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Dune Messiah (Dune Chronicles #2)
Dune Messiah continues the story of the man Muad'dib, heir to a power unimaginable, bringing to completion the centuries-old scheme to create a super-being. "Brilliant...It is all that Dune was, and maybe a little bit more." --Galaxy Magazine
Paperback, 331 pages
Published
June 15th 1987
by Ace/Berkley Publishing
(first published 1969)
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Dune Messiah
By Frank Herbert
A Dune Retrospective by Eric Allen
Four years after the publication of Dune, those who cried out for a sequel were finally answered. Frank Herbert returned to Arrakis for a book that was very different from the action packed first volume of the series, but at the same time, still held a lot of the familiar. When I tell people that I actually enjoyed the sequel to Dune more than the original, the answer I get from the overwhelming majority is, "Wait . . . Dune has a seq...more
By Frank Herbert
A Dune Retrospective by Eric Allen
Four years after the publication of Dune, those who cried out for a sequel were finally answered. Frank Herbert returned to Arrakis for a book that was very different from the action packed first volume of the series, but at the same time, still held a lot of the familiar. When I tell people that I actually enjoyed the sequel to Dune more than the original, the answer I get from the overwhelming majority is, "Wait . . . Dune has a seq...more
Jan 09, 2012
Kerry
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3 of 5 stars
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sci-fi fans who are willing to read the series entire
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The whole thing with Paul being able to (view spoiler) still cool. But on this, my third or fourth reading, I'm realizing there's not much to this book. It simply bridges the first and third. No Jessica, no war, no revolution, no emergence of a new messiah . . . eh.
Also Alia has the potential to be such a fascinating character, but she's underused and underwritten. And I already know that in the next book she's going to be crazy and retconned ha...more
Also Alia has the potential to be such a fascinating character, but she's underused and underwritten. And I already know that in the next book she's going to be crazy and retconned ha...more
I'd have been amazed if this one was as phenomenal as the first, and it wasn't. It was, however, Frank Herbert, who surprises me with his philosophy and world vision all the time. Compared to Dune, though, this book just lacked a lot of protein. Perhaps it's because the incredibly rich new world of Dune/Arrakis was already in place, and I wasn't the wide-eyed, amazed traveler through it any longer, but it wasn't the page-turner of the last for me. Still, I'll read them all, and wish Frank Herber...more
So I thought Dune was the best thing since the bound codex, right? And I read it about five times over the course of my young-adulthood. And then I read Messiah and was pretty much completely dissatisfied. Not enough to give it a poor rating, since it is interesting (I mean, we all still care about Paul, even if he is a whiner) and it did keep my attention.
You haven't seen foreshadowing until you've read Dune Messiah. It takes that to a whole new, grotesque level. And pretentiousness. Thought Du...more
You haven't seen foreshadowing until you've read Dune Messiah. It takes that to a whole new, grotesque level. And pretentiousness. Thought Du...more
I wasn't expecting to like this as much as I liked Dune. But in some ways it was actually better. I love Dune but I love the world, the language, and the over all experience. And even though I like the minor characters, I just never connected with Paul or really any of the leads. Actually I found most of them to be arrogant and manipulative. But this sequel, which is more like an added end chapter, I found some of what I was missing. Paul become more human, questioning his role and his right. An...more
I've avoided the sequels to Dune before this because I was afraid something would go wrong. And, to an extent, something did. Dune Messiah lacks a lot of the action that helped move the original along, its replaced by a lot of philosophying and talk talk talk talk talk. The chapter headings also felt off, as if Herbert didn't have the confidence to do with them what he did for Dune, revealing matters of plot and putting the events of the book within the context of a stable future looking back at...more
After re-reading Dune recently, I decided to finally get around to reading Dune Messiah - the sequel to Dune and the bridge to Children of Dune. Unfortunately, Dune Messiah is a whole lot of standing around and talking for the entire book. It took me a long time to read because I just couldn't find the motivation to keep wading through dense dialogue, and when I did reach the end, I found it sadly to be short and quick, which didn't make up for the long, long drawn-out nature of the book.
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You know what it's like. Every decision seems so obviously sensible, but one thing just leads to another. We've all had it happen to us.
So, last time I had my family murdered by our hereditary enemies, I went into hiding in the desert too, and linked up with the tough native fighters there. I mean, who wouldn't? Since I had psychic powers, it seemed pretty crazy not to use them to gain some respect. Before I knew what had happened, I was the clan's leader. And, you get some momentum, you want to...more
So, last time I had my family murdered by our hereditary enemies, I went into hiding in the desert too, and linked up with the tough native fighters there. I mean, who wouldn't? Since I had psychic powers, it seemed pretty crazy not to use them to gain some respect. Before I knew what had happened, I was the clan's leader. And, you get some momentum, you want to...more
I finally read Dune Messiah, the second book in the Dune series, after years of only having read the first book.
Excellent. Dune and Dune Messiah, together, form a reasonably complete story. Some of it is invalidated and/or retconed by subsequent books (I'm reading Children of Dune right now), which is unfortunate, but in reading Dune Messiah, it's obvious that many elements of the setting, which seem like standard Space Opera color, such as the feudal system, were carefully chosen so nothing wou...more
Excellent. Dune and Dune Messiah, together, form a reasonably complete story. Some of it is invalidated and/or retconed by subsequent books (I'm reading Children of Dune right now), which is unfortunate, but in reading Dune Messiah, it's obvious that many elements of the setting, which seem like standard Space Opera color, such as the feudal system, were carefully chosen so nothing wou...more
I devoured this book in just 3 days, it is simply that compelling. What more can I say about the most-read sci-fi epic ever written? The Dune series has everything I want in an epic: politics, humanity, religion and space. While the first book deals with revolution, noble families and the fulfillment of prophecy, this second part deals with the personal struggle of the new leader of humanity and the emotional ramifications of being the figurehead of a jihad being waged in his name.
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Jul 03, 2010
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Great Sequel, last of the good Dune novels: Is Dune Messiah as good as the original? No, it is not, but it's still a great book.
**Spoilers**
Dune Messiah takes places a little time after Dune, when Paul's Jihad is sweeping the known universe, and Paul is now the Emperor of the Theocracy build around his own mythology. Paul in this book is happily married to Chani, who is having trouble conceiving a child. He haas to deal with the many people who don't like how Paul has brought water to Dune, th...more
**Spoilers**
Dune Messiah takes places a little time after Dune, when Paul's Jihad is sweeping the known universe, and Paul is now the Emperor of the Theocracy build around his own mythology. Paul in this book is happily married to Chani, who is having trouble conceiving a child. He haas to deal with the many people who don't like how Paul has brought water to Dune, th...more
A good friend recently told me that a good way to experience the Dune books is to stick to the odd-numbered books and skip the others. Judging by the first sequel to Dune (which no need to repeat is a masterpiece), Dune Messiah, this is a decent piece of advice.
Dune Messiah is a confusing book. What struck me as oddest, was how different Paul is here compared to the conclusion of Dune. 12 years have passed in the Dune universe, but it feels more like eons. Dune Messiah paints Paul as the absolut...more
Dune Messiah is a confusing book. What struck me as oddest, was how different Paul is here compared to the conclusion of Dune. 12 years have passed in the Dune universe, but it feels more like eons. Dune Messiah paints Paul as the absolut...more
An epic science-fiction saga which is so outstanding that it shines among the stars and galaxies
Frank Herbert’s DUNE series has to be the most remarkable creation within the sci-fi genre, for he literally takes this popular genre to new heights. The epic that began with the Hugo and Nebula award-winning novel DUNE continues in ‘DUNE Messiah’, wherein this inspired creation continues to astonish and dazzle. There is a reason why the DUNE series has sold more than fifteen-million copies worldwide;...more
Frank Herbert’s DUNE series has to be the most remarkable creation within the sci-fi genre, for he literally takes this popular genre to new heights. The epic that began with the Hugo and Nebula award-winning novel DUNE continues in ‘DUNE Messiah’, wherein this inspired creation continues to astonish and dazzle. There is a reason why the DUNE series has sold more than fifteen-million copies worldwide;...more
Just like the original "Dune", Herbert created in "Dune Messiah" a complex plot set within a strikingly complex universe. I have to say though, that I was a little disappointed with this book. I will probably earn the ire of hard-core Dune fans with this review!
Part of this disappointment is unfair. A new series, especially one so creative and complex, benefits from a novelty factor. Every in the first book is new and fascinating. A series subsequent books don't benefit from this novelty factor...more
Part of this disappointment is unfair. A new series, especially one so creative and complex, benefits from a novelty factor. Every in the first book is new and fascinating. A series subsequent books don't benefit from this novelty factor...more
It's a relief to read all those reviews from people who also found Dune Messiah a little bit disappointing, such as I did. At many moments while I was reading it I felt really stupid for not fully understanding some details of the plot or the puzzling and never ending dialogues between characters.
As someone said below, a kind of pretentiousness from Frank Herbert makes us feel that all the characters are smarter than us or something… and why do they have to speak always through hints, even amon...more
As someone said below, a kind of pretentiousness from Frank Herbert makes us feel that all the characters are smarter than us or something… and why do they have to speak always through hints, even amon...more
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I like this, I really did, but there were some thing I found issue with, as with the first. It wasn't a matter of entertainment, for I was very entertained. In fact, Herbert did an amazing job of keeping the tension and emotion ratcheted into high gear. The plots were interesting, the turmoil of the characters fascinating, and the mystery of Paul's visions captivating. It would be hard then, to imagine that there is little to complain about. Well, not exactly. See, J.K. Rowling weaves an enterta...more
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A legitimate sequel (avoid anything that says "Dune" but isn't actually written by Frank Herbert!) that is mostly inferior to the classic first book, but actually has a few things up on it too.
The main thing is that it actually feels like it's not trying to do quite as much as the first book. This is good, because that is a tough act to follow. So while it doesn't have enough new concepts introduced to be a classic itself, the story is more straightforward. Not so straightforward that all themat...more
The main thing is that it actually feels like it's not trying to do quite as much as the first book. This is good, because that is a tough act to follow. So while it doesn't have enough new concepts introduced to be a classic itself, the story is more straightforward. Not so straightforward that all themat...more
1.5 Stars, really. I was fantastically underwhelmed by Dune Messiah, especially after coming off the particularly good Dune. Whereas the first book in the series seemed well-structured and thought out, it’s follow-up seemed to rely much more heavily on cobbled together circumstances, none of which seemed nearly as dire as they were being made out to be.
The first book was thick with detail, intonation, and suggestion, but in spite of this, the careful reader always had a clear understanding of th...more
The first book was thick with detail, intonation, and suggestion, but in spite of this, the careful reader always had a clear understanding of th...more
I loved Dune, so of course I wanted to read the sequels. After reading Dune Messiah, I don't think I'll bother with the rest of the sequels. The majority of this book is a chore to get through, and only the last third of it is interesting. Even so, there is very little that can be called a story in this book, as a large portion of it seems to be spent on describing the political situation and Paul's visions, or on reiterating the same things over and over again until I wanted to scream. The only...more
Originally published on my blog here in November 1998.
The second book in Herbert's Dune series is a bit of a disappointment. Dune itself is a major classic of the science fiction genre, and succeeds admirably with its portrayal of a galaxy full of political and religious manipulation, complicated rules and conventions, Byzantine plots and schemes. But Frank Herbert never managed to repeat its success (in the literary, rather than the sales sense); the closest he came was in a completely unrelate...more
The second book in Herbert's Dune series is a bit of a disappointment. Dune itself is a major classic of the science fiction genre, and succeeds admirably with its portrayal of a galaxy full of political and religious manipulation, complicated rules and conventions, Byzantine plots and schemes. But Frank Herbert never managed to repeat its success (in the literary, rather than the sales sense); the closest he came was in a completely unrelate...more
Main Character's flaw: Paul Maud'Dib, the Kwisatz Hederach or "supreme being" bred by the secretive Bene Gesserit has one major flaw. As head of a religion that is practiced by billions and the ability of prescience, he is considered a complete god. Unfortunately, he is now doomed to kill billions. This because that as a god, he cannot leave office for political reasons and live a life of boredom. Therefore, all his followers are dedicated to protecting him, and "cleanse" the galaxy in religious...more
Reading this book made me feel utterly stupid. Perhaps I am... but I just don't appreciate the reminder! Regardless, Frank Herbert's genius is prevalent in this book just as it was in Dune; however, Dune had more relatable situations and characters one could get to know and love (or hate). I only made it through this book because I already knew and cared for those characters. Reading this book reminded me almost exactly of a college course I once took on statistics - not that the subject matter...more
Doze anos depois do início da Jihad, Paul Atreides, Usul, Muhad’Dib é o Imperador mais poderoso de sempre.
Depois de não ter conseguido impedir a Jihad que o atormentou, espera agora que consiga evitar o caos sob o seu nome.
Vemos neste segundo capítulo da série Dune ser abordado um tema frágil como o da ligação Estado-Igreja e o quão frágil pode ser esse modo de governo. Por entre mentiras e intrigas palacianas, Paul vê-se com o problema da sucessão do trono. Chani não conseguia engravidar e ele...more
Depois de não ter conseguido impedir a Jihad que o atormentou, espera agora que consiga evitar o caos sob o seu nome.
Vemos neste segundo capítulo da série Dune ser abordado um tema frágil como o da ligação Estado-Igreja e o quão frágil pode ser esse modo de governo. Por entre mentiras e intrigas palacianas, Paul vê-se com o problema da sucessão do trono. Chani não conseguia engravidar e ele...more
I must confess my heart sank when I began reading this, the sequel to Dune, to find it seemed to be, not just more of the same mind games played between key characters that its predecessor relied on, but also relatively devoid of action of any kind. There was the usual psychological power play conversations indulged in by powerful individuals who were either human computers, psychics, drug users with heightened prescient awareness, shapeshifters or revenants, in fact nary an ordinary human being...more
It's hard to add anything to what's been said about Frank Herbert's "Dune" in the 45 years since it first appeared. "Dune" was already a classic when i read it in 1981, and unlike many SF books from the cusp of speculative fiction's New Wave, its impact remains as timeless now as it did then. Herbert grounded his sprawling tale of imperial politics and ecological revolution in a character story worthy of Tolstoy, downplaying the nuts-and-bolts aspects of his milieu's technology in a way that pre...more
Dune was a hard act to follow, and Messiah does it admirably. It sticks with the universe the first book set up and tells a compelling story in it, taking the saga to its next logical progression. Perhaps this is where it succeeds and fails. Very little about this novel caught me off-guard. It takes the world of the first book and doesn't really expand on it much. We know most of the pieces already, now they're just doing something a little different. The politics are simplified. The characters...more
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The second volume in Frank Herbert's original Dune series. This one finds us 12 years after the end of Dune. The Jihad that Paul Muad'Dib Atreides had feared has been unleashed upon the Imperial Galaxy, leaving over 6 billion dead. Paul himself has ascended to near-divine status, ruling through a theocracy that reveres him as a quasi-god, his mother as a sort of Virgin Mary, and his Sister Alia as an almost demonic force of nature. At the same time, the ecological changes...more
The second volume in Frank Herbert's original Dune series. This one finds us 12 years after the end of Dune. The Jihad that Paul Muad'Dib Atreides had feared has been unleashed upon the Imperial Galaxy, leaving over 6 billion dead. Paul himself has ascended to near-divine status, ruling through a theocracy that reveres him as a quasi-god, his mother as a sort of Virgin Mary, and his Sister Alia as an almost demonic force of nature. At the same time, the ecological changes...more
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Critically acclaimed and commercially successful American science fiction author.
He is best known for the novel Dune and its five sequels. The Dune saga, set in the distant future and taking place over millennia, dealt with themes such as human survival and evolution, ecology, and the intersection of religion, politics, and power, and is widely considered to be among the classics in the field of...more
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He is best known for the novel Dune and its five sequels. The Dune saga, set in the distant future and taking place over millennia, dealt with themes such as human survival and evolution, ecology, and the intersection of religion, politics, and power, and is widely considered to be among the classics in the field of...more
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