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Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew
The early Christian Church was a chaos of contending beliefs. Some groups of Christians claimed that there was not one God but two or twelve or thirty. Some believed that the world had not been created by God but by a lesser, ignorant deity. Certain sects maintained that Jesus was human but not divine, while others said he was divine but not human.
In Lost Christianities, B...more
In Lost Christianities, B...more
Paperback, 320 pages
Published
September 15th 2005
by Oxford University Press
(first published January 28th 2002)
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Feb 10, 2008
Skylar Burris
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2 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
conspiracy theorists
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Here is a sentence from "Lost Christianities" that provides a clue to why the book is not really very sensational, as well as a clue to Ehrman's perspective: "It comes as a bit of a shock to most people to realize that the Church has not always had the New Testament." Perhaps it once came as a shock to Ehrman, but it does not come as a shock to any Christian with an inkling of Christian history. I am reminded of Alexander Pope's phrase, "A little learning is a dangerous thing." Ehrman seems to h...more
What I liked most about this series of lectures was the substantial context it provided about the ancient writings that were included or rejected from the canon we now know as the Bible. Ehrman maintains an objective tone, though you can tell he doesn't support some of the interpretations that are common today. I found his approach to be thoughtful and enlightening. A few most notable insights for me included that the 27 books we know as today's New Testament were originally selected by one man...more
Mar 12, 2009
Tyler
rated it
3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
All; History and Religious Studies Fans
Shelves:
non-fiction
Of the four main strands of Christianity prevalent before the fourth century, only one had what it took to emerge as the religion we know today. Theology students are no doubt familiar with this history, but seldom does it make its way past the pulpit. So as a general reader, I found this survey of the earliest years of Christianity informative.
The book, for example, takes up the subject of gnosticism, an early Christian theology that considered matter itself to be evil. Lost Christianities dis...more
The book, for example, takes up the subject of gnosticism, an early Christian theology that considered matter itself to be evil. Lost Christianities dis...more
If you are interested in early church history, then this a book for you. The followers of Christ were more diverse over the first few centuries of the Christian religion than they are even now. From the Ebionites, who followed the laws of Judaism and used only a version of Matthew as their gospel, to the Marcionites, who only used the letters of Paul and Luke and NO old testament, there were many different interpretations of the religion. This book explores these two groups plus the Gnostics and...more
I can't recommend this to anyone lacking a thorough familiarity with the pitfalls in higher criticism, which can ultimately lead one to question everything and believe very little. (I've often said I would heartily shake hands with anyone who'd read J. Reuben Clark's Why the King James Version, of their own accord.) For one, even where there's an ambiguity over the authorship of Hebrews within the LDS faith (see Szink, in How The New Testament Came to Be), the inspiration thereof was never a mat...more
I admit I am an admirer to Bart D. Ehrman and read a lot his books. There are other sources that reveal the hidden books that were among the Christian and their writings that in my opinion most of what is written by Christians to some degree are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Most believers will confess they walk a better life when looking to what the leading of the Holy Spirit will teach.
In his book he shows that different religions since the time of Christianity, but what is missing is fundament...more
In his book he shows that different religions since the time of Christianity, but what is missing is fundament...more
Another excellent book by Bart Erhman. Not only are the historical facts that he presents fascinating--and challenging to many diehard Christians-- but they're "crucial" for ALL to read and understand.
Religion is a very tough and sensitive topic. I know from my own book, which dedicates several chapters to religious beliefs and how these deep ideologies shaped the minds and actions of many great- and also evil -leaders.
The broad array of Christian sects that immediately sprouted up after Jesus...more
Religion is a very tough and sensitive topic. I know from my own book, which dedicates several chapters to religious beliefs and how these deep ideologies shaped the minds and actions of many great- and also evil -leaders.
The broad array of Christian sects that immediately sprouted up after Jesus...more
Ebionites, Marcionites, and Gnostics. Oh my.
This is a great introduction to the history of the competing theologies and practices of early Christians as can best be determined from ancient texts that have been passed down and rediscovered.
The author Bart D. Ehrman, professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, argues and, in my opinion, demonstrates that early Christianity was anything but a monolithic religion and that the beliefs that eventually came to be called orthodox...more
This is a great introduction to the history of the competing theologies and practices of early Christians as can best be determined from ancient texts that have been passed down and rediscovered.
The author Bart D. Ehrman, professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, argues and, in my opinion, demonstrates that early Christianity was anything but a monolithic religion and that the beliefs that eventually came to be called orthodox...more
Most people who self-identify as “bible believing Christians” operate under a certain understanding of the history of Christianity. Whether their view of this history is learned or assumed, it usually goes something like this in a nutshell: "The canonized scripture is the inerrant word of God. The New Testament was formed sometime shortly after Jesus Christ’s resurrection and ascension—most of it from first-hand witnesses to Jesus’s ministry. Because Jesus’s teachings were so clear, and his grea...more
Growing up in a Christian family, the Bible just was. It existed, it was the word of God. But how did that come to be? The first time I learned about the authorship of the Bible was interestingly enough, in my Catholic High School's Freshman Religious Studies class. I learned about the source material for the Gospels (Q) and other interesting tidbits. Still, it wasn't discussed much, or in great detail.
As it turns out, there were many forms of early Christianity. Their teachings varied widely fr...more
As it turns out, there were many forms of early Christianity. Their teachings varied widely fr...more
Written for the layman, Ehrman presents an interesting discussion of the contending factions vying for power and influence during the early, formative years of Christianity. He does this primarily through a synthesis of modern scholarship's analysis of early Christian texts that have been discovered recently or survived through the years. The conclusion he presents - which reflects the broader discipline he is part of - is that the "New Testament" presented as canon today is in fact an amalgamat...more
Really really good book. It has finally given me the motivation to start reading The Bible and gave a really interesting history of early Christianity. I think the author did a great job of keeping the book very academic and factual, especially with such a sensitive topic as religion. It did this without ridiculing the religion so it was overall a very enjoyable read.
I think the author did a good job of making this accessible to the lay person. Most obscure academic terms are spelled out and I n...more
I think the author did a good job of making this accessible to the lay person. Most obscure academic terms are spelled out and I n...more
This is a book that reveals some of the "sausage-making" of religion. To the nonbeliever, it's an amazing history lesson, but I'd imagine to the believer, it is a challenge to faith-- not so much to faith in God but certainly to faith in the institutions that claim to speak for Him.
That said, the book makes it clear why the Pauline model succeeded and the others failed (the book goes perfectly with Rodney Stark's classic "How New Religions Succeed") and gives an eye-opening glimpse into how not...more
That said, the book makes it clear why the Pauline model succeeded and the others failed (the book goes perfectly with Rodney Stark's classic "How New Religions Succeed") and gives an eye-opening glimpse into how not...more
Informative look at early xtian texts that ended up excluded from the canon incidentaly looking at some of the canon itself.
Discusses the idea of authenticity and forgery as well as the early xtian groups that may have used them and their reasons for doing so.
Also looks at the reasons why the version of xtianity that ended up dominating did so to the cost of the other flavours.
The main things I took away from this:
1) pretty much every variety of xtain though they were right and everyone else was...more
Discusses the idea of authenticity and forgery as well as the early xtian groups that may have used them and their reasons for doing so.
Also looks at the reasons why the version of xtianity that ended up dominating did so to the cost of the other flavours.
The main things I took away from this:
1) pretty much every variety of xtain though they were right and everyone else was...more
Ehrman is very good at speaking in plain and understandable language about topics that folks often try and make complex and hard to understand. Folks who want no part of asking hard questions about the modern western orthodoxy will not this or others of his books. You can see this plainly in the reviews and comments folks leave regarding his books.
However, if you're someone who asks the hard questions and you're willing to evolve and grow your faith as you learn more, then you'll very likely enj...more
However, if you're someone who asks the hard questions and you're willing to evolve and grow your faith as you learn more, then you'll very likely enj...more
This is a fascinating book about the diverse early christian cults that existed in the decades immediately following the death of Jesus. Ehrman is a careful and insightful scholar who not only offers well thought our opinions on the subject, but also explains how the majority of scholars have reached such conclusions. My only hesitation in recommending this book is for those who have read some of Ehrman's other works. This is because some of the information contained here is repeated from earlie...more
As an introduction to the various forms of christianity, e.g. Gnosticism or Marcionism, that existed in the first few hundred years of this odd spin-off of Judaism. Ehrman, a recognized authority of early christianity also is a skilled writer, making this a fine introduction to the early chaos that in time coalesced into the christian orthodoxy. If happen to believe in churchy stuff, or just have an interest in the early history of the most influential religious movement in the history of especi...more
This is a compendium of the minor (and major) heresies of the early Christian era. They had to be dealt with at the 4th-century meeting in Nicea of priests at the behest of the emperor Constantine. As a result we now have the "official" holy book and a Creed that we have to swear to before every (Protestant and I guess Catholic) church service - at least as nearly as I recall, since I have not attended one since ~1962.
The world of true believers would be a lot different if some of the heretical...more
The world of true believers would be a lot different if some of the heretical...more
Ehrman's topic fascinates me but his writing to the nonacademic audience just doesn't persuade, at least not in this work. Very interesting analysis of the Marcionite and Ebionite sects of early Christianity that were ultimately suppressed or failed to succeed in the early centuries after Christ. I just wish Ehrman had taken a more rigorous approach even though he was writing to a lay audience. Anyone who read this type of work is not going to be put off by a more scholarly approach and his tone...more
Very interesting, but a little dry at times because of the amount of historical background and information Ehrman gives in order to better convey a more complete understanding of the specific topics he covers. This is a must read for the average Christian because most average Christians have absolutely no idea how their orthodox beliefs originated.
Ehrman explains in detail the struggle for dominance among religious groups in the first century for the title of "orthodox" Christianity. What most...more
Ehrman explains in detail the struggle for dominance among religious groups in the first century for the title of "orthodox" Christianity. What most...more
Bought this book with its companion volume, Lost Scriptures, and read it on a recent China trip. I enjoyed it; Ehrman's an entertaining and thought-provoking read. However, having listened to the Teaching Company lectures of same name and read much of his other material, I didn't get too much out of this one. I'm looking forward to digging into the second volume though.
I must say that this book was a great follow-up to " Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why" by Bart Ehrman. I would highly recommend this book for anyone interested in the origins and early evolution of the Christian religion.
Essentially, in the years that followed the life of Jesus Christ, a wide variety of beliefs went under the name "Christian," including many later denounced as heresy. This book opens the reader's mind to the possibility that the traditional "orth...more
Essentially, in the years that followed the life of Jesus Christ, a wide variety of beliefs went under the name "Christian," including many later denounced as heresy. This book opens the reader's mind to the possibility that the traditional "orth...more
Lost Christianities is an excellent introduction for the lay reader/non-specialist into the early and formative years of the faith we now know today as Christianity. Ehrman demonstrates that there were numerous versions of Christianity which preceded what we call today orthodoxy a la Roman Catholicism and mainstream Protestantism which assert the unity of Jesus' divine/human nature as well as other prevailing doctrines including the 27 book New Testament canon and the Trinity. While I thoroughly...more
Early Christianity is a fascinating, if poorly documented, area of study. This book focuses mainly on three branches of early Christianity: The Ebionites, Gnostics, and proto-Orthodox. The Ebionites believed that Jesus was human, born of a physical union between Mary and Joseph, and became the chosen of God when he was baptized. I am highly sympathetic to this view of Jesus. The Ebionites also followed Judaism more closely than any of the other groups. The Gnostics believed in a secret meaning o...more
Nov 10, 2008
Shippseattle
marked it as to-read
The early Christian Church was a chaos of contending beliefs. Some groups of Christians claimed that there was not one God but two or twelve or thirty...more [close] The early Christian Church was a chaos of contending beliefs. Some groups of Christians claimed that there was not one God but two or twelve or thirty. Some believed that the world had not been created by God but by a lesser, ignorant deity. Certain sects maintained that Jesus was human but not divine, while others said he was divin...more
This book provided quite an educational and eye-opening experience in learning of some historical aspects of the creation of the New Testament. The subtitle of the book appropriately describes "the Faiths that We Never Knew" and primarily focuses on their co-existence (and eventual congealment with the early proto-orthodox church). I was fascinated at the variation of beliefs, forgeries, disagreements and incredible amount of scholarly exploration.
I continuously wondered throughout the course of...more
I continuously wondered throughout the course of...more
This book is an account of the details of these Christian faiths that were ultimately suppressed, as well as an account of how these faiths became "heretical" while one of these sects of Christianity came to be considered orthodox and ultimately shape the beliefs of Christians down to our own day. I found this to be a fascinating trip through the ancient world. Believers should understand the roots of their religion and of the texts on which it is founded; likewise, non-believers will probably a...more
Ehrman is a happy discovery for me, and I’m adding him to my short list of favorites on history/interpretation of Christianity—along with Marcus Borg and John Shelby Spong. I’ve heard before many of the historical figures and manuscripts, but Ehrman makes it come alive for me…makes me want to want to read/study more. The book reads almost like a “who-done-it” in places. The promo quote that says it best for me is from Elaine Pagels: “Fascinating….Lively, enjoyable, and accessible.”
The early church had a variety of beliefs, based on the religions people converted from, the beliefs of the disciple doing the converting and/or peoples actual recollections of Jesus' life. There was no organization that listed the creed for early believers. Then people started writing down what they believed. Not all of the writings became part of the canonical books of the New Testament. Battles raged between the Gnostics as well as other groups also considered heretical and the Church.
Dec 05, 2009
Tony duncan
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Just a phenomenal book. Such a comprehensive and enlightening exploration of what we know about the development of Christian religious sects. Amazing that the "orthodox" sect was able to completely suppress every other strand, of which there were many.
While I loved "gnostic Gospels" there is so much more information in general here and it is presented in such an inclusive (as opposed to objective) manner.
Of course this is a very sensitive issue in the United States, especially, I imagine for fu...more
While I loved "gnostic Gospels" there is so much more information in general here and it is presented in such an inclusive (as opposed to objective) manner.
Of course this is a very sensitive issue in the United States, especially, I imagine for fu...more
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Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina (UNC) at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies.
A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Div...more
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