Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography
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Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography

3.46 of 5 stars 3.46  ·  rating details  ·  303 ratings  ·  32 reviews
In "his best achievement to date" (Harold Bloom), National Book Award-winner Roger Shattuck gives us a "deeply learned, highly intelligent, and beautifully written" (New York Times) study of human curiosity versus the taboo, from Adam and Eve to the Marquis de Sade to biotechnology research. Index.
Hardcover, 369 pages
Published August 15th 1996 by St. Martin's Press (first published 1996)
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Christin
About a quarter of the way into the book Shattuck quotes Descartes:

"For it seemed to me that I would discover much more truth in the reasonings of men about what they know directly, men who will bear the consequences if they made a bad decision, than in the reasonings of a scholar in his study, who produces speculations without application and without consequence to him, except perhaps the vanity he finds in their remoteness from common sense..."


Shattuck that says it could be about Faust. I say...more
Jamie
Hmmm...while there was much I thought was intriguing about this book and its premise, at times it seemed a bit more histrionic about some of the worst results of man's quest for knowledge. Though I do have to agree about de Sade's work, it has no particular value to people in general and just celebrates the basest of human drives and revels in the torture and degradation of others in order to achieve sexual fulfillment.

I also have trouble believing that Eichmann set up the Lebensborn program an...more
Saber de Beauvoir
This book gets one star from me only because whenever it criticized a publication, it ended up in my reading list. I am a believer in freedom and the distinction of arts and science. I do not believe that the line is too thin. I do believe that there are immensely crooked governments in the world. Some (mostly medical) limitations are fine, if they are proven by science.

In short, this book showed me the other camp, which I should know about if I'm going to have a strong case of my own. It also...more
Jason
I really liked this book. The author uses literature to question whether there are some things better left unknown. While I think the author is leaning towards the affirmative, he leaves the question open and allows the reader to shape his own views. A good read.
Ck
Dense and deep, in a way which invigorates the mind. Discusses how Western civilization has allowed & disallowed certain forms of knowledge, a working answer to the question: "Is innocence worth ignorance?", particularly in regards to sexuality and immortality.
Colin
This is, without a doubt, one of the best works I have ever read on epistemology. Shattuck offers a truly comprehensive view of the history of forbidden knowledge and the reasons it has been considered "forbidden."
Stephen
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Jonas
A very interesting read. I like the way in which Shattuck tries to divide knowledge into six different categories and his categories feel generally applicable to knowledge, and applicably in various areas.

I did not know much about Sade before reading this, but the chapter about him – alongside the debate about whether or not to censor certain kinds of knowledge – is an enlightening and rewarding one. I was kind of longing for a comparison to American Psycho (which, I was glad to see, made a (too...more
Chris Craddock
The Sphinx, the Syrinx, and the Unicorn

There was a warning about chapter VII so I started reading chapter VII about a certain Marquis. Interesting material. The other parts were interesting, too. It covers a lot of writers and philosophers that I haven't read but would like to study. The part I just read was about Thomas Huxley, father of Aldous, who just coined the term "agnostic." Used the word "neologism" to describe new word creation.

I really enjoyed this book but I took my time. Opposite of...more
Doug
There's no way one can do justice to this book in a short review. It is a wide-ranging literary and philosophical argument that some knowledge, mostly for Shattuck the writings of the Marquis de Sade and scientific experimentation with the Human Genome Project, should be carefully controlled. Written in 1996, would he find the knowledge of HGP "dangerous" were he still alive today? At its core it is an ethical treatment of the literature and philosophy of experience vs. "the veil," i.e., that is...more
Lawrence
Are there things we should not know?

This question is the start and heart of Mr. Shattuck's book. His style makes you feel like you're having a long winding talk with him in his study. There are times of great facetiousness: "Hegel concludes not with an argument but with a saying that is also a miniaturized story and an Irish bull 'To examine this so-called instrument [cognition, knowledge:] is the same thing as to know it. But to seek to know before we know is as absurd as the wise resolution of...more
Candy Wood
Two boxed warnings caution readers that the chapter on the Marquis de Sade contains material not intended for “children and minors,” but the whole book makes clear that Shattuck advocates not banning or forbidding but accurate labeling. Instead of presenting Sade’s works as great literature, as modern editions have, he argues that we should regard them as “potential poison,” and the examples he quotes and describes amply support the argument. Before that, though, chapters on Prometheus, Paradise...more
Leah
I found this book in a box by the side of the road and should have left it there. As a person well versed in the Western canon, I was excited at the prospect of reading an examination of the ideas of forbidden and secret knowledge throughout literature, and was sorely disappointed to find this book little more than a soapbox for Shattuck to moralize on.

Had he kept such moralizing within the bounds of some degree of common sense in relation to the works he was citing, I might have still found it...more
Burcu
This is a good and informative work on forbidden knowledge in literature, science and society. It covers an expansive field of ideas and thus quite enriching. However, there are two things I found somewhat problematic. Shattuck does not provide the boundaries of the definition of the kind(s) of knowledge he discusses clearly. A theoretical section on such a review would be helpful, especially in the connections between the literary works studied. Consequently, the second issue arises, that the c...more
Jesse
Ok, no I haven't read the entire book. I ordered it in order to read the section on Sade. I found the argument contained therein to be rather repulsive. Sade's texts shouldn't be available to to everyone simple because of Ian Brady and Ted Bundy???? What kind of argument is that? It's always disappointing when you're looking for literary criticism and instead find disjointed moralizing based on the author's personal reservations.
Robert
I am not exactly sure what I was expecting when I read this but I have to say this book disappointed me. I think the book is a series of essays about "forbidden knowledge and pornography but I got no sense of anything that he discussed being particularly forbidden. He goes on about the Marquis de Sade whose work although transgressive is fairly dated these days. I got through about four fifths of it and honestly that was a struggle.
Ron
It is indeed possible to know too much, or to pursue information as its own reward, even at the peril of the human race. Quite convincing and much more than merely moralistic. Just ask A.Q. Khan. He's got plenty of know-how he'd like to share (which he started by sharing with his native Pakistan, Iraq and North Korea.)
Benjamin
The section on de Sade was so thorough it included a disclaimer about the evidence provided. An excellent example of letting the primary sources speak for themselves, and a sobering assessment of the ways in which we engage in literary sin.
Nick
Attempts to answer the question, Is there anything we should not know? Startling depth of knowledge. For anyone interested in moral philosophy or the relationships between literature, philosophy, science, and ethics.
Molly
It took me a while to get through this book. Shattuck presents a thoughtful argument against moral relativism and attempts to solve difficult ethical problems. Still, his argument is relevant in today's society.
Erin
Jun 01, 2010 Erin rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Erin by: friend
Shelves: non-fiction
I liked this book because it presented an interesting point of view on the subject, but it was a VERY conservative one. Also, I wondered about some of the author's interpretations of the works he cited.
Chris Pederson
a look at man's quest for knowledge and the taboos against it. He's more conservative than me in that I don't think there is such a thing as too much knowledge but I enjoyed reading it none the less.
M Alan Cox
Not a bad book, but I couldn't disagree with the stodgy and overly-traditionalist mindset more. It's quite telling that Shattuck much prefers Virgil's Ulysses to Homer's Odysseus.
Sam
Decent, but definitely not as enlightening as I was hoping for. I enjoyed the sections about Milton and I learned a few interesting tidbits, but overall, mildly disappointing.
Comicfairy (Leanne)
Other reviews have likely said it better so I'll just say that I have this on my shelf and go back to read it fairly often. Always entertaining!
Jonasdeleon
Feb 19, 2008 Jonasdeleon is currently reading it  ·  review of another edition
This is thought-provoking book that marginally exposes the moral duality in our social construct.
Krishan
An inverse view of history from the side of the oppressed.
We win in the end BTW.
Paul Bauer
Forbid behavior, not knowledge (or speech). "Knowledge is good."--Emil Faber
Julia
Not at all as impressive as the cover art....
Elizabeth
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