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The Elder Gods (The Dreamers #1)

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Somewhere beyond the farthest pole of the world, the land of Dhrall lies anchored by the will of four powerful Gods. Able to bend reality to their whims and influence the lives of mortal men, these deities are still bound by the laws of nature and cannot take lives. Yet the Gods are not the only power. For in the center of Dhrall lives a voracious horror known as the Vlagh...more

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Mar 21, 2010 Jackie rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: fantasy

OK at best. Sloppy writing style, thin, unstimulating plot. Unimaginative characters, 2 dimensional, I couldn't form a bond with any of them, try as I might. And the gods themselves were dull and not that bright. The gratitutous usage of the word 'on' directly after verbs was just plain irksome; again, sloppy and distracted me in my annoyance. A few times OK, but all the time, it becomes intolerable rather quickly.
I find it hard to believe Eddings is touted as a great Fantasy Master. Maybe if he...more

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Apr 05, 2008 laureen rated it 1 of 5 stars

Ouch. Redundancy is the name of the game in this book. Every time a new character is added we get to read a recap of what we've read so far. Its a lot like listening to a 3 year old tell you about the trip to the zoo you just took. Over and over and over again. I think I'd have enjoyed the story otherwise. It's not a great literary work but could have been enjoyed as a nice fluffy diversion of a read...instead it never truly gave you the opportunity to get into what was happening or to care abou...more

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Jan 13, 2008 Tina rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: sff-fantasy

There is an evil entity in the Wastelands. It is creating minions to overrun the land of Dhrall. The four elder Gods of Dhrall attempt to combat this by creating young children known as dreamers (although these people aren't really young children and this is revealed fairly early on it the book). But the dreamers aren't enough and there aren't enough people in the land of the Dhrall to combat all the minions of the Vlagh. So the Elder Gods go out to recruit mercenaries from other lands and thus...more

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Feb 12, 2012 Jared rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: fantasy, a-z-authors-2010

Very disappointing. David Eddings seems to have given up on creating anything new. He puts the same characters in slightly different worlds. The Belgariad was phenomenal. The Malloreon was a rehash of the Belgariad, but good. The Elenium was quite good. With the Tamuli everything started to fall apart: the quality of his writing worsened and it became evident that his creativity had gone with it.

In this one, all of the supposedly strong-willed characters fall right into line. The little goddess...more

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Jan 16, 2009 Shaun Duke rated it 1 of 5 stars

David Eddings has earned himself a very strong reputation as a great fantasy writer. I am familiar with his earlier work simply because I have heard of it, but have not had the opportunity to read it. I imagine, though, that for those that are a fan of his work, this particular novel will read as less than amazing.
The four god siblings--Zelana, Veltan, Dahlaine, and Aracia--are on their way to going back to 'sleep' so that their counterparts can return to run the world for a while. But things ha...more David Eddings has earned himself a very strong reputation as a great fantasy writer. I am familiar with his earlier work simply because I have heard of it, but have not had the opportunity to read it. I imagine, though, that for those that are a fan of his work, this particular novel will read as less than amazing.
The four god siblings--Zelana, Veltan, Dahlaine, and Aracia--are on their way to going back to 'sleep' so that their counterparts can return to run the world for a while. But things have gone haywire when a long told event begins to take place. That-Called-the-Vlagh has begun assembling its armies and now wishes to control the world. But That-Called-the-Vlagh has begun in Zelana's domain first, where her people are nothing more than Native American-esque people who possess no technology whatsoever. Zelena finds she must convince her siblings and the people of their domains to help aid in the oncoming war.
(That is a severely diluted synopsis...quite frankly there is way too much going on for me to post an accurate synopsis without giving everything away).
The Elder Gods is not necessarily a terrible novel, but it is a severely lacking novel. The story begins much like a mythological tale would, which essentially is information the reader doesn't necessarily need at first. We generally can grasp the concept of multiple gods without need of explanation, and again we don't need an explanation of who the bad guys are from the start. Such information should be learned by the main characters.
The characters in this novel are varied. Some of the best characters should have remained the main human characters, but unfortunately Eddings goes off on some characters that really aren't all that important at all. Characters of note are: Captain Sorgan Hook-beak, Longbow, and Rabbit. There are secondary characters I liked too--Eleria especially. Now, Eddings runs into a problem I've mentioned before in reference to other books: he has way too many character viewpoints going on. Three would have sufficed, but Eddings switching POV not only in the beginning half, but in the second half as well. There is no clearly defined main character. Zelena, who starts as the main character, suddenly falls off into no-man's land and doesn't even get the benefit of being important towards the end of the book. Hook-beak, who should have had a greater presence, has the same issue towards the end as well. Rabbit, who we know about for a while and suddenly are thrown into his head, gains a presence half way through the book rather than having one earlier. I liked Rabbit, but the problem was that he wasn't really introduced until Longbow speaks to him. This POV jumping and what not really hurts the pace of the novel.
Another issue was that Eddings constantly has characters retell the same information to other characters. Rather than just saying "He told Hook-beak what Eleria had mentioned to him" or something of that nature, he goes on for huge paragraphs having the characters tell the information. This happens over and over until the last 30 pages when characters stop doing that and he simply does what I mentioned in the quotes. Why all of a sudden? I don't get it. But it wastes valuable time and space to have the characters do this over and over.
One thing I did notice about this book is that it is written almost as if it were intended for a younger audience. The language indicates this very much. That isn't a bad thing, but it does play out in how the individual characters speak, which comes off as somewhat unbelievable. Characters with huge reputations likely would not speak like 10 year olds.
Last of my issues was with the battles. I'm going to spoil this for everyone because I want to. Towards the end all these people from other continents have been paid to come out and fight the battle. Nothing bad happens to the army as it travels across a wide ocean. Then again, when they begin to fight the enemy, which is supposed to be somewhat of a hive mind, first a massive flood takes place that kills the first wave. Then a volcano explodes and kills the rest of the Vlagh army. Very few good guys actually die, which is disturbing because Eddings tries to make it seem like the Vlagh is actually rather sneaky, which would make for a rather prolonged and arduous battle. Needless to say, EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT FOR THE GOOD GUYS. Where's the conflict? Shouldn't something go wrong? Shouldn't something be hard?
Now, I've rambled on and on about this book. I personally would not recommend this to anyone unless you are a die hard Eddings fan. It is probably not even close to his best work. So, read at your own risk.(less)

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Nov 23, 2008 Jenni rated it 3 of 5 stars

In a land held sacred by the Elder Gods, a bug-like creature called the Vlaugh prepares to take control. The Elder gods are forbidden to kill and have always allowed nature to take its own course, but this time, if they do nothing their sacred land will be overrun. In their desperate attempt to save the land of Dhrall, they wake up the younger gods from their rest, but in a state of infancy resembling mortals. As they wait for the younger gods to grow up, they entice the outlying nations to come...more

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Jul 15, 2012 Stan Crowe rated it 2 of 5 stars

When I read the Eddings' flagship series--the Belgariad and the Mallorean--I knew I'd found a winner. Eddings (both of them) very quickly went on my "favourite authors" list simply because of those two series. David and Leighs' other work, Regina's song, also impressed me, even though they did seem to recycle many of the archetypes used in the aforementioned series.

I approached "The Elder Gods" with high expectations. Sadly, I was rather disappointed. The Eddings still had that same, witty writi...more

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Oct 02, 2011 Melyssa rated it 2 of 5 stars

I am honestly quite torn on this book (and entire series). I think that the world concept is fascinating, and has a ton of potential. The idea of two groups of gods who take turns running the world is a neat thought, with lots of opportunity for creativity and personalities.

Unfortunately, the Eddings do not follow through on either of those possibilities. Instead we get a re-hash of The Belgariad, down to having a stunningly beautiful female character who is the most amazing cook in the world. T...more

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Jul 10, 2009 Hollis rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: fantasy-fiction

I think some of the reviews here are a bit harsh. This was an unpretentious, fun fantasy. Aside from that...well, there are a lot of things aside from that.

I mean...this book is so formulaic, it's almost as if Mr Eddings has cracked open his 'How to Write a Fantasy Novel' Handbook and just gone through it ticking all the boxes. Map at the front of the book? You know it. A bunch of good guys who live in the south? Yep. A horde of foul-smelling bad guys who live in the North? I think so. But...sho...more

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Nov 12, 2009 Stan rated it 2 of 5 stars

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Feb 15, 2012 Quinn rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I'm spoiled. I started reading David Eddings with his series The Elenium and The Tamuli. I fell in love with those books. It was great Fantasy Lite reading and I ate all six books up. I followed them with The Belgariad and The Mallorean. And it was then I started seeing a pattern. The Redemption of Althalus confirmed it. David Eddings seemed to have a formula and he was determined to stick to it.

There isn't much imagination in Fantasy writing. It's nearly always about a quest and there is always...more I'm spoiled. I started reading David Eddings with his series The Elenium and The Tamuli. I fell in love with those books. It was great Fantasy Lite reading and I ate all six books up. I followed them with The Belgariad and The Mallorean. And it was then I started seeing a pattern. The Redemption of Althalus confirmed it. David Eddings seemed to have a formula and he was determined to stick to it.

There isn't much imagination in Fantasy writing. It's nearly always about a quest and there is always someone in that quest discovering something about themselves. There are massive battles, there are deaths and there are magical beings. This is found in all fantasy books, not just David Eddings'. But he hangs onto these tropes like his life depended on it. The verbal exchanges are almost the same, the buddy-buddy between the male characters. The female characters always needing love and affection physically; their habit of always being flighty and whimsical is the same as well. Each book/series of books can be laid side to side and lines of comparison drawn between everything.

I didn't mind it because the books were still enjoyable but- BUT in this book it's bordering on the ridiculous. The well rehearsed quips between characters are getting predictable, the small child who always wants kisses is now becoming annoying (where as in the Sparhawk series it was almost endearing), and the questing group of characters is back again with everyone filling in their required roles.

I don't want these books spoiling my enjoyment of the Sparhawk series but I'm starting to think less of Eddings because of his more lazy approach to the writing of fantasy.

I'll finish The Dreamers series, so I can say I have read all of Eddings' books. But I'd have to say these are not his best. And I would not direct a first timer to these. Read The Elenium, The Tamuli, The Begariad and The Mallorean in that order. And those books only. Love David Eddings for his good works. Don't let the other books spoil it.

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Oct 09, 2010 Marilag rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: 2010-reads, adventure, fantasy, high-fantasy

I tried really hard not to compare this to The Belgariad, but that attempt failed the moment I began reading. And then when I did start to compare the beginning of the two series, I got bored and found that I trudged through the pages just to see if anything interesting would occur.

And then....400 pages later, nothing. Absolutely nothing. From time to time, a little bit of action would take place. But chapter upon chapter spent most of it with a few people continually discussing the process with...more I tried really hard not to compare this to The Belgariad, but that attempt failed the moment I began reading. And then when I did start to compare the beginning of the two series, I got bored and found that I trudged through the pages just to see if anything interesting would occur.

And then....400 pages later, nothing. Absolutely nothing. From time to time, a little bit of action would take place. But chapter upon chapter spent most of it with a few people continually discussing the process with which these so called That-of-the-Vlagh would attempt to infiltrate and attack them. Yes, I'm aware Eddings likes a whole lot of chess and strategy (it was evident in his first high fantasy series). Okay, that's great. It's one thing to theorize one's next strategic move. It's definitely another to act upon them. And there was no acting. There was just ssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Hear that? ACTION SILENCE.

At least with Belgariad the characters were entertaining enough to keep my attention while they moved from one location to the next. There was a journey involved. Here, it's people congregating on different parts of the island, sharpening arrows and wondering about that gold in that cave where that cute little girl and that beautiful mentor are locked up in.

As for the characters, well, I was hoping he'd at least vary the women a bit. They're all Ce'Nedras and Polgaras. Except unlike Polgara, none of them pull off temper tantrums with more panache. The women are just dull. Zelana's supposed to be the most interesting one, but she just comes off as a spoiled hermit, and Eleria's supposed to be adorable, but she's just annoying as an alarm clock. Where are the Velvets? Ugh, lordy.

I thought about giving this a one-star rating, but there were some upsides. I liked the rest of the gods, Veltan particularly. Some of the characters mirrored Belgariad counterparts, too, albeit they are mere shadows. Rabbit, for example, is only a touch of Silk in all his glory, whereas Narasan is a shell of the fantastic Varana. The stuff written with the gods' search for their armies was pretty good, and it was only once the armies started congregating that things got from potentially good to horrendously boring. I kind of wanted to see Dahlaine and Aracia's choices of armies, but I don't think I'm tempted enough to pick up the rest of the series.

Bah. Silly book.(less)

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Mar 04, 2013 Albé Theunissen rated it 1 of 5 stars

I have read every single one of David Eddings' books, and thus are quite familiar with his style. There is no doubt that David's involvement with this series stretches only as far as his name on the cover. THE AUTHOR IS NOT DAVID EDDINGS!
It is probably the work of his wife, to which only his name was added as publisher's trick to sell copies.
I wasn't disappointed, I was disgusted! I forced myself to finish the series, not as easy job.
The storytelling is truly awful. Every book in the series has...more

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Dec 04, 2008 Jim rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: fantasy, sword-sorcery

No one in my family liked this series & we were all thrilled with his Belgariad series. There are 4 of us with varying tastes in fantasy & not one of us wanted to get the second book. We just couldn't like or identify with the main character or his issues. Blech.

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Aug 03, 2012 David Litwack rated it 2 of 5 stars

As a huge fan of the Belgeriad (and a lesser fan of the Mallorean--too much of a rip off of the first series), it pains me to write this review. But it certainly seems like the author was tired of writing this stuff or had become cynical and knew that his fans would read anything he wrote.

The entire Dreamers series seems quickly written, sparse, minimally editted and without much purpose for its existance. The dialog is stilted to the point of humor. Maybe the author was attempting an affectatio...more

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Jul 24, 2012 Noora rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: fantasia

Taattua Eddingsiä, niin hyvässä kuin pahassakin. Luojan kiitos, epäonnistuneen Reginan laulun jälkeen on palattu siihen, mikä osataan hyvin. Toistaiseksi eräs ominaisuus, joka mm. Belgarionin tarussa on pääosassa, eli rakkaus ja romantiikka, on puuttunut. Hyvä niin. Juoniaukkoja kyllä löytyy, fantasiassa niitä on tosin muutenkin paljon. Miten selitetään esimerkiksi se, etä jumalat, joiden pitäisi olla kaikkivoipia, eivät pystykään tekemään jotakin tiettyä asiaa. Tässä tällaisia aukkoja ei juurik...more

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May 27, 2008 Hilleary rated it 5 of 5 stars

I am almost done with it and i am loving it. David & Leigh Eddings really bring to life the wqorld they create. I love the elder gods charators and it really has a great seeting for the next 3 books.

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Nov 09, 2010 Jenn rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2010-finished, fantasy

This story took a long time to develop yet for the climatic battle I was sorely disappointed. With all the build up I had thought there would be this great long magical battle but there was none of that.

Something was severely lacking in this book. Character development of the gods was anything but satisfactory. The dreamers seemed to just appear without any real reason given.

The entire story just didn't seem to draw me in much. There were points that kept me interested and I finished it only be...more

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Dec 30, 2012 Roberta rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I'm a huge fan of Eddings work and of the man himself. I probably come at this from a slightly emotional place because I remember him coming into a bookstore where I worked to pick up our order of his book, Regina's Song, to take them home so he and his bride could sign them. This was a perk, I suppose, of living/working near such an amazing, kind, and talented man. He would sign all copies of his books and he would order a book of poetry every Valentine's Day for "his bride" as he always called...more I'm a huge fan of Eddings work and of the man himself. I probably come at this from a slightly emotional place because I remember him coming into a bookstore where I worked to pick up our order of his book, Regina's Song, to take them home so he and his bride could sign them. This was a perk, I suppose, of living/working near such an amazing, kind, and talented man. He would sign all copies of his books and he would order a book of poetry every Valentine's Day for "his bride" as he always called Leigh. I will be honest that this is not my favorite of his works, but at the time that Regina's Song came out I had started to wonder if he would ever put out more fantasy. Having been forewarned by our store owners and the manager that he would probably stop by and that he was a reserved man during his visits I curbed my excitement, helped him, and quietly told him that I had not read any of his fiction or joint works, but that I was a huge fan of his fantasy writing that I had read. At that point he thanked me and told me that he had several thousand words of a new fantasy work completed. After he left I went bouncing to the back office of our store where the store manager just shook her head and laughed at my enthusiasm. I never mentioned the new work to Mr. Eddings again, but when this book came out he remembered and he offered to personalize a signed copy. So I guess you can say that I was a fan who then grew a soft spot for one of my favorite authors. As for this book specifically...at times it moved a little slow, but I liked a number of the characters. Longbow dedicating his life to eradicating the object of his anger is somewhat trite, but it develops him for a larger purpose. He is that crusty character that you root for other, more easily likable, characters to succeed in cracking. Rabbit has many talents, but lives life dialing it back until his skills are leveraged for the cause. I've heard others say that these are recycled versions of older Eddings tales and I guess it's been long enough since I read them that I don't feel that way, but I also love each story for what it offers individually and I find that with each author I read there is a certain amount of carryover...themes that ring with them as they write and new twists as their own life experiences influence them and the way they write. I enjoy the developing interaction between the Maags and the Trogites as they are brought to help Zelana's people in Dhrall fight against the Vlagh. It's not perfect and the beginnings of their willingness to interact are tenuous and based in greed, but the bonds that grow as each side finds that their preconceived notions are not as solid as they thought add depth to what would otherwise be a straight, boring, they're paying us lets get it over with tale.(less)

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Oct 26, 2011 Trish rated it 2 of 5 stars

It’s been a long time since I read anything by the Eddings, but I remembered appreciating their work quite a bit, so I decided to pick up again with this series. Although the book was a bit slow-moving at times, I did enjoy the story overall. I especially liked the introduction of the Dreamers and the inner circle that formed as the book progressed.

Although this wasn’t as enjoyable as the Mercedes Lackey I have been reading lately, it was far better than Todd McCaffrey’s attempt to continue his...more

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Aug 06, 2010 Jason rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition

David Eddings is one of my favourite authors, Pawn of Prophecy is one of my favourite books of all time, brilliant! So imagine how much I was looking forward to reading The Elder Gods. How disappointed I was! A simple plot, obvious developments, repeated conversations over and over again and it was boring! One minor battle at the end and it wasn't even exciting, just a laborious description! Even the enemy sneaking up behind them through the caves was unexciting and so obvious I could see it a m...more

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Jan 15, 2011 Lisa rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2011-books-read

This one took me a bit to read, partly because I misplaced it for a bit, and then because I set it aside to finish another book for book club, and because I just didn't get totally into it. There were definite parts where I was very involved and didn't want to put it down, but others where it wasn't holding my interest. One of the big positives of this book is the sense of humor shown in various characters, the wit, and the absurdity of it. Overall it was a good book, I wished it had kept me suc...more

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Dec 31, 2012 Jacob rated it 5 of 5 stars

Despite the fact that the characters take on some of the roles of characters in the other books, they still have a lot of individuality in their being. Narasan had to lose his nephew, one of the few people he really loved, and there is no relation to that loss in any of the other books. The tension between the Trogites and the Maags and the natives of Dhrall is hilarious, even though it is somewhat expressed in other books. The Elder Gods puts a new spin on what David/David & Leigh eddings h...more

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Nov 07, 2012 Corinne rated it 3 of 5 stars

I am about half way through this book. I have read several series by David Eddings and always enjoyed the characters and the magic and the fantasy. I am having trouble with this one as to identifying with any of the characters and having that connection either like or dislike. The only character that has some of that feeling to it is the character of Longbow. I will plug along as I am enjoying the story and it does not require any real depth on my part. Sometimes it is enjoyable to just read som...more

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Sep 02, 2011 Gabriel rated it 1 of 5 stars

After being so impressed by "The Belgariad" I could hardly believe it when I realized that I couldn't care less about what the second book had in store. This book just simply fails to interest anyone. I'm not saying that this book should have been more like Eragon (I.e. A large amount of entertainment value with very little intellectual meat), however Eddings could have probably focused more on certain immersive qualities of the plot. It would definitely have made this less of a snooze if I had...more

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Jul 30, 2011 Asher Zeiger added it

I was nervous about this book since all of the reviews that I had read (here on FaceBook) had totally trashed it. To a point, I can understand why - it is nowhere near as good as the Belgariad/Mallorean series or even the Eleni/Tamuli series, so people who are expecting that level of book are naturally disappointed. That being said - I still had fun reading it - it's a good escape with some interesting ideas (even if the writing does tend to be repetitive and too many of the characters do seem t...more

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Mar 01, 2013 Andrew rated it 1 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Shelves: own

This review is for whole "The Dreamers" series
In sort: all four books are terrible. The characters are plain and easily forgotten (one which I can remember is a guy who was good at shooting a bow, his name was Longbow or probably something along the lines), there is cheating around every corner (Eddings was cheating a little bit more and more with every book, but in this one it's just too much), the writing style is terrible and feels like listening to two idiots talking between themselves. The...more

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Jul 08, 2012 Maeve ~Bad Wolf~ rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: oh-so-pathetic

Okay, I'm disappointed. The belgariad and the mallorean were just so brilliant! But this is... pitiful. The author reuses the names, the personalities, the appearances of the characters in his last series! Don't believe me? Enalla. Holds dominion over the East. She also happens to be married to one of iron-grip's heirs. Hmm... Also, the annoying overuse of the phrase "fun, though" okay! We get it! You think you're a humorous witty author! Now shut up and get on with the damn story! All his charr...more

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Jun 03, 2012 Marcelo rated it 4 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Any person alive.

Want a fantasy epic without dwarfs, elves and orcs? A threat that doesn't involve dragons or dark lords? Want also a witty writing style that'll glue you to the pages? That's the Eddings. That's The Dreamers series!

For a long time I looked for fantasy stories that weren't Lord of the Rings clones. The alternatives were authors clearly influenced by Tolkien who desperately tried not to imitate LotR. Than I found David Eddings and was saved.

This is a story about four gods who are reaching the poin...more

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Sep 07, 2008 Sara rated it 1 of 5 stars

I hate myself for saying this, but here goes. Boo! Boo, boo, boo.

I am one of many, many long-time Eddings fans and maybe that's the problem. I was thrilled to pick up a minty fresh Eddings saga, but by halfway through this first book I felt like I could recite it before I'd even read it. Far past just being stylistically recognizable, it's nearly an exact replica of every other Eddings series without any of their creative surprise goodness.

The plot is beyond familiar: good gods with basically g...more

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