Children of Dune (Dune Chronicles #3)
But there are those who think the Imperium does not need messiahs...
Book 3 of the Dune Chronicles
By Frank Herbert
A Dune Retrospective by Eric Allen.
This book is a bit of a hard one for me to rate, because parts of it are so good, while others are so not. Everyone likes to say that Dune Messiah is a bridge between the events of Dune and Children of Dune. However, most people do not realize two things about this series. First was that Herbert meant to stop after Dune Messiah. And Second, when he finally decided he had more story to tell, seven ye...more
The first book is truly excellent. It's mantra on fear alone makes it great.
The second book a very good sci-fi novel.
The third book is merely okay.
The fourth book is sub-par, but still interesting.
The fifth book is a pain in the ass to read.
The sixth book will leave you concerned about the author's health, so terribad is the writing.
But hey, the first book kicks ass!
But Children of Dune manages to combine some of that accessibility with the complex ideas of the first book, and I was quite frankly captivated by the central dilemma of the Atreides twins. While I've enjoyed this other Dune books so far, this was the first that I was genuinely eager to get back to every day.
Yes, CoD went a lot further in analyzing religion and society than the previous book which I found interesting, but more interesting was the current day metaphor with society's "progress" without regard to the costs involved. Who is going to pay for our excesses today, and how will they go about fixing them?
The Preacher seemed a powerful figure at the beginning of the story, but by the end I almost felt sorr...more
What can I say about the plot without giving anything away? It was far-reaching, character-filled, and cerebral. There is a short slump in the middle where I felt like Herbert could have cut this into two n...more
Why review a book in 2007 which originally came out nearly a half-century ago?
Because I just reread it this week, and now I remember why it has always been my favorite of all the Dune books.
In the unlikely event that you don't already know the story, herewith a very brief plot summary: About ten thousand years from now, on a planet that used to be an almost-uninhabitable desert but which is now slowly turning green, two nine-year-old children, a boy and a girl-- tw...more
(described by me in an English assignment that I did at 5 AM while pulling an all-nighter)
Warning: Contains bad prose by a tired, annoying 11th grader from before he knew how to write well.
Children of Dune was a book that I wanted to read. Dune is among my most cherished novels, but I by and large disliked its first sequel (Dune Messiah) due to reasons that can be briefly summarized here for the sake of explaining why I looked...more
The book deals with Paul's twin children, primarily his son Leto. Due to the special nature of their f...more
Children of Dune dealt very heavily with prescience-motivated-manipulation. Paul and Chani's twin, pre-born children -- Leto II and Ghanima -- basically run the show in this book. There isn't much that I can say without revealing the plot, except to say t...more
notes from college days...
death as theme, death was the ultimate philosopher. to kill is still the verb of decision/ of
embracing religion: to kill comes
from "the left hand of the damned"
Left hand is associated with the Devil.
"right hand of the blessed"
Jesus sits at the right hand of God.
Blessed is the Virgin Mary
Messiah found: a reference to the Second Coming? the arrival the Messiah is the end of t...more
The third of Herbert's Dune novels marks the end of the first section of the series, with thousands of years now set to elapse before the next novel, God Emperor of Dune. With the exception of the classic first book, Children of Dune is probably the best of the series.
The psychological centre of this book is an investigation of what it would mean to be one of the "pre-born". These are three of the four descendants of Duke Leto Atreides and hi...more
The problem with this part of the Dune series is the fact that a classic has evolved into a family story without much of a plot. Riding on the comfort of knowing that most of his characters are already well-established and well-loved (I do not add equally well-hated as all of the 'bad guys' tend to be wiped out at the end of every book in this series), Herbert proceeds to throw in another tale to preach to us more inspiring ideals. I wish...more
I loved the first book, Dune and rated it a full five stars. After the epic sweep of the first book, the immediate sequel might seem underwhelming. Even just looking at both books, the first looks very slender compared to the first book's doorstopper thickness. The second book is far more intimate really in its the...more
I absolutely loved the first two books, they were brilliant. This book was very good, but not as good as the first two. The main problem in my eyes is that the book felt like it was meant to be 800-1000 pages but ended up being cut by half or more. The result is that there is a ton of characters who all play a fairly minor part in the...more
All that is to say while this book is a really good read, be warned: the story DOES NOT end here, an...more
GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!
Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.
1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...
2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil the Original Dune series in any way, and you could...more
Also: You know how when you read any given fiction, no matter the quality, you manage to find one character who you like/can emphasize with/who you're sort of rooting for to not get totally screwed over by whatever's happening. Man, not the Dune books. I came t...more
Frank Herbert, that is. His science fiction universe has come to embody everything that another seminal epic of our time, “Star Wars,” cannot: subtlety and mystery. “Children of Dune” is the third installment in the series and centers on the vicissitudes of a power struggle involving Paul Atreides’ sister and his children. This in a vacuum created by Muad’Dib since his disappearance into the desert at the end of the second novel, “Dune Messiah.”
Arrakis will ever be the st...more
Children of Dune is one of those books which is curiously surpassed by the movie (in this case, the SciFi/SyFy movie by the same name). Don't get me wrong: Children of Dune as a book is much richer in terms of musings about the nature of time, prescience, and depth, but the movie just captures the emotional nature of the primary storyline with greater clarity.
To give a brief synopsis, Children of Dune centers on Dune shortly after the time of Muad'Dib (Paul Atreides). A theocracy has taken over...more
I'm sure there are lots of Herbert fans out there who loves the rest of the series and think they are the most amazing things ever. I'm not one.
That kind of sums up my experience with this book. It doesn't have all the action of the first book, and it doesn't quite have the pathos of the second. It does have lots of scheming done by people who are trained to guess three steps ahead of their opponents, and I don't always follow the decisions these people make because I am not a Bene Gesserit witch (although I kind of wish I was). I did understand more about the universe this takes place in; at some...more
Too much of this novel was Herbert bandying words with the reader. No matter how much I attempted to diffuse his diction, there were sentences/paragraphs/entire pages that I simply could not make sense of. That certainly detracted from the experience, hence the 4-star rating. I learned to skip the chapter-opening monologues as those seemed to be the worst offenders, and this significantly extended my patience for the novel without excluding too...more
He is best known for the novel Dune and its five sequels. The Dune saga, set in the distant future and taking place over millennia, dealt with themes such as human survival and evolution, ecology, and the intersection of religion, politics, and power, and is widely considered to be among the classics in the field of...more