowby, the main character in this book is no better than any of them. He is en egotist who is impossible to sympathize with because his troubles seem so banal....more
I found this both repelling and compulsive, and the more repulsed I became the less capable I seemed of putting it down. I was hooked just several pages in, enamored with the elegant, elegiac tone of Charles Arrowby's attempts at composing a memoir/diary after exiling himself to a remote seaside home to live in monastic isolation. Via Arrowby, Murdoch's prose takes on a sea-like quality, the ebb-and-flow of memories and musings churning together present and past to the point where the edges of r...more
This is a good meditation on first love and the holiness we ascribe it after the fact. It muses on our responsibilities (romantic and otherwise) to ourselves and others, the notion of karma and comparison, what we learn from the various relationships we end up in and how well we behave ourselves. The writing is very good in parts, character development is amazing and the examination of the internal life is challenging. It is however at times farcical, hasty, uneven and the theme of mysticism is...more
Aug 14, 2008
Alison
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4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Adults. Who love lunch and sea serpents.
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Thanks for the rec, Torie, you knew this was right up my alley!
This is probably a 4.5. I was wary about reading Murdoch again after Under the Net, which I didn't enjoy at all. This one had everything that I love in life and don't often find united in a novel: elaborate planning for simple tasty lunches; the English seaside; ludicrous and highly improbable action (a sea monster? Can anything more awesome possibly show up in a heretofore realist novel?); and a lot of thought about how to be good and how to love.
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I have read a number of her books and I like this one the best even though the end section is implausible. The story is about a retired actor who moves from London to the Cornwall to live by the sea. Here, he becomes obsessed with his first girlfriend, who he sees, by chance in a local town.
Iris Murdoch's are like intellectual pscyhological soap operas and this has everything in it.
Iris Murdoch's are like intellectual pscyhological soap operas and this has everything in it.
Charles Arrowby is a director/playwright/actor who has retired to a small, ramshackle cottage by the sea. He wants to write a journal and has trouble getting started, as he's also wandering around exploring his new surroundings, swimming, collecting rocks in the tide pools, and cooking ghastly meals that he thinks are delicious. It soon becomes clear that he is the most unreliable of narrators. He sees something in the sea that can only be a delusion, and he attributes it to an old experience wi...more
This is my first time reading Iris Murdoch, and I thoroughly enjoyed her! Her prose is lush, the characters are intense and flawed personalities who are far from perfect, but are perfect for who they are, and her humor is delightfully dark (velvety blue, nigh black)...hey, she writes my kind of book! It had the flow of a well-tuned engine that toured along at a steady clip that kept the pages turning. I dog-eared several places with awesome chunks of writing that I will want to revisit later. Th...more
"The novel concerns a retired theater director who moves to the seashore in order to contemplate his life. He recalls how an adolescent love which he greatly idealized prohibited him from committing himself completely to any of the important women in his life. Coincidentally, he meets the woman again and tries to resume his love affair but she won't have him..." Some evocative prose from Iris Murdoch. As she explores the potent mixture of power, illusion, and self-delusion in retired actor, play...more
This was my first time with Iris Murdoch. I was drawn to her simple yet ellaborate prose, her fine rhythm, all bolstered by her expertise in psychology.
Here we have the memoirs of Charles Arrowby. The story he tells is brutal and haunting, not always on the surface but mostly in the characters' psyches. These poor people should not be dealing with each other, but somehow out of their interaction comes a sense not just of redemption but also of transcendence. Arrowby is a despicable man--here he...more
Here we have the memoirs of Charles Arrowby. The story he tells is brutal and haunting, not always on the surface but mostly in the characters' psyches. These poor people should not be dealing with each other, but somehow out of their interaction comes a sense not just of redemption but also of transcendence. Arrowby is a despicable man--here he...more
This is right up there with late Henry James, or perhaps Mann's "The Magic Mountain". Murdoch was a fine moral philosopher, and I would recommend to anyone that (s)he carefully read at least the first chapter of her "Metaphysics as a Guide to Morals" in order to better understand the philosophical underpinnings of this novel. The characters are unbearably self-absorbed, and beautifully drawn. The first-person voice of retired theatrical director Charles Arrowby will pursue you through your dream...more
I briefly considered putting this book down about halfway through because I was so fed up with the controlling, manipulative narrator and the utter passivity of his love object. I kept on because I was fascinated with how skillfully Murdoch managed not only the unreliable voice of the narrator, but the unreliability of all the characters. And it is, as one of my back cover blurbs promised, something of a page-turner. I'm glad I didn't give in to that brief urge because I liked this book a great...more
Originally published on my blog here in March 2001.
Charles Arrowby, narrator of The Sea, The Sea, is an egoist; but, as he himself points out, does that make him so exceptional? Much of the novel is about how we control others, and how what we know of others is filtered through our own ideas and desires. Even his profession (theatrical director) is an aspect of this.
Now retired, Charles has bought himself a house by the sea. There, he begins an autobiogrphy, but soon discovers that one of the pe...more
Charles Arrowby, narrator of The Sea, The Sea, is an egoist; but, as he himself points out, does that make him so exceptional? Much of the novel is about how we control others, and how what we know of others is filtered through our own ideas and desires. Even his profession (theatrical director) is an aspect of this.
Now retired, Charles has bought himself a house by the sea. There, he begins an autobiogrphy, but soon discovers that one of the pe...more
The sea, the sea is a tale of a self satisfied retired man.
Charles Arrowby is a successful playwright and director, during his working life he lived in London.
For many reason he decides to write his memoir in a remote location washed by the sea he will be haunted by the philosophical meaning of masks wore during his plays.
During his voyage he will discover his true personality made of egotism, selfishness and the meaning of love which is interpreted by Mary Hartley Fitch and Lizzie.
“But now the...more
Charles Arrowby is a successful playwright and director, during his working life he lived in London.
For many reason he decides to write his memoir in a remote location washed by the sea he will be haunted by the philosophical meaning of masks wore during his plays.
During his voyage he will discover his true personality made of egotism, selfishness and the meaning of love which is interpreted by Mary Hartley Fitch and Lizzie.
“But now the...more
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Iris Murdoch's "The Sea, The Sea" is the tale of Charles Arrowby, a narcissistic actor/director who retires to Shruff End, a gloomy seaside home to write his memoirs. His peace and quiet is quickly interrupted by a bevy of girlfriends past, including a chance encounter with Mary Hartley Smith, his first love.
Arrowby is at once smitten and obsessed with Hartley and the book becomes a complicated tangle of jealousy, obsession and possibly even madness. The line between reality and fiction (in Arro...more
Arrowby is at once smitten and obsessed with Hartley and the book becomes a complicated tangle of jealousy, obsession and possibly even madness. The line between reality and fiction (in Arro...more
I know two grown men who left what seemed to be perfectly good long term relationships to be with their childhood sweethearts, causing mayhem for their other family members, so I was intrigued by this novel about a man pursuing his childhood sweetheart, wanting to find out the reasons why the novelist thought he did so and the result. Charles Arrowby is a thoroughly irritating man - but his childhood sweetheart is no great shakes either, apart perhaps for her loyalty (not seen this way by Charle...more
'Don't take anything personally' is the second agreement that we should make with ourselves according to Don Miguel Ruiz in his self-help book, The Four Agreements. We are all trapped within our own “dreams,” or our own “bubbles” as an acquaintance of mine once put it, and as such we cannot perceive the thing-itself, the truth as it really is. We can only see our own projections of each other, and we treat each other accordingly. Therefore, I cannot take your behavior personally--meaning, I can'...more
The Sea, The Sea, much like Oscar and Lucinda, is one of those books that I appreciated for being excellent literature but without enjoying it as much as I might have hoped. My main stumbling block was the main character, Charles Arrowby. I have no quibbles with Murdoch as a writer; she is obviously
gifted. She manages to be both blunt and mysterious -- she writes clear prose that shows but does not tell (neither she nor her characters lecture us). She creates characters and scenes of depth and l...more
gifted. She manages to be both blunt and mysterious -- she writes clear prose that shows but does not tell (neither she nor her characters lecture us). She creates characters and scenes of depth and l...more
The Sea, the Sea—what a powerful image it creates in this book. In Iris Murdoch’s novel the sea can kill and the sea can save. Water and swimming are significant symbols in this novel. Charles Arrowby, an aging theatre director and actor retires to a creaky old house on a rocky area by the sea, He wants to get away from London life and simply watch life unwind before his eyes. He decides to write his memoir,
In the beginning of the novel he begins his journal rambling and muddling through all kin...more
In the beginning of the novel he begins his journal rambling and muddling through all kin...more
I had wanted to read this book for a while having understood that it was probably Murdoch's best book and had been nominated for the Booker Prize. However I always erred towards some of her other more approachable books. Anyway this year I took the plunge and bought it. The edition I bought had a 20 page introduction by some academic which very nearly put me off. If you buy that version don't let it put you off.
I've read the book and really enjoyed it. For me it is about love, what it is, what i...more
I've read the book and really enjoyed it. For me it is about love, what it is, what i...more
When I started it, I was quite skeptical as it struck me rather self-consciously affected, but by the end I was completely won over - it was hilarious and very clever. There are ideas in it that I still come back to frequently, and it might be the best writing yet on the incongruity and unfathomable nature of human relationships, compounded by all the social constructions and projections that surround us - variously uncontrollable, intentional, or miscalculated. We are doomed to only know our ow...more
Tedious! I may have enjoyed this book better were it about 200 pages shorter. At its current length, I think old Murdoch is really indulging herself. I can see that she is an excellent writer (in her descriptions of the sea and the delightfully simple food paragraphs) but I was overwhelmed by the histrionics and general inability to make the reader care about any of these ridiculous and unbelievable characters. Her prose reminds me of watching American movies made 40-50 years ago, you know, the...more
Oh, such mixed feelings about this book. Had you asked me my feelings about this novel half way through reading it, you would have seen my face scrunch up in frustration and I would say, “spare yourself from this novel which is strictly the ramblings of a completely self-absorbed and delusional idiot man for whom you will have no sympathy.” BUT…having finished it I can honestly say if you are able to get past the first two hundred pages (either for being a glutton for punishment or attempting to...more
From the opening passage, this book enveloped me. Everything: Murdoch's language, the beautiful construction of her story, the vividly presented backdrop, the scathingly subtle black humor, the ease in which she depicts the self deceptions of the spiritual life and the difficulty in navigating the line that separates imagination and fantasy and the ease in which she voices her male narrator.
Charles Arrowby, is a parodically self absorbed, vain, womanizing cretin. A successful theatre director,...more
While reading this book I constantly went back and forth between really liking it and really not knowing what I thought about it. The narrator is a fascinating man (Charles). He is a retired actor, and quite full of himself, who retires and moves to an old castle-like home on the sea. The description of his day to day life is simple and very interesting (I love his discussions of food and swimming).
But then things become increasingly outrageous as he runs into a past love and is joined at his ho...more
But then things become increasingly outrageous as he runs into a past love and is joined at his ho...more
The narrator of The Sea, The Sea is Charles Arrowby, an unreliable narrator extraordinaire! He's an aging actor/director, who decides to retire to peaceful solitude by the sea, a fantasy beloved of so many. He buys a horrid little house called Shruff's End which is besieged by damp and void of amenities such as electricity and heating. Still, in summer the sea is lovely, and the weather is warm, and all seems well...
Murdoch's specialty is irony, and before long the reader becomes aware of Charle...more
Murdoch's specialty is irony, and before long the reader becomes aware of Charle...more
I almost don't know how to review this - because whilst I was reading it, and when I just finished it, I HATED it!
I thought it was too pompous, too long-winded, too philosophical, too self-indulgent.
Then I forgot about it for a while, and it popped into my mind about a month after I finished. I could now think of it from a 'bird's eye view' or something - I was literally imagining the creaky cold house on the hill by the shore, as though from above. I imagined Arrowby pottering around, pretendi...more
I thought it was too pompous, too long-winded, too philosophical, too self-indulgent.
Then I forgot about it for a while, and it popped into my mind about a month after I finished. I could now think of it from a 'bird's eye view' or something - I was literally imagining the creaky cold house on the hill by the shore, as though from above. I imagined Arrowby pottering around, pretendi...more
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Dame Jean Iris Murdoch
Irish-born British writer, university lecturer and prolific and highly professional novelist, Iris Murdoch dealt with everyday ethical or moral issues, sometimes in the light of myths. As a writer, she was a perfectionist who did not allow editors to change her text. Murdoch produced 26 novels in 40 years, the last written while she was suffering from Alzheimer disease.
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Irish-born British writer, university lecturer and prolific and highly professional novelist, Iris Murdoch dealt with everyday ethical or moral issues, sometimes in the light of myths. As a writer, she was a perfectionist who did not allow editors to change her text. Murdoch produced 26 novels in 40 years, the last written while she was suffering from Alzheimer disease.
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“Then I felt too that I might take this opportunity to tie up a few loose ends, only of course loose ends can never be properly tied, one is always producing new ones. Time, like the sea, unties all knots. Judgements on people are never final, they emerge from summings up which at once suggest the need of a reconsideration. Human arrangements are nothing but loose ends and hazy reckoning, whatever art may otherwise pretend in order to console us.”
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“emotions really exist at the bottom of the personality or at the top. in the middle they are acted. this is why all the world is a stage.”
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