Violence Girl: East L.A. Rage to Hollywood Stage, a Chicana Punk Story

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Violence Girl: East L.A. Rage to Hollywood Stage, a Chicana Punk Story

by Alice Bag (Goodreads Author)

4.16 of 5 stars 4.16 · rating details · 180 ratings · 32 reviews

The proximity of the East L.A. barrio to Hollywood is as close as a short drive on the 101 freeway, but the cultural divide is enormous. Born to Mexican-born and American-naturalized parents, Alicia Armendariz migrated a few miles west to participate in the free-range birth of the 1970s punk movement. Alicia adopted the punk name Alice Bag, and became lead singer for The B...more

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Feb 25, 2013 Osvaldo rated it 4 of 5 stars

For about the first third of Violence Girl I was in love with this book. First of all, I am a sucker for the format of the vignette memoir. Secondly, I appreciated the conversational and qualified tone wherein Bag admits that her memory may be faulty. This is how she remembers things and that means there are holes and occasional contradictions - and that's alright. Thirdly (and most importantly), I was enamored of the story of a Chicana girl's experience in the nascent L.A. punk scene in the 197...more

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Aug 27, 2012 Beth martinez rated it 5 of 5 stars

This book is a fantastic narrative history of Alice Bag. It is self penned, and starts with the beginning of her life and takes the reader through to her time in her punk band the Bags that most of us know through Decline of Western Civilization. The last chapters of the book cover aspects of her life now, and also stories of some of her post-punk/goth musical ventures that came after the Bags.

Her story is one that most of us can relate to, but anyone who has spent anytime in the LA punk scene w...more

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Jun 03, 2012 Dorit Dowler-Guerrero rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: los-angeles-peoples-history

I did not set out to read this book. I walked into the library and the librarian aid was so happy to let me know they had a copy in stock of Violent Girl. I like the bands Alice Bags had played in (especially Cholita) but I am not one to read punk (or any type of music) auto biographies. But the librarian aid was acting like she saved the book just for me and I didn’t want to hurt her feelings so I check it out.
Well after the first few (very short) chapters I was hooked! Alice did not start out...more

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May 24, 2012 Liz rated it 4 of 5 stars

With Violence Girl, I'm completely biased: Alice Bag is my hero. I will say that this book is written with nothing but heart. Each entry is like a short blog (one to two pages), and each chapter builds to show a transformation from Alice Bag's abusive childhood to Punk Rock Queen to educator. A lot of ground is covered very quickly, and that would be my only criticism. But even so, every important part of Alice's life is there for readers to observe and take whatever they want from it. Alice is...more

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Mar 09, 2013 Desiree rated it 4 of 5 stars

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. I read mainly pop culture auto/biographies these days, and this is one of the few I've encountered that I would describe as thoughtful.

The reader first meets Alicia Armendariz, a chubby misfit trying to escape a childhood encompassing financial poverty, domestic abuse, bullying, gangs, and racial discrimination. Black and white photos in the margins, in which she's always smiling, underscore that the truth is grey -- few people or circumstances are entirely good or bad, but usually a combination...more I read mainly pop culture auto/biographies these days, and this is one of the few I've encountered that I would describe as thoughtful.

The reader first meets Alicia Armendariz, a chubby misfit trying to escape a childhood encompassing financial poverty, domestic abuse, bullying, gangs, and racial discrimination. Black and white photos in the margins, in which she's always smiling, underscore that the truth is grey -- few people or circumstances are entirely good or bad, but usually a combination of the two.

Staccato chapters the length of a Germs song chronicle her transformation into Alice Bag, frontwoman of a first wave West Coast punk band. Some of the names casually dropped are grand (Belinda Carlisle moves in down the hall!) yet tragic (you know what ultimately happens to Sid Vicious), though most of these musicians elude mainstream recognition. I found that Alice was modest about the quality of these bands -- especially for young'uns who "didn't know how to play their instruments," the songs are catchy, tight, and stand up well thirty years later. To judge for yourself, here's my favorite song by her band and by her first boyfriend's band.

Anyways, much of the text revolves around this period of her life, and compellingly captures why she was drawn to this culture. Punk is depicted a space where anything goes, where broke kids from broken homes could figure out how to be their own heroes, though this same freedom incubates the rampant drug abuse that destroys many of her peers.

Alice's gender, race, and relative obscurity helps make her vantage point more complex but relatable than a history from yet another dude with huge name recognition. She is an outsider amongst outsiders, with keen attention to detail: "...the Deaf Club...had been built as an actual club for the deaf in the 1930s. By the late 1970s, it functioned as a rental hall for special events until punk rock entrepreneur Robert Hanrahan decided to rent the place to book punk shows. He had to complete the rental transaction by passing a notepad back and forth to the club owners. It seemed like a perfect arrangement, because no one would complain about the loud music. I don't think anyone expected it, but what happened is that punk in San Francisco began to gain a large audience of deaf people who frequented the shows at that venue, bringing a wonderful new perspective to what we were doing. I started to notice the unique way in which the deaf reacted to our playing and energy onstage. I remember watching a young woman as we were performing one night. She clung to the PA speakers, absorbing the vibrations with her whole body. Her face never looked away from me as she reacted to the energy onstage with a full-bodied bear hug of the speaker cabinet, and her head swaying to the rhythm of the music; she was at one with the music in a way most people would never experience."

Ultimately, the book closes with the protagonist finding a different kind of peace as Mrs. Velasquez, an inner city teacher with a philosophy degree, trying to help her students avoid the bullshit she went through growing up. And still making music, of course.
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Sep 25, 2011 Bitteroldpunk rated it 4 of 5 stars

Alice Bag's memoir is less about the first-wave LA punk scene that she was such an integral part of and more about family, growing up, finding yourself, and testing your limits. A discursive book written in short chapters, "Violence Girl" is a quick read, even though it's more than 300 pages long. Alice's voice shines through -- a thoughtful, confrontational, sometimes confused but rarely cowed woman, Alice goes from being an awkward, overweight teenager with an Elton John obsession and crooked...more Alice Bag's memoir is less about the first-wave LA punk scene that she was such an integral part of and more about family, growing up, finding yourself, and testing your limits. A discursive book written in short chapters, "Violence Girl" is a quick read, even though it's more than 300 pages long. Alice's voice shines through -- a thoughtful, confrontational, sometimes confused but rarely cowed woman, Alice goes from being an awkward, overweight teenager with an Elton John obsession and crooked teeth to being the lead singer of the seminal proto-hardcore band, The Bags. Along the way, she befriends and bemuses a bevy of LA scenesters like creepy impressario Kim Fowley; doomed, nihilistic Darby Crash of The Germs; the women who would become The Go-Gos; Patricia Morrison, who co-founded The Bags and would go on to be in both The Gun Club and influential Goth act Sisters of Mercy; even Tom Waits makes a cameo. But the book is more than a name-dropping trek across the glittery landscape of late-70s Los Angeles. It's about struggling with family and faith, it's about reconciling ambition with reality, and it's about how punk rock's D.I.Y. ethos helped a young woman define herself and claim her place in the world. While many in the early punk scene burned bright and died young, Alice Bag seems made of sterner stuff. Near the end of the book, readers get a glimpse of her post-punk rock trajectory -- she travels to Managua, Nicaragua at the height of US meddling in Nicaraguan affairs and finds a country stripped to the bone and surviving on little more than willpower and pride. I wish this section of the book had been longer, and I would have enjoyed hearing more of the tantalizing anecdotes she only hints at. A love affair with a prisoner? Rebuffing an invitation to dinner with Oprah? Tell me more! Ans that's what I take from this book: Alice's voice. Wise, wry, funny, bold, and honest, it's a voice I wanted to spend more time with. Violence Girl and Babylonian Gorgon -- Alice Bag is an undeniable original, and you'll enjoy your time with her. Well worth reading.(less)

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Feb 02, 2012 Leah rated it 4 of 5 stars

This book, being quick, visual, and overall well written, is a great read. Alice Bag's story is entertaining, for both good and bad reasons. Reading about LA punk's very first trials from an honest, crucial female figure was almost endearing (even with all of the unfortunate elements), and despite other reviews' claims on this, the punk scene gets a heavy number of pages.

One short coming of the book, though, is that the subtitle is fairly misleading. "A chicana punk story", I was expecting to r...more

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Sep 28, 2011 Kelly rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: first-reads, read-2011

I received this book through Good Reads’ First Reads program…
Violence Girl is an AWESOME read! Once I started, I had a very hard time putting the book down. Violence Girl is a memoir written by Alice Bag encompassing her upbringing in East L.A. and her involvement in the early punk scene in Hollywood. Her writing style is engaging, honest, and powerful.

The book explores her childhood and how ethnicity, language, religion, and violence in the home helped to shape her world view and to challenge w...more

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Jan 16, 2012 Jesse rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: read-in-2012

Really great background to the early LA punk scene, along with a strong history of the invaluable contributions of women and Latino folks to the emergence of punk on the West Coast. Not exceptionally well-written, but Bag makes up for the lack of writing finesse with tonnes of heart and great stories to tell. If anything, I'd like to have heard even more about the Latino background of LA punk-- she mentions all kind of people in passing who were Latino/Latina and it'd be great to piece together...more

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Apr 21, 2012 Broadsnark rated it 4 of 5 stars

A punk rock coming of age story. It was interesting to hear about how Bag got involved in music and it reminded me of a lot of the people I grew up around. But by far the best part of the book is her relationship with her father. We are so accustomed to categorizing someone as either hero or villain. It's rare to get a portrait of someone who was both. It is hard to imagine from the outside why people stay with abusers or how anyone can let go of it. People are complicated. And circumstances - l...more

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Oct 13, 2011 Jessica Silk rated it 5 of 5 stars

I love Alice Bag! She is so cool. Now that I'm done with gawking, I'll just say that I loved this book. I love that it's an autobiography. Her writing is really honest and welcoming. It's both smart and accessible. The chapters are short, so reading it is like meeting someone and getting to know all about their life through their stories and, at times, weaving their stories together to get a sense of who they are.

So many punk books are written by fanboys who are trying to prove what *they* know...more

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Nov 20, 2011 Kurt B. rated it 4 of 5 stars

As an L.A. punk memoir, this is right up there with Brendan Mullen's books. But there's much more to "Violence Girl," Alicia's whole back story about her childhood and family life, which better explains why she grew up to be such a compelling performer and versatile entertainer. This book originally began life as a blog, so the chapters are all just a few pages long, which makes this easy to pick up and put down as your day demands - although actually putting it down can be tough.

Also: I'm not...more

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Feb 24, 2013 Nestor Rychtyckyj rated it 4 of 5 stars

A really great read. I admit that I read this because I am a big fan of the early punk scene and knew a little about the Bags. I never did see the Bags (or any of her other musical collaborations), but I certainly was interested in what she had to say. This book is much more than about Alice, the punk rock singer - it's much more about Alicia and her journey through life. There is certainly a lot about the Bags and other early LA punk bands, but it is just part of the story and mot the focal poi...more

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Sep 19, 2012 Mel rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: 21st-century-non-fiction, autobiography, punk, queer

This book was really great. I know very little about the LA punk scene and this was an interesting first hand account of what happened. The book is an autobiography told in snippets. It chronicles the life of a Mexican girl growing up in East L.A. as here neighbourhood deterioates around her. One of the things that catagories the early chapters of the book is the incredible domestic violence that took place between her father and mother for most of her childhood. Incidents of horrid violence are...more

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Aug 10, 2012 Mariana rated it 3 of 5 stars

The book read like a collection of blog posts, which makes sense, since some of the stories come from Alice Bag's blog. Overall, it's really an interesting little love letter to her younger self, what punk music meant to her, and the early days of the Los Angeles punk scene. There are a lot of gems in this book, and I love and appreciate that Bag has decided to share some of the more intimate moments of her life with us, because life is long and complex, and almost never fits into cookie-cutter...more

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Jun 21, 2012 Stevie D rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Violence Girl. Run out and buy, steal or get it at your local library! I just finished this powerful book, it kick-starts my summer reading fodder off on the right foot!

Alice tells us the no holds barred story of her life, from her upbringing in an East L.A. barrio, thru the Hollywood Punk ranks, and is a glam refugee as am I. The story of her life is an open book for all! Pun intended! I was amazed at just how in touch she was, and is with herself, and her life story that is far, far from over...more Violence Girl. Run out and buy, steal or get it at your local library! I just finished this powerful book, it kick-starts my summer reading fodder off on the right foot!

Alice tells us the no holds barred story of her life, from her upbringing in an East L.A. barrio, thru the Hollywood Punk ranks, and is a glam refugee as am I. The story of her life is an open book for all! Pun intended! I was amazed at just how in touch she was, and is with herself, and her life story that is far, far from over as of this moment.

Every chapter unfolded like a punk rock song to me, short, fast, pure impact, no muss, no fuss. Each one has an energy of it's own. Another aspect of her story that personally affected me, was I too, was raised with Violence in my home. A couple, few men passed thru our doors and I was the recipient along with my mother of their full on physical violence! So I can relate to say the least. Until I got old enough to stand up to the last one, it never stopped. Unlike Alice who's father would give her the mixed message of Love the day after his transgressions, mine never did. Her relationship with him wound down as his life was leaving him, she forgave him and told him as much on his death bed. WOW! Powerful stuff! Listen up!

I was inspired by her sheer and often times brutal honesty along with her forthrightness in the telling of her story, which is one of the best that I have read in many a great while. It started out with her being a little girl, raised poor and with the fucked up society that surrounded her, schools, kids, gangs,and the Catholicness as well. So, the punk rock of Hollywood, right down the freeway, the original burst of energy wasn't that big of a stretch I saw. From The Bags, Decline Of Western Civilization, Castration Squad and to the others that followed, the story is laid out now for our pleasure.

One of Punks first daughters, Alice contributed mightily to the California scene. After completing school she moved from her parents house in East L.A. to the Hollywood, eventually taking up residence at The Canterbury. These apartments were a magnet for many a young punk. The roll call of quite a few bands future members met there, rehearsed there and called it home. The self destruction of drugs, and some of the casualties that come along with the life, were hitting closer and closer to home. It was at this point that Alice made the decision to go back to her parents to live.

From her parents home, Alice still played in bands and participated in Punks bursting scene. The decision she made was out of self preservation. She continued with her education from their quarters as well as see her parents relations with each other change to softer and loving. So much for the saying that you can't go back home. Alice's experience proved otherwise.

Later down the line in her story, she went to Nicaragua to work with people of that war torn country who were seeking education, she was like a education fighter! I'm certain those who's lives she touched will always remember her.

Some of it was painful to read, but Alice isn't a solicitor of sympathy by far and away. Just the opposite, the fact that she gained a super power of sorts thru her many life experiences, and took her wisdom she gained and went back into the education system to help others that struggle as did she, once upon a time. The Children.

I had the good fortune to see Alice come thru Phoenix last month, and perform at a space right down the street from house, only a few blocks away! Between her performance and Violence Girl, my fuse has been lit once again.

Alice is quite active too on so many levels, and I can say, for this old punk I saw the original punk spirit alive and well in Alice!

Beg, borrow or steal this book by all means. Of course there's always a branch of the Public Library too.

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Dec 28, 2011 Matt rated it 5 of 5 stars

Being a fan of the late seventies west coast punk scene, I ordered this book based on the author's history in the Bags, a band I had only heard of in relation to other bands of the time. I have to admit that I expected this book to be similar to other punk tomes I have read: either a sloppily written oral history or a breathless tell-all about the crazy punk days. What I got was so much more. Violence Girl is a universal coming of age story of a bright young artist who is struggling to come to t...more

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Nov 06, 2011 Tobi rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: feminist-theory, rock-n-roll, memoir, punk, activism, feminist-history, race, philosophy

Alice Bag wrote her memoir Violence Girl as a series of blog posts. She doesn't consider herself a writer. In that sense, this is a DIY punk book!

Growing up in the 80's hardcore era, The Bags were not well known to me for some reason. I don't know if their records were out of print or what but I don't remember hearing them until after Bikini Kill started. At the time, the NW was extremely isolated and there were huge gaps in my knowledge of punk history, which was not yet well documented and lar...more Alice Bag wrote her memoir Violence Girl as a series of blog posts. She doesn't consider herself a writer. In that sense, this is a DIY punk book!

Growing up in the 80's hardcore era, The Bags were not well known to me for some reason. I don't know if their records were out of print or what but I don't remember hearing them until after Bikini Kill started. At the time, the NW was extremely isolated and there were huge gaps in my knowledge of punk history, which was not yet well documented and largely accessible only in private collections and oral history. I don't really remember The Alice Bag Band from The Decline of Western Civilization for some reason either. I saw the movie a few times as a teen, once when it showed at Evergreen before I started going to shows (possibly when it came out?), but I mostly remember Darby and Black Flag. In the late 80's/early 90's Olympia got a video store or two and suddenly you could rent a handful of punk movies, which we circulated to no end (along with Over The Edge, which we watched constantly.) When I interviewed DC punk/artist/photographer Cynthia Connolly for Jigsaw in the mid-90's she talked about going to shows in LA and raved about how influential Alice Bag's was. That is when I started wanting to know more about The Bags and more about some of the female contributions to the early LA punk scene that I had missed out on by being too young and not living in California. So this book was a revelation to me. I wish it would have been around when I was a kid but it's really cool that it's available now.

Violence Girl doesn't talk about punk until you are already over a hundred pages into the story. I remember yelling on the couch: "SHE IS TALKING ABOUT PUNK ROCK!!!!" But the build up is great and the book totally pays off. Up until that point we get to know her as a misfit Elton John freak growing up in East LA not fitting into the Chicano/a community she was born into and we get the complicated story of her family, which was loving but also filled with violence. She writes about her experience with candid honesty, insight and humor. Another aspect of this book that I appreciated a lot was getting to hear about Alice Bag's life long interest in philosophy. One of the most exciting moments of the book for me was hearing her recount her falling out with Darby Crash, for philosophical reasons, who made fun of her because she believed in god. (She was raised Catholic, he was a Nihilist). When she performed and read from her book at the Olympia Timberland Library I hoped she would talk more about this but recognizing that someone probably doesn't want to talk about their dead friend in a public setting I didn't really want to bring it up in the Q&A so I just asked her to discuss philosophy a bit and she talked about how she has always been a very philosophical person, interested in exploring ideas and really analyzing what things mean. This tendency really comes through in her book, which is constructed as a series of anecdotes that are insightful as well as entertaining.

If you don't know about her Women in L.A. Punk site you should totally read everything on it, it's completely great and inspiring.(less)

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Feb 23, 2012 D.w. rated it 5 of 5 stars

This is one of the best books I have read in awhile. You couldn't put it down.
Alice describes her life with such truth and adventure and love for her family and friends.
This is a book that is TOO HARD to put down. When I was done, I think it took me a week to read, I was sad. Her stories were interesting and well written. I hope Alice puts out another book. I would look forward to buying and reading.

BRAVO Alice Bag for your amazing and brilliant book!

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Dec 21, 2012 Osa Atoe rated it 4 of 5 stars

Awesome and rare perspective from a Chicana punk rocker from the original days of LA punk. I loved reading about her childhood and home life and her other interests besides music (i.e. teaching, religion & philosophy). I thought the writing could have been more sophisticated, but appreciate the fact that Alice Bag, who does not consider herself to be a writer, wrote a book anyway, in the true spirit of punk rock.

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Mar 31, 2013 Todd Souvignier rated it 4 of 5 stars

I read this as an antidote and palate cleanser after Jack Grisham's American Demon, and her impressions of the Masque, the Canterbury, and Darby are key selling points. San Francisco friends: Britley Black appears in a pivotal sequence. This book also reminded me of the awesomeness and splendor of bassist Patricia Morrison.

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Jul 26, 2012 Daniel rated it 5 of 5 stars

I love this book! All the escapades young Alicia went through, I could totally relate to. I was very much enthralled by the time Miss Alice got into punk rock and moved to Hollywood, as I knew most of the people she mentioned.

Alice Bag

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May 29, 2012 Ryan Mishap rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: punk, personal-writing

True that I've never been a fan of the LA scene, but I do enjoy punk memoirs and personal writing so I was happy to receive this from Jesse. Oh, but it is nearly 200 pages before we even get to the punk stuff.

Okay, fine, still an interesting time period, place, and all that, but, darn it, it is clear Ms. Bag is not a fine writer.

What she does do well is produce snapshots of her life--the moments some omnipresent photographer would capture as the definitive scenes that make her the person she w...more

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Jul 05, 2012 Sarah rated it 5 of 5 stars

i loved this book. i love biographies, and sometimes they are kind of throwaways, but this one was great. she really went through her whole life. i loved the way she talked a lot about what motivated her, what she was thinking about, and about philosophy. she's obviously a thoughtful person. great read!

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Jan 24, 2013 Daniel rated it 4 of 5 stars

I'm glad that I read Henry Rollins piece in the LA Weekly where he recommended this book. The short chapters and large print makes this book easy to read. The pictures transport you to back in time to the birth of punk music. The material is fascinating and it is told in a compelling manner. The author puts you into the scene, you see and feel what she does. She knew people before they became famous. Like how she befriended Belinda Carlisle. As an Angelino I have intimate knowledge of many of th...more

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Nov 03, 2011 Allyson Shaw added it

I wanted to like this book, I really did. It let me down. I guess I wanted to hear more about the magical time of early LA punk and less about Alice Bag's childhood. I wanted more introspection and analysis as well as the feeling of what it was like to live through an exciting time-- the clothes, sounds, smells-- all the sensory stuff that makes a good story feel real.

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May 04, 2012 Scott rated it 4 of 5 stars

A unique exploration of the early LA punk scene through the lenses of race, class and gender.

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Jan 28, 2013 Thomas Marzella rated it 5 of 5 stars

I loved this book. Alice is an inspiration.

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Feb 22, 2012 Roxy A. rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Heart breaking yet funny at times. Glad someone's being honest about a different side of Chicana life. Alice was very brave to be so honest. Her story makes sense, it's real and completely original.

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May 22, 2012 Allison rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: first-reads

I was not a big fan of this book. I won it in a giveaway and thought that I would like it, but it turned out that it wasn't as interesting as I had thought. It was a simple read though.

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