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Them or Us (Hater #3)

3.82  ·  Rating Details ·  1,690 Ratings  ·  170 Reviews
The pulse-pounding conclusion to the HATER trilogy!

The war that has torn the human race apart is finally nearing its end. With most towns and cities now uninhabitable, and with the country in the grip of a savage nuclear winter, both Hater and Unchanged alike struggle to survive.

Hundreds of Hater fighters have settled on the East Coast in the abandoned remains of a re

Hardcover, 354 pages
Published November 8th 2011 by Thomas Dunne Books (first published January 1st 2011)
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Feb 28, 2012 Shea rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Anthony Fitzgerald
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Disappointing. Its just dragged along with little of the suspense seen in the previous books.
Ryan Daley
Nov 07, 2011 Ryan Daley rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The final novel in the Hater series finds Danny McCoyne locked in a passive-aggressive rivalry with Hinchcliffe, the sadistic leader of a sizeable community of Haters. Strong, angry dialogue drives the plot forward, and some thoughtful, yet sparse, social subtext from Moody transforms Them or Us into more than just a basic holocaust survival novel. A contemplative, highly satisfying conclusion to his apocalyptic trilogy.
Alexis Winning
Jul 06, 2012 Alexis Winning rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I actually finished this one about a week ago, and I've been trying to absorb my thoughts since then.

The Hater series is freaking terrifying. When you sit down and really think about the content, it is both honest to human nature and absolutely scary. At least with zombies you know where the boundaries are. You can tell if someone is undead, but you can't necessarily tell who the Haters are. That gray area is what makes the series great.

For me, the Hater series reflects the essence of human na
Craig DiLouie
In THEM OR US by David Moody, the final book in the HATER trilogy, the war between the Haters and the Unchanged is almost over. As the Unchanged near extinction after a nuclear exchange, the Haters begin to turn on each other. This review includes some reflections on the complete trilogy, already a classic in the genre, and may include spoilers or hints of spoilers, so read at your risk.

HATER tells the story of an office worker crushed by a mind-numbing civil service job, nagging wife and childr
Apr 15, 2012 Gatorman rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Fantastic finish to the Hater trilogy. The terrific writing continues as the story of Danny McCoyne and his struggles to come to grips with a changing and dying world of Haters and Unchanged builds to a gripping and ultimately satisfying conclusion. Violent and unflinching, the story makes you care about what happens to those that are left to find some place in the world, even the bad guys. If you haven't started this series, do so now. Well worth the effort.
Scott Lyall
Dec 03, 2011 Scott Lyall rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Dec 05, 2011 Josephine rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
You know, David Moody’s “Them or Us” is sort of how I see the world eventually going to Hell — like, maybe we won’t succumb to some weird glitch in our DNA that suddenly makes us turn on each other, but whether it’s a virus or a war or something else that decimates most of the population, I just get the sense that we’ll be woefully unprepared for it and that we won’t have the foresight to set our priorities straight to survive in the long term.

“Them or Us” is the final installment to Moody’s “Ha
Mar 01, 2015 Erik rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is the third installment of David Moody's Hater series, when I got the first book "Hater" I bought it believing it was another post apocalyptic zombie thriller. It is apocalyptic but no zombies. What sets Moody's novel apart is the fact that what brings about the end of the world is not a virus that changes it's victims into undead hordes searching for the flesh of the living. The change divides the world into two factions, the Haters and the Unchanged. The Unchanged remain just that unchan ...more
Jan 02, 2012 Chris rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
The premier splatterpunk series ends not with a growl, but a whimper. Picking up a short time after the brilliantly bloody second book in the series, Dog Blood, it follows the shattered shell that of the main character. The war is coming to a close, the devastation is paramount, and the remain few survivors cling on to the scraps of the former world. The savage intent still remains embedded in the characters, it's just the overtly detailed action from the first two books are almost completely mi ...more
Henrik Rostoft
Feb 01, 2012 Henrik Rostoft rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
This was a serious letdown after the first two.
Feb 13, 2012 Jenn rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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Mar 30, 2012 Bandit rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is exactly what good postapocalyptic fiction should be like. Actually, this is what a book should be like in general. It should make you think, feel and not be able to put it down. In this powerhouse of a conclusion to Hater trilogy, Moody shows us a horrifying new world and the staggering ramifications of hate. What makes these books unique is the combination of great storytelling, incredible action, phenomenal pacing and at the same time very interesting, almost philosophical, observation ...more
May 04, 2012 Jason rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: e-books, read-2012
4.5 Stars
The final book in the Hater trilogy by David Moody did not disappoint. The series which started out with a large scope devolves down to Danny as the only real point of view. By this point of the series, those whom have read these books know what the shape of the world is for Danny. This post-apocalyptic thriller does not let down it its morose and bleak take on humanity.

I am a huge Moody fan and love his writing style, his raw take on the fall of our world, and his ability to make us f
Jo Anne B
May 06, 2012 Jo Anne B rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This was a fabulous conclusion to the Hater series. It was as depressing as they come, but it was true to how it things would be which is classic Moody style. You really felt for Danny in this one. Wow, was he put through enough or what? I was annoyed with him in the second book because all he wanted to do was find his daughter Ellis, even though he never really cared for his kids to begin with. But in this one, you felt so sorry for how much he was suffering and how everybody used him for their ...more
Holden Attradies
May 12, 2012 Holden Attradies rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction, horror
I'm assuming this is the end of the series. If so, it was an AMAZING end. Like the previous two books, the last third of the book was incredibly hard to "put down" (stop listening in my case, audio book). I was on the edge of my seat till the very last line of the book, and it was an AMAZING and chilling last line.

Danny McCoin was so different from who he started out as in the first volume, yet in many ways still the same person. In the beginning of book one the only thing that stands out about
Jun 14, 2012 Clait rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Kind of awful. This third volume of the Hater trilogy is so miserable, so hopeless, and so thoroughly depressing that it seems like it just must be leading up to some kind of profound ending. Nothing could be further from the truth. Danny is back in full whining and worrying mode making this novel an exercise in frustration. Even when he finally makes a good decision, it takes him so long to get there, agonizing and whining endlessly, that you just don't care any more. I kept wanting Danny to be ...more
...or no-one at all.

It was always going to be hard to live up to the fantastically taut and frightening opener to this series, as demonstrated by the middle entry, Dog Blood and this finale, but nonetheless this was a fitting end to the trilogy - it's hard to see where else this could have gone.

The nuclear blasts that decimated the centres of population have left the country either dead or dying, with those not killed outright now suffering from the radiation. What was left of the Unchanged popu

hmm, so as far as the "look at me, i am taking the 'zombie' novel to new and interesting places" angle goes, i think this book delivers. but it is definitely a more subdued and reflective novel than the two that came before it. and that's fine, but it is not helping out my "spooky spook month" very much.

because, hey, i am all about the maturation of the zombie novel: Zone One, Raising Stony Mayhall, and The Reapers Are the Angels are all fine examples of novels that are and are not books about
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For me, ‘Them or Us’, the third and final instalment in the ‘Hater’ series was the best book by far in the trilogy.

For those of you that have not read the previous two books, the premise is simple. In ‘Haters’, the world has suddenly split into two groups of people. The ‘Unchanged’ are the majority of the population who have, unsurprisingly, not experienced any changes. Then there are the ‘Haters’. There is no way of working out who may turn into a ‘Hater’. Jus
Mar 21, 2013 Mike rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
The final book in the Hater trilogy picks up a little while after the events at the end of the second book. It sees Danny McCoyne falling in with another group of Haters who have set up a barely-functioning settlement. It covers his attempts to come to grips with the world that he has been left in the wake of the virtual extinction of the Unchanged.

This book is particularly well-written, though not as quick of a read as the other two as a result. Moody does a much better job of creating an envir
Cecilia Solis-sublette
The third in the trilogy, this novel ended the way any such trilogy could end. So, reflecting on the series, this series is - like all good literature - the story of a man on a quest. He's searching for humanity, for life. What is it that makes life worth living? He knew at one point but, then, forgot. And that is the real tragedy of Danny McCoyne. And who is Danny but a stand in for all of us as we continue to seek out happiness in different forms and standards? So, yes, in the end this is a ph ...more
Feb 08, 2015 Jami rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: dystopia
This was an interesting conclusion to the trilogy. At first, I wasn't sure there was any plot, but as it got going, I found that I became engrossed in the author's depiction of how the society developed when it was torn down and had to rebuild. The emergence of various classes and the overthrow of those in powerful was well portrayed. I also liked the development of Danny McCoyne. I became a fan of the trilogy based on the first book, where you didn't know who was a Hater and who was an Unchange ...more
Sep 28, 2014 Juliet rated it it was amazing
I feel like I had to wait literally forever for this book to come out. Like, I was basically halfway through college before this book was in my hands thanks to Amazon. I was a little disappointed in the US cover design, but that doesn’t fault what’s inside the book.

We return to the world of the Haters and the Unchanged. Our main character, Danny, is still struggling with his Hate. But this world is darker. They’re living in a post-nuclear explosion wasteland. Danny still wants to find his daugh
Their lives were empty, but for the hunt and the kill. It was an inescapable paradox: by destroying their enemy they were also removing their own reason to live.

The Beginning: At the height of the last English summer, the skies turned black as coal and never cleared.

I was a bit disappointed by this one, the third and final instalment of the Hater-series. I loved the first novel so much. It was unlike anything I’d read before and it got a well-deserved spot on my top 5 reads of 2013. The second
Jan 30, 2015 Erin rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
I picked up this book not realizing it was the final in a trilogy. Perhaps if I had read the previous two books, I would have enjoyed "Them of Us" more. The story is interesting and I love a good post-apocalyptic read, but I just couldn't get into the characters or the style of dialogue.
Si Barron
There’s a problem with credibility in this book. You may think this a peculiar comment in light of the fact that it is about zombies. But there is something called ‘internal logic’’ and this book fails in it.

First of all there is a problem with Hinchcliffe, the big bad. He just doesn’t cut it as a baddie. He seems mainly to be play acting; I was never convinced despite all the protestations of fear and loathing from our protagonist. Hinchcliffe never scared me; none of them did unfortunately.

May 03, 2016 Alina rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Felt longer, slower and more boring than the other two in the series, pretty predictable, making me wonder numerous times if there's any solid plot, with an indecisive and whining and obnoxious main character.
Also, the causes of the transformation are never expalined..
Aug 01, 2016 Badseedgirl rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Dark, dark ending, but with just the faintest gleam of hope.
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David Moody was born in 1970 and grew up in Birmingham on a diet of trashy horror and pulp science fiction books and movies. He worked as a bank manager and as operations manager for a number of financial institutions before giving up the day job to write about the end of the world for a living. He has written a number of horror novels, including AUTUMN, which has been downloaded more than half a ...more
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