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Katz und Maus (The Danzig Trilogy #2)

3.52 of 5 stars 3.52  ·  rating details  ·  2,898 ratings  ·  131 reviews
Rückblickend aus dem Jahr 1959 erzählt Pilenz vom bewunderten und verachteten Klassenkameraden Mahlke im Danzig der Kriegszeit, den sein übergroßer Adamsapfel zum Außenseiter macht. Mahlke führt einen verzweifelten Kampf um Anerkennung mit sportlichen Rekorden, halsbrecherischen Mutproben oder Höchstleistungen auf sexuellem Gebiet. Er will später einmal zum Zirkus und als ...more
Paperback, 260 pages
Published 2010 by Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag (first published 1961)
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Robert Beveridge
I first read Cat and Mouse without the benefit of having read The Tin Drum beforehand, and I missed a lot. Cat and Mouse is the second book in Grass' Danzig Trilogy, three books that look at life in Danzig under the Nazi regime from three different points of view (the tales are told concurrently, and time can be fixed by seeing the same event from different points of view; for example, the picnic taken by the jazz trio and Schmuh in Book III of The Tin Drum shows up towards the end of Cat and Mo ...more
Yousra
من جديد ... هي رواية تم ترشيحها لي .... أمسكت بها في معرض عام قلبتها في يدي ثم وضعتها في مكانها، وها أنا قد حصلت عليها وقرأتها من خلال معرض عام .... وربما لو لم يتم ترشيحها لي ما كنت قرأتها أبدا

مراجعات وتقييمات الرواية غاية في الإحباط وأخص بكلامي مراجعات القراء العرب ممن قرأوا نفس الترجمة تقريبا، بينما لا تعطي المراجعات الأجنبية أي نوع من وسائل القياس

الرواية محبطة فعلا لمن يبحث عن قصة وعقدة وأحداث أو مغامرة ... الترجمة غريبة فقد كنت افاجأ بألفاظ غاية في القبح والمخالفة لما قد أقبله وأتعجب م
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Ahmed Mahmoud Gamal

تكملة قراءة هذا القىء هو بمثابة التكفير عن جميع الذنوب التى ارتكبتها فى الماضى والتى سوف أرتكبها فى المسقبل
لعن الله الملل يا أخى .الروايه لمن يريد التكفير عن ذنوبه وبما انى لا انوى هذه الايام ..فلن اكملها ..(يعنى على دخله رمضان كده
Helen
If you've only read The Tin Drum, and you're looking for more Gunter Grass to read, this is the book for you. It's short and straightforward and quietly devastating.

Beautiful and heartbreaking, this is a story about two school friends, taking place in Germany during World War II.

Pilenz is one of a crowd of teenaged boys who like to hang out together at the beach, occasionally swimming out together to a partially submerged Polish minesweeper. Mahlke is just a kid who wants to belong.

But Mahlke
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Tanuj Solanki
Overshadowed, in literary discourse, by The Tin Drum. Exceptional three and half hour indulgence. 'The Baltic the colour of thick-glass seltzer bottles,' he says. 'Rain is a binder,' he says. 'I, Pilenz - what has my first name got to do with it - formerly an altar boy dreaming of every imaginable future, now the parish hall secretary, just can't let magic alone,' he says.
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Octavio Villalpando
Ésto es lo más cercano a "realismo mágico" que he leído en un autor alemán. Nos narra los acontecimientos en la vida de Mahlke, visto por los ojos de uno de sus condiscípulos. Grass logra crear un universo alterno, bastante realista, plagado de anecdotas.

Se supone que es la segunda parte de una trilogía, no he tenido el gusto de leer los otros dos libros que la conforman, pero seguramente lo haré, me gusto mucho el estilo de escribir del autor, a quien no había leído...
Begoña
"Desde aquel viernes sé lo que es el silencio. El silencio se produce cuando las gaviotas dan la vuelta y se van. Nada es capaz de provocar mayor sensación de silencio que una draga trabajando, cuando el viento se lleva en sentido contrario su estrépito de hierro. Pero el mayor silencio lo produce Joaquín Mahlke, al no contestar a mi ruido."

"El gato y el ratón" forma parte de la llamada "Trilogía de Danzig", junto con "El tambor de hojalata" y "Años de perro". Günter Grass desarrolla la infancia
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Hanipal Hamilcar
إن مابدأ بقط وفأر يعذبني اليوم في شكل طائر خطاف البحر ذي العرف الذي يحوم حول البرك التي تحيطها نباتات الأسل :(
Rachel
If Germans were the ones known for magical realism, I think Cat and Mouse would kind of define the genre--dead pan, literal, and packed with tall tale-ish exageration more than pure and unbelievable magic.

This is a story of two boys going about the very personal business of being boys, amidst the great geopolitical upheaval of their time. While their lives at times intersect with BIG history, it is the personal revolutions, ups and downs that define the narrative and motivate the characters.

I
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Matthew
I picked up this book because I became fascinated by the city of Danzig (today known as Gdańsk, Poland)when looking through some old papers my mother sent me and learning my great-great grandmother met my great-great grandfather met there (both ethnic Germans). This led me through a vast array of wikipedia articles, and the history of this place on the Baltic Coast is turbulent and fascinating. I have much to learn.

Admittedly, I prefer novels that evoke a sense of place over nonfiction history b
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lavinia
This is the kind of book that has a very specific flavor. I remember reading The Tin Drum years ago and, at the time, I liked it a lot, so I was very looking forward to reading this one. Unfortunately, although it has Gunter Grass written all over it and the storytelling is very attractive, I just couldn't relate to the book in any way.

The story is about a young boy who gets very good at swimming, is very well respected by his friends, is rather ugly and, well, has really great sexual performanc
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Fahad
القط والفأر

الجزء الثاني من ما اصطلح على تسميته بثلاثية دانتسغ، والتي تضم إلى جانب هذه الرواية روايتي (الطبل الصفيح) و(سنوات الكلاب)، وتسمى ثلاثية دانتسغ نسبة إلى المدينة التي ولد فيها غونتر غراس، وكتب رواياته الثلاث هذه عنها، ودانتسغ كانت مدينة – دولة فيما بين 1920 م وحتى 1939 م، قبل أن يستولي عليها الألمان في الحرب العالمية الثانية – وقد تعرض غراس لهذا في روايته الطبل الصفيح، وخاصة قصة معركة مكتب البريد البولندي -، ثم آلت بعد ذلك إلى أن تصبح مدينة بولندية وتغير اسمها إلى غدانسك.

وكنت قد كتبت ع
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Hanne

This book reminds me a little of the Great Gatsby, only i liked it better. It has the same neutral, absent narrator who talks to us about this man he knew: Joachim Mahlke. Mahlke is mysterious, a little weird, but none-the-less someone the narrator looks up to: the great Mahlke. (And this is not me inventing that nickname, it is actually used in the book).

The story takes place in Danzig, currently known as the Polish city Gdansk, during the early 1940s. It is however not your normal war-book; t
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Maureen
Jul 24, 2008 Maureen rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Shelves: novel
This is the middle book in Grass' Weimar trilogy, and as such, it is an unusual middle child. It does not suffer from the neglect the middle usually receives, because it is a different type of book, and stands alone. Nowhere as magical as The Tin Drum, it is still a story that has an other-worldly quality to it, because the principal characters are schoolboys growing in Weimar Germany. Joachim Mahlke, the main character, dives for artifacts from a half-sunken minesweeper. His greatest treasure, ...more
Ayla
I read this book in German and I simply do not like it. I did not like the writing style: I was always re-reading sentences, trying to match the parts that belonged together. I have nothing against long sentences, but I do hate the 'Klammerkonstruktion', which is used a lot. And seriously, how much can you obsess over one man's adamsappel? I kept waiting for the story to lead to something, but sadly, it did not build to anything. There did not seem to be a point to the whole story.
I know Günter
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Cinabru Hoffmann
Straniu personaj acest Joachim Mahlke, eroul din a doua parte a Trilogiei Danzig, un Mendebil ce se formeaza pe nesimtite intr-un grup de pusti din orasul mort, unde victoriile armatei germane invincibile si propaganda agresiva sunt adevaratele constante. In loc sa fie interesati de fotbal, bile sau carti de aventuri (unde este inocenta jucausa a lui Tom Sawyer, spre exemplu) pustii din oras sunt pasionati de vase de lupta, dragoare, mine, tancuri, avioane, submarine, infrangeri si explozii. Fie ...more
Arta
**2.5 stars **

Ich bin sehr enttäuscht. Leider hat mir die Geschichte gar nicht so gut gefallen wie ich es mir erhofft hatte.
Ich kam zu Beginn fast nicht in das Geschehen hinein und hatte ziemlich Mühe mit dem Schreibstil des Autors.
Es geht hier um einen Aussenseiter, names Mahlke. Diesen fand ich an sich ja noch ziemlich interessant. Der Erzähler dieser Novelle war sein vermeintlicher Freund, namens Pilenz. Und diesen mochte ich überhaupt nicht. Ich konnte keinerlei Sympathie für ihn empfinden
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Pablo
Joaquín Mahlke es el protagonista de esta novela histórica, donde, como vemos en la trilogía de Danzig, se representa a la sociedad alemana de la época guerra y post-guerra, de una manera quizás mucho más humana, y no en términos de clase maniquea, que estamos harto acostumbrados de ver, lo cual se puede apreciar esta perspectiva histórica, por el hecho de que la novela transcurra en la ciudad, en lo cotidiano, pero a su vez excepcional de esa época de vida en la gente. Este mocetón, que tiene b ...more
ahmed sami elwakeel
بعد ما خلصت الروايه دى
I FEEL LIKE WT THE FAA@#@#$$ !!
وبعد ما قريت اخر ورقتين بعنوان ( عن الكاتب والروايه).
I FEEL LIKE O.M.G
وده بيخليك تعلن الروايه اكتر
كان لزومه ايه الدوخه دى والترجمه الزباله دى
اعتقد لوان الروايه اتنشر منها اخر ورقتين
كانت استحقت نوبل
انا بفضل الروايات اللى من النوع ده تبقى قصه قصيره والقارئ يطلق العنان لخياله
ودى المتعه الحقيقيه
طبعا يكفى للى هيشتريها اخر ورقتين فقط لا غير
carl  theaker
A remembrance of Grass' mid-teen years through a friend, Joachim Mahlke.
Grass' usual effective, nostalgic look at kids growing up, in this
case WWII Germany, doing all the things young boys do everywhere,
memorizing statistics of airplanes and battleships, having secret hiding
places, enduring routines, and going off to war.
بسام عبد العزيز
لا أعلم هل هى الترجمة المملة.. أم أن القصة الأصلية نفسها مملة..
الأسلوب السردي غاية في الإسهاب الوصفي.. الاحداث قد لا تتحرك طوال 5 صفحات متتالية مثلا!
وصلت تقريبا لمنتصف الرواية و لم أفهم لماذا أطلق على البطلين "القط" و "الفأر".. و حتى التبرير العبيط جدا بكون تفاحة آدم تتحرك مثل الفأر كان مبالغا فيه و غير مقبول لي..

طوال منتصف الكتاب معظم الحديث يدو حول "بطلات و صولات و جولات" البطل الرئيسي في الغوص داخل السفن المحطمة و الرجوع من الماء بأشياء جديدة تم تركها في السفينة الغارقة... يغوص الولد و يعود
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Deea
Joachim Mahkle is nothing like Oskar Matzerath, nor is this book as good and full of humor like "The Tin Drum". Reading it was boring and the book was a disappointment.
Eric
what a unique experience this strange book was! my first experience of the author, it was recommended to me over the more famous and daunting Tin Drum. much smaller, a very quick read, & quite evocative of youth slipping away in a small German town before & during world war II. Grass inhabits his young narrator completely, relating his ordinary exploits & adventures with his school chums & particularly one odd character who stood out from the rest due to his enormous adam's apple ...more
Christopher
Bought it again, read it again, gave it away again.
Dave
I read this one closer to deal with the, what I call, artistic narrative. At first I wondered if it was going to be something experimental and difficult to get through like Joyce or some stream of consciousness writer. It wasn't conventionally told, but after some adapting I didn't have a problem. Quite a few passages 'wowed' me with the excellence of phrasing or the way it was so evocative. Although, the narrator, and I believe intentionally, tipped off the reader of the final outcome, it was s ...more
Olga
The novella is about World War II and I don't quite see why Grass had to write it. The Tin Drum seemed all-encompassing. Herr Grass did very thorough research for every single thing he wrote. He wasn't one to write a book every couple of years and advised other writers against this false "productivity". Given this, I was surprised how at his self-repetition. True, the subject of the novella was different from that of "The Tin Drum" but some motifs remained.
However, this is opinion of a person wh
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Pierre E. Loignon
Ce roman raconte moins une histoire qu’elle décrit l’existence d’un jeune individu d’exception, Mahlke, ou « la souris », à partir du regard d’un de ses camarades, Pilensz, « le chat ».
Le chat, fasciné, hypnotisé, dépassé, suit sa souris comme son ombre : « Nous allions dénombrant des énigmes et ne pouvions pas te comprendre ». Il l’admire et la haït parfais, mais, chose certain, il ne peut absolument pas s’en passer.
La souris, dont l’existence se déroule en période nazi, est animée d’une volon
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Nayeli
Al principio me fue difícil seguir la narración, hecha por un personaje que no era el principal, es posible que la traducción afectara mi comprensión, quizá suene tonto de mi parte llamarla demasiado española (en realidad, creo que es la única traducción disponible en mi idioma). El simbolismo de "gato y ratón" que usa la palabra ratón alemana maus como modismo o sinónimo de nuez o manzana de Adán se pierde un poco si no lees la nota al pie y lo tienes presente cuando de nuevo se hace una analog ...more
Ioannis Savvas
Ο Γκύντερ Γκρας θεωρείται ο μεγαλύτερος εν ζωή Γερμανός συγγραφέας, τιμημένος με το Βραβείο Νόμπελ λογοτεχνίας το 1999. Το Γάτα και ποντίκι είναι ένα από τα γνωστότερα μυθιστορήματά του. Ο Γιόαχιμ Μάλκε είναι ένας εκκεντρικός και απομονωμένος τύπος, που την ιστορία του στα χρόνια του Χίτλερ αφηγείται ο φίλος του Πίλεντς. Μια ιστορία απλή, φιλίας και μίσους, εφηβείας, μέσα στον συντηρητισμό της καθολικής εκκλησίας και της έμφυτης τάσης για «υγιή» παραβατικότητα της νιότης. Τελικά, ένας μεγάλος συ ...more
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Günter Wilhelm Grass was a Nobel Prize-winning German author and playwright.
He was born in the Free City of Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland). Since 1945, he has lived in West Germany (now Germany), but in his fiction he frequently returns to the Danzig of his childhood.
He is best known for his first novel, The Tin Drum, a key text in European magic realism. His works frequently have a strong left wing,
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“Y cuando el corredor dijo amén, allí estaba él, con la clara ventana frontal a la espalda, entre la secretaría y la dirección: él, el Gran Mahlke, pero sin ratón, porque llevaba en el cuello el singular objeto, el abretesésamo, el magneto, lo contrario de una cebolla, el trébol galvanizado de cuatro hojas, el engendro del buen viejo Schinkel, la golosina, el aparato, la cosa cosa cosa, el no-quiero-hablar-de-eso. ¿Y el ratón?” 1 likes
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