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Rama II (Rama #2)

3.64 of 5 stars 3.64  ·  rating details  ·  12,174 ratings  ·  294 reviews
"Cuando Rama, la misteriosa espacionave alienígena que apareciera en el año 2130, abandonó nuestro sistema solar en dirección a su próxima y desconocida escala, algunas de sus maravillas quedaron reveladas, pero poco de sus misterios fueron resueltos. Lo que sí quedó claro, sin embargo, fue una cosa: todo lo que contruían los enigmáticos constructores de Rama lo hacían por ...more
Mass Market Paperback, 496 pages
Published 1990 by Orbit (first published November 1st 1989)
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mark monday
Two men enter a curio shop and see a delightful object. "I made that!" exclaimed one man. "Now that I am long in years, perhaps I can improve upon it." Replied the second man, with some enthusiasm: "Indeed! I may be able to help with that project. I have certain new-fangled ideas that shall modernize your quaint antique!" Sadly, both men were quite mistaken.

why the urge to improve upon what was perfectly fine as is? this sequel adds absolutely nothing to the original - except a host of cheap soa
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Danielle
May 27, 2009 Danielle rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: people who hate science fiction and just want to read about characters
Shelves: gave-up, sci-fi
I'm about 1/5 in and this book SUCKS. Nothing has happened, the pacing is at an absolute crawl, and all I'm getting in the way of story is far too much backstory on all the characters.

Oh, and some of the writing is bad. "She looked up at the lights and Francesca. The gold sequins on the front of the Italian journalist's dress had grouped into a pattern, or so it seemed to Nicole. She saw a head in the sequins, the head of a large cat, its eyes gleaming and its mouth with sharp teeth just beginn
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Joe
Good: Anything not involving the characters. The history of the economic crisis, description of the saint.
Bad: Anything involving characters and character development. Minus the catholic guy who visits the pope and the saint's memorial.

I'm sorry, I just can't keep reading this. It's excruciating. I'm bailing at page 100. Parts of it are really good, like the 2 chapter history of the economic crisis. That was fun, detailed, well thought out.

But whenever this book interacts with a human being, I
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Ben
Though not in the same league as Rendezvous with Rama, this was quite enjoyable. I was surprised that Lee, a scientist with JPL, made this a much more character focused novel. He didn't do a bad job at it or anything but that probably wasn't what most people wanted out of a Rama sequel.
Doug Armstrong
Mar 05, 2013 Doug Armstrong rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Nobody.
Recommended to Doug by: Gentry Lee
I don't know if I can even be bothered to finish this one. Arthur C. Clarke was never very good at writing believable characters; his strengths were the amazingly inventive premises, attention to detail, and ability to make even the craziest technologies seem scientifically possible. So here we have a novel that Clarke apparently created the characters for (it shows) and outlined ideas, but is actually written by some other author. I absolutely loved the original book, Rendezvous with Rama, it w ...more
Adrian
I was surprised that this book turned out to be so disappointing. I almost gave up a few times but forced myself to finish, expecting it to get better. Now I feel abashed, as if I sent a nigerian prince $10,000.00 because I believed his email about his terrible, urgent need.

Rendezvous with Rama (The book proceeding Rama II in the series) was a wonderful book. It was a classic example of "hard" sci fi, Arhur C. Clarke at his best. It had fascinating science, great atmosphere and tension, and buil
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Steven
I honestly couldn't get very far into this book. I really enjoyed Rendezvous with Rama, but this novel failed to hold my attention for two reasons:

The worldbuilding was well-thought out, but was written like a well-written history textbook, or the sourcebook for a roleplaying game. I wanted to get into this world, not read its history texts.

The few characters I actually saw right away didn't have a "save the cat" moment. I had no reason to empathize with them, and didn't.
As a result, I got maybe
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John Tye
My working theory is that by 1989, when Rama II was published, anything with Arthur C. Clarke's name on it was considered above editing. Though Clarke, being creator of the series and the more prominent name, gets top billing, Lee is said to be the main perpetrator of this work, a follow-up to Clarke's award-winning 1972 Rendezvous with Rama. Both novels deal with expeditions to mysterious alien spacecraft, fifty-kilometer-long spinning cylinders containing an entire world with plains, a sea, ci ...more
Bradley
The measure of a good book for me is two fold. Is it as good now as it was when I was 12? Do I meet people in real life and compare them back to a book's characters? Or at least that is my measure of a good book right now.

This meets both. I could not stop reading this at every opportunity: lunch, breaks, at night. Just as good as when I was a kid. And many many times I have thought that someone reminded me of a person I had only sort of met. And then I remembered that every computer programmer I
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Lee
Feb 27, 2011 Lee rated it 2 of 5 stars
Shelves: fiction
Ah, now I remember this book. Contrary to what I said in my review of Rendezvous with Rama I now recall that four years ago I actually read the first three books in this quadrilogy, not just the first two. This book is frightfully dull but not quite bad enough to warrant quitting the series.

One of the good things about this book's predecessor is how quickly it gets into the action. The cosmonauts are inside Rama within about ten pages. Here we get a hundred pages of inept character development b
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Randall
May 29, 2013 Randall rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: no one
"Worst science fiction book ever" and "Arthur C. Clarke" -- in the same sentence? Sad, but true. How is that possible? I can only guess that Clarke was getting senile, and Gentry Lee, while possessing impressive credentials, just must not be any kind of fiction writer at all.

However it came about, this awful book is the result. As a confirmed science fiction fan, having read hundreds of scifi books in my 57 years of life, the contest is over for the worst of them all.

I hesitate to provide specif
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Andreas
A mysterious giant cylinder is found in space, falling inwards on a trajectory which will take it through the solar system. It is dubbed “Rama”. An expedition is sent to probe it’s contents.

Along with 2001, Rendezvous with Rama is the defining work of Arthur C. Clarke. The book is full of his trademark sense of wonder, and Clarke manages to convey awe at alien things like few others can. The first book is a solo effort. Clarke then teamed up with Gentry Lee to write a sequel trilogy. The whole s
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S.
Like most sequels created due to audience demand, much of the same equation is just spread out over thinner bread. Okay that metaphor mixed. Sequels are oftentimes the same butter spread out thinner over a new slice of bread. Yes. You know what I mean.

What are the sequels that improved? I can't think of any off hand. Movies like terminator 2 and aliens we by different directors I believe. Books: pinball, 1973? I wonder if some theorist can explain why there are basically no literary sequels that
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Steve Blanchette
What a pile of crap! Gentry Lee took over what was an amazing hardcore science fiction novel in Rama and turned it into some crappy drama, with novice style intrigue, a bunch of ridiculous characters that having you going from indifferent to totally hating them. This is a afternoon soap opera with the background of space. I loved Rama, I loved the ideas brought up by Arthur Clarke, and I was so excited to learn more about the Ramans and their ship that the second encounter should have brought, i ...more
Marlon Dean
Sep 19, 2009 Marlon Dean rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Those who want to see the mystery of Rendezvous with Rama run deeper.
A worthwhile book if you enjoyed "Rendezvous with Rama". First, the bad, and there's a fair bit: Rama II is not as good as Rendezvous with Rama, the society is bland, the technological speculation isn't as exciting and the mysteries don't appear until the decidedly more interesting last third (or half, or thereabouts) of the book. When the mysteries do come however, they are just as amazing as in the first book, maybe even more so as the first part of the book, while boring, did a great deal to ...more
Neven
If you liked Rendezvous with Rama, skip this unless you're the world's biggest fan of Gentry Lee. An almost completely unrelated book, this is filled with third-grade soap opera and constant, petty digressions from Clarke's fascinating ideas.

Clarke is not the world's greatest writer and the first Rama book was stilted and nerdy, but it was also ripe with enthusiasm and seriously awe-inspiring ideas. The addition of B-movie drama here doesn't deepen, humanize, or in any way improve Rama; it just
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William Clemens
Having re-read Rendezvous w / Rama last year on a cross country plane flight, this seemed the logical book for this year's cross country flight (and funnily enough, the man in front of me was reading Rendezvous)

When the second Rama craft shows up, Earth is better prepared. Assembling a crew to study the ship, the science is jeopardized when corporate interests are added to the mix and intrigue and murder join the crew aboard the craft. Nicole DesJardin struggles to solve the mysteries of the cre
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Daniorte
No puedo decir que es el peor libro que he leido de A. Clarke porque se nota que no lo ha escrito el. Su nombre será meramente una estrategia comercial o una especie de mecenazgo pero uno se siente engañado, si lo que buscaba era un libro de Clarke.

Mientras que en Cita con Rama todo sucedía rápido y el principal tema era la grandeza de Rama frente a la ingenuidad del hombre, mostrando cosas desconcertantes con una tematica social secundaria. Aquí la esencia del primer libro queda subordinada a u
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Alexander Arsov
Arthur C. Clarke
Gentry Lee

Rama II

Bantam, Paperback, 1990.

12mo. ix, 466 pp. Foreword Rama Revisited by Arthur Clarke [v-ix].

First published, 1989.

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Alas, it is true. I had read tons of negative reviews but somehow I didn't believe the book could be that bad. Well, it isn't. It's worse. Much worse!

Let me say it bluntly in two short sentences. Rama II is no science fiction. It's an ordinary pulp fiction.

T
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David Kerschner
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Stoyan Stoyanov
I am glad I came back to this adventure by Arthur C. Clarke. I have not read a Clarke novel in a very long time and reading this one reminded me what I had been missing. As usual, the science fiction element is really fascinating but it is just a backdrop for a very close examination of human nature, faith, love and betrayal. The novel reads almost like a philosophical treatise at times. Especially interesting for me were the complex implications for our concept of God if ever we discover intell ...more
Si Barron
On the front of my edition there is only one quote "Clarke is the finest living writer of science fiction"- well ok so it's technically wrong Clarke being dead but it's also highly misleading as the actual author of this book is this far less renowned Gentry Lee. It is also revealing that this quote is not in praise of this particular book and yet is the only quote on the cover!

This book is 90% a Mills and Boon potboilling soap-opera and 9% 1950s Flash Gordon type sci-fi. Only 1% I would suggest
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Gaston Prereth
I read this immediately after reading the first Rama book and possibly this quick succession flavored my enjoyment (or lack thereof) of this average space adventure, but even in isolation this book fails to deliver on most of the key components of a good science fiction novel.

The Novel starts slowly and, while the descriptions of Earth's economic slump were interesting enough, they felt out of place in this book and only sought to remove one of the great features of the first book, the politica
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T.J.
This book was quite different from the first one "Rendezvous." I'm not sure if it was becaue he co-wrote it with someone else or because it was part of an originally unplanned series. Anyway, this book is written to develop the characters upon whom the next two books of the series will focus. It is kind of slow in the beginning; located on earth, focused on the people who are going to make a second rendezvous with the enormous spaceship seen in the first book, and with a lengthy discussion on th ...more
Andrew
The second book in the Rama series by Arthur C. Clarke. The story takes place 70 years after the arrival of the first Raman spacecraft into our solar system. This time, a second Rama spacecraft (identical to the first) arrives and the human race is more prepared. They send a more structured team in to investigate this craft and find that this spaceship is not exactly the same as the first.

I really don't know how this book has not become a movie yet. There was a computer game (which was amazing,
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Leslie
This series explores humans reactions to alien spacecraft flying near to earth. It is a topic on some level done to death but there is something about Arthur C. Clarke's painting of this picture that is engaging and unique and even at times surprising. First of all, he doesn't in the end make the humans smarter or better than the aliens, which I love. He places ambitious, curious, religious, driven and scared humans in a fascinating, unknown and unexplainable world. So, the book weaves threads o ...more
Jonathan
An entertaining scifi adventure, with much more character emphasis upon character than the first novel that Clarke wrote. Note to readers, whenever Clarke is credited as a co-writer, it usually means that he provided ideas and advice, nothing more.

Lee's style is serviceable, but nothing special. The explorations of Rama lack any serious revelations, although it does maintain the spooky mystery of the first novel. The sense of exploring a vast, seemingly empty space craft is fun, and the novel k
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Miguel
I have a few mixed feelings about Clarke and Lee's tangential forays into the pasts of their characters. Although they add depth to the characters and the story, they also tend to be annoying distractions from the main plot. I wish the authors had spent more time building the characters in the early chapters and focused on interactions with the ship in the rest of the book. Other than this gripe, this is a solid book. There is more suspense than in its predecessor, and mystery of the ship along ...more
C
The first book in the series, Rendezvous with Rama, was a good read and I was excited about this sequel. No no no. The first was focused on exploration and discovery and the characters were imperfect but hard-working, decent people. Rama II is poorly written, bogged down by inane machinations by cliched and unlikeable characters, and worst of all, reduces the fascinating mysteries of the first book to an increasingly ridiculous premise. Like with the three new Star Wars movies, I wish I could cl ...more
Brian
Some months back, I read Arthur C. Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama. That book ended well, without the necessity of a sequel. Yet a sequel there is (and this particular edition includes a forward by Clarke that gives some explanation as to why there is a sequel), one that was written almost twenty years after the original novel was published. Of course, I can leave no sequel uninvestigated, and so when I found myself looking for a new science fiction title, I turned to Rama II.
This book challenged
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Arthur C. Clarke was one of the most important and influential figures in 20th century science fiction. He spent the first half of his life in England, where he served in World War Two as a radar operator, before emigrating to Ceylon in 1956. He is best known for the novel and movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, which he co-created with the assistance of Stanley Kubrick.

Clarke was a graduate of King's Co
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