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Saints Astray (Santa Olivia #2)
by
Jacqueline Carey (Goodreads Author)
Fellow orphans, amateur vigilantes, and members of the Santitos, Loup Garron-the fugitive daughter of a genetically engineered "wolf man"-and Pilar Ecchevarria grew up in the military zone of Outpost 12, formerly known as Santa Olivia. But now they're free, and they want to help the rest of the Santitos escape. During a series of escapades, they discover that Miguel, Loup'...more
Paperback, 368 pages
Published
November 22nd 2011
by Grand Central Publishing
(first published November 1st 2011)
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Nov 30, 2011
Mariel
rated it
1 of 5 stars
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Voldemort
My life may end up being long, long and still not long enough or too short the way that I can waste hours playing Angry Birds and still feel it wasn't enough time to try to beat level 3.15. If I persist in reading Saints Astray it will be too long no matter the outcome. I lose no matter what. Sooooo boring. My senses are too dull to come up with more descriptions of how boring. I have butter knives sharper than this! Okay, I lied but see (butter melts in my mouth!)? What I came up with wasn't go...more
"Astray" is the operative word here. Loup Garron is back, but for most of this book she lacks any direction. There's lots going on here, but it's not going anywhere. Having escaped from Gitmo, I mean Outpost, Loup and Pilar have some fun on the beach in Mexico, get recruited for bodyguard training and pack off to Scotland. Then do security for a fashion designer, for a mafia family in Sicily, for the bratty daughter of a Swiss banker in Geneva, and for a Pop band in Australia and Japan.
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I took a long time with this one, because honestly, I was a little bit bored with it. I really enjoyed Santa Olivia, but with this one, there hardly seemed to be any conflict at all. Pilar and Loup got along wonderfully, absolutely, completely over the conflict they had in the previous book, completely madly in love. I couldn't have been more bored with the romance in this one, and Jacqueline Carey usually tells a fantastic love story. I think back to Phedre and Joscelin, Imriel and Sidonie, Moi...more
I don't know what happened with me and this book. It's been a while since I read the first one, but I remember enjoying it quite a bit and wanted to know how the story continued. However, this sequel didn't resonate with me at all. Perhaps it would have been best if Santa Olivia was allowed to be a stand-alone novel.
My biggest peeve with the book wasn't the writing, the writing wasn't bad (although the story could have been better). No, it was the characters. I don't remember them being quite so...more
My biggest peeve with the book wasn't the writing, the writing wasn't bad (although the story could have been better). No, it was the characters. I don't remember them being quite so...more
This is a nice novel that takes a nice high-concept feature and keeps it relatively down to earth. If you were a genetically enhanced teenager (stronger and faster than unenhanced humans), what would you do with your life after you make it on your own? Apparently it's be a fisherman, construction worker, or get into the bodyguarding business. Which actually makes a lot of sense -- this novel is mostly about keeping the leads' heads on their shoulders.
There's still a lot of wish fulfillment, as t...more
There's still a lot of wish fulfillment, as t...more
I didn’t love this as much as I loved Santa Olivia, the first of the so far two books in this series. Nor did I love it as much as the last book I read, Among Others. Which it isn't at all similar to excpet in proximity. So I’m damning it, a very little bit, by comparison.
One of the things I liked best about Santa Olivia is the dystopian world. In this book, at the beginning they leave that village and we find the rest of the world is doing okay. It’s unusual to have a happily ever after ending...more
One of the things I liked best about Santa Olivia is the dystopian world. In this book, at the beginning they leave that village and we find the rest of the world is doing okay. It’s unusual to have a happily ever after ending...more
The further I got into this the less I liked it. Volume 1 had some interesting concepts and characters and conflicts. This one makes Danielle Steel seem like Jorge Luis Borges. Perhaps someone who reads Harlequins can tell us how close this is to one of theirs.
I suppose I should reflect the book by having 20% of this review be "ooh baby I can't wait to ..ahh!" I have problem with having such scenes in the book, but there are way too many, and they're sickly sweet.
Loup shows flickers of being i...more
I suppose I should reflect the book by having 20% of this review be "ooh baby I can't wait to ..ahh!" I have problem with having such scenes in the book, but there are way too many, and they're sickly sweet.
Loup shows flickers of being i...more
I'm glad Carey came out with this sequel to Santa Olivia. These books are a departure from her Kushiel series, both in tone and in content. They do however share the theme of alternate timelines -- something I'm seeing more and more of in contemporary fiction. Loup Garron, child of a genetically created super-soldier, has escaped the Gaza-strip-like Outpost 12 established by the U.S. government along the border with Mexico in the wake of a global pandemic. She and her girlfriend Pilar find refug...more
In “Saints Astray,” Jacqueline Carey returns to the near future world she created in her previous book, “Santa Olivia,” and to its fascinating heroine, Loup Garron.
Loup’s mother was a resident of Outpost 12—once called Santa Olivia—that was created during a pandemic when the military set up a fifty-mile wide cordon between the U.S. and Mexico. Her father was born from a top-secret super soldier program as a genetically engineered organism (Geemo for short). Loup looks like a normal eighteen-yea...more
Loup’s mother was a resident of Outpost 12—once called Santa Olivia—that was created during a pandemic when the military set up a fifty-mile wide cordon between the U.S. and Mexico. Her father was born from a top-secret super soldier program as a genetically engineered organism (Geemo for short). Loup looks like a normal eighteen-yea...more
Sweet, fun, action-y teenage wish-fulfillment fantasy with a social justice edge. Slow build, fun payoff, would be great beach reading.
This would be great young adult fiction, but for all the swearing and sex. Which is to say it is great young adult fiction, but I don't know that teachers and librarians should go about handing it out that way. I'd recommend it for both boys and girls old enough to appreciate a sensual love story and a principled struggle.
Carey enjoys spoiling the characters sh...more
This would be great young adult fiction, but for all the swearing and sex. Which is to say it is great young adult fiction, but I don't know that teachers and librarians should go about handing it out that way. I'd recommend it for both boys and girls old enough to appreciate a sensual love story and a principled struggle.
Carey enjoys spoiling the characters sh...more
This book was amazing!! I loved every minute of reading it. I stayed up till like 5am before I fell asleep and finished it the following morning! The relationship between Loup and Pilar was beautiful and I felt for them every step of the way. When I think about how much was accomplished in this book I wonder how Carey was able to fit it all in. However, she did it superbly well and it did not feel rushed at all. The ending was closed well without a cliff hanger but open enough to continue with t...more
I enjoyed this second volume of the Santa Olivia series more than I did the first, but I still consider this series the least of Carey's works, after the Banewreaker duology and her Kushiel books.
Part of this may be that I think the Santa Olivia books are actually Young Adult novels. Even though some of the situations -- especially in the first book -- are rather grown up, the stories themselves are actually simple and straight forward, without the lushness that characterizes Carey's other seri...more
Part of this may be that I think the Santa Olivia books are actually Young Adult novels. Even though some of the situations -- especially in the first book -- are rather grown up, the stories themselves are actually simple and straight forward, without the lushness that characterizes Carey's other seri...more
Dec 03, 2011
Darlene
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Yvensong, Cheryl in CC NV, S. Michele, EVERYONE
Recommended to Darlene by:
Jacqueline Carey
Can I give this book ten stars? Is it possible to love a second book in a series more than the first? I wish I could, and I do.
The depth of character, plot and world building is absolutely amazing! Jacqueline Carey writes in poetry it seems. Not in a dull, you have to figure it out as you go into tangled webs-way, but flowing and vivid. It is like you have put on Carey glasses and see a world you might not have seen before.
I didn't cry at the end of this book. But I am sad. I cannot see how ther...more
The depth of character, plot and world building is absolutely amazing! Jacqueline Carey writes in poetry it seems. Not in a dull, you have to figure it out as you go into tangled webs-way, but flowing and vivid. It is like you have put on Carey glasses and see a world you might not have seen before.
I didn't cry at the end of this book. But I am sad. I cannot see how ther...more
Feb 04, 2013
Kat Hagedorn
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1 of 5 stars
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Bloody hell. I really only got how awful this was until halfway through, by which point I figured I might as well take it to its end. If only because it's super quick read and to see the characters go back to Outpost again. Yea, sorry if I ruined that for you, but... nah. I'm not. Don't pick this up.
The first book is really pretty good- it has such an interesting premise and Carey takes it in weird directions. This follow-up is the result of Carey's agent saying "all th...more
Bloody hell. I really only got how awful this was until halfway through, by which point I figured I might as well take it to its end. If only because it's super quick read and to see the characters go back to Outpost again. Yea, sorry if I ruined that for you, but... nah. I'm not. Don't pick this up.
The first book is really pretty good- it has such an interesting premise and Carey takes it in weird directions. This follow-up is the result of Carey's agent saying "all th...more
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Dec 05, 2011
Darlene
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Yvensong, Cheryl in CC NV, S. Michele Everyone
Recommended to Darlene by:
Jacqueline Carey
Can I give this book ten stars? Is it possible to love a second book in a series more than the first? I wish I could, and I do.
The depth of character, plot and world building is absolutely amazing! Jacqueline Carey writes in poetry it seems. Not in a dull, you have to figure it out as you go into tangled webs-way, but flowing and vivid. It is like you have put on Carey glasses and see a world you might not have seen before.
I didn't cry at the end of this book. But I am sad. I cannot see how ther...more
The depth of character, plot and world building is absolutely amazing! Jacqueline Carey writes in poetry it seems. Not in a dull, you have to figure it out as you go into tangled webs-way, but flowing and vivid. It is like you have put on Carey glasses and see a world you might not have seen before.
I didn't cry at the end of this book. But I am sad. I cannot see how ther...more
I was really looking forward to this book. I loved Santa Olivia; it was so much fun seeing Carey let loose into a modern world, the characters were entertaining and lovable, the tiny, locked-in community of Outpost was interesting and beautifully drawn. So where the hell did this one go wrong?
This sequel is so bad, I almost did myself an ocular mischief thanks to the amount of eye rolling that occurred as I was reading it. Lou and Pilar skip through a series of wish-fulfilling events where they...more
This sequel is so bad, I almost did myself an ocular mischief thanks to the amount of eye rolling that occurred as I was reading it. Lou and Pilar skip through a series of wish-fulfilling events where they...more
some of this book reminds me of other books where a girl comes into a lot of money -- by way of being an heiress or whatever -- and then it spends way too much time focusing on what exactly she buys, long descriptions of her outfits, oh I get to go to all these fancy places, oh I'm BFFs with this band now! that's not the bulk of this book, but parts of it definitely read like that. it's not bad, but I think it takes away from the quality. additionally, there's a lot going on but it doesn't feel...more
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Warning: Saints Astray is the sequel to Santa Olivia. There’s no way to review it without some spoilers from the first book, so please don’t read this if you haven’t read Book One!
I loved Santa Olivia. It’s completely different than the Kushiel series, more sci-fi/dystopian fiction and less fantasy. It’s also written in harsher, more “normal” language, much less flowery than her other works. Oh, and it’s shorter.
The basic story is that Loup Garron is the child of a human mother and a genetically...more
I loved Santa Olivia. It’s completely different than the Kushiel series, more sci-fi/dystopian fiction and less fantasy. It’s also written in harsher, more “normal” language, much less flowery than her other works. Oh, and it’s shorter.
The basic story is that Loup Garron is the child of a human mother and a genetically...more
Santa Olivia is the only book by Jacqueline Carey that I recommended to my husband and son because while it's got the kind of wonderful romance she's known for, it's also the sort of action driven sci-fi with great characters they both appreciate.
This will be the second book I recommend to them by her.
It's lighter than the first book, without the tragedy and heartache. It's still full of action, and in this one, the love story between Pilar and Loup is the main theme. It's wonderful watching Pil...more
This will be the second book I recommend to them by her.
It's lighter than the first book, without the tragedy and heartache. It's still full of action, and in this one, the love story between Pilar and Loup is the main theme. It's wonderful watching Pil...more
I loved the first book and that's why I wanted to read this book. I am SO disappointed in this book, though!
There are a lot of dialogues in the book and they all feel either forced or macho like. The plot isn't that eventful and I never had this "oh-I-want-to-get-back-to-my-book" feeling.
Read the first book (Santa Olivia), but stay away from this one!
There are a lot of dialogues in the book and they all feel either forced or macho like. The plot isn't that eventful and I never had this "oh-I-want-to-get-back-to-my-book" feeling.
Read the first book (Santa Olivia), but stay away from this one!
Okay, when I read reviews about this book, I was sort of prepared to not like it very much? It sounded slmost trivial to the brilliance that was the first book and I almost wondered what Jacqueline Carey was thinking, writing in a British pop band (of all things!) into the whole werewolf vigilante lesbian scene, but it actually works.
It more than works, I honestly think this book is better than the first in terms of development if the other characters. Pilar, especially. In Santa Olivia we see L...more
It more than works, I honestly think this book is better than the first in terms of development if the other characters. Pilar, especially. In Santa Olivia we see L...more
As indicated by my three stars the book was fine, neither spectacular nor boring. If I had read this book without having read Santa Olivia I would have had no connection with, nor commitment to the characters in the story.
On its own this book is a nice light read with a bit of action, a bit of romance, and a bit of state of the world commentary. All these things make the book an enjoyable light read.
Having read Santa Olivia and become so intimately connected to Loup Garron and the intense depth...more
On its own this book is a nice light read with a bit of action, a bit of romance, and a bit of state of the world commentary. All these things make the book an enjoyable light read.
Having read Santa Olivia and become so intimately connected to Loup Garron and the intense depth...more
Interesting premise, and I gather that the prequel to this book was decent.
This one read like bad fanfic. The storyline centred around activities that would appeal to teenagers (shopping, celebrities), and many times I felt like an old perve reading about these girls wrecking every bed they get near.
The constant 'baby' is grating, as is 'getting her smoulder on'. Lupe's 'shiny hero eyes' is also a bit :S, and ges old, fast.
Very predictable in parts - in fact, I'm only surprised that Magnus' ass...more
This one read like bad fanfic. The storyline centred around activities that would appeal to teenagers (shopping, celebrities), and many times I felt like an old perve reading about these girls wrecking every bed they get near.
The constant 'baby' is grating, as is 'getting her smoulder on'. Lupe's 'shiny hero eyes' is also a bit :S, and ges old, fast.
Very predictable in parts - in fact, I'm only surprised that Magnus' ass...more
Sequel to Santa Olivia (first book which I did enjoy). Saints Astray continues the story of the genetically modified heroine, Loup and her girlfriend, Pilar. As many sequels go, this story didn't have the grit or the focus of the first one. The author basically spins a lovely, if not entirely believable tale that wraps up the story from the first novel. Very light reading, let me put it that way. Plus, the sex scenes were so generic that I had a hard time remembering both characters were female....more
Huh. That was...really kinda goofy. The big "obstacles" were too easily overcome, I think - there's no real sense of menace (or, oddly for how often they talk about/physically demonstrate it, a sense of love between Pilar and Loup). The emotions in the book came off kind of forced and cutesy.
It reads, as a few of the other reviewers have said, much like stilted YA (with much cussing and sex) or like fanfic, complete with descriptions of shopping trips and clothes (Have you ever noticed how often...more
It reads, as a few of the other reviewers have said, much like stilted YA (with much cussing and sex) or like fanfic, complete with descriptions of shopping trips and clothes (Have you ever noticed how often...more
This was such a disappointment. The original, Santa Olivia, is by far my favorite book from this author. Unfortunately that meant I had extremely high hopes and lots of excitement for the sequel Saints Astray, and those hopes came crashing to the ground early on.
Where to begin. Well, this book reads more like a 15 year old's attempt at a badass female action book who knows nothing about lesbian relationships. everything about this book, all the events and all the characters are completely unbeli...more
Where to begin. Well, this book reads more like a 15 year old's attempt at a badass female action book who knows nothing about lesbian relationships. everything about this book, all the events and all the characters are completely unbeli...more
So nothing really happens in this book. I love love Kushiel but this two book series is like it's written by a different author. The characters really got on my nerves especially Pilar with her "hey baby" ugh. And they went at it like rabbits I don't think there was a chapter that didn't go by that Loup and Pilar were either looking at each other lovey dovey, thinking about each other lovey dovey or doing it. I don't have anything against lesbians but enough is enough. And the swearing was annoy...more
It's my first book by this author and its an interesting Sopranos/Charlie's Angels/X-women lesbian couple. But what the heck is with the 'baby' 'baby' every time Pilar speaks to Loup? Major puke! And the 'They ordered dinner and then they f----ed'. End of chapter. Oh these shoes look so good on you, ok let's f----. End of chapter. My god, get over it and out of the book woman! The book gets a bit normal in the later chapters and there's a happily ever after, which is why I give it a three star....more
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.
She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo...more
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.
She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo...more
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