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Full Black (Scot Harvath #10)

by Brad Thor (Goodreads Author)

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#1 New York Times bestselling author Brad Thor brings readers his darkest and most intriguing thriller yet—a terrifying story of espionage and betrayal—brilliantly paced with superb nonstop action.

Born in the shadows and kept from heads of state, there are some missions so deadly, so sensitive, that they simply don’t exist.

When one such mission goes horribly wrong, a wave

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Published July 26th 2011 by Atria

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Oct 16, 2012 Linda Munro marked it as to-read

This book scared me, and I would like to briefly explain why:

Recently, I had a discussion with my eldest grandchildren concerning the 12/21/2012 Mayan long-count calendar end date. I explained that the Mayans believed in a cyclic process in life (i.e. this has happened before and it will happen again) therefore the end date simply means a birth of a new era. Giving an example, I explained how the Puritans came to the new world to escape religious persecution and live by the Bible, only to persec...more

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Aug 11, 2011 Dave Compton rated it 2 of 5 stars

I keep forgetting brad thor has gone off the deep end on politicl policy. Use to just write good thrillers but now he writes wacko right wing commentary. Too bad. Couldn't get past first few chapters before he started in on the benefits of torture and those opposed being communists. Then onto the theory that the country is under attack by liberals as if we were inches away from becoming another cuba? No, china? No. France, that's it's. Hard to believe when we have become more conservative than e...more

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Feb 25, 2012 Elyse rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2012, espionage

I think I'm done reading books by Brad Thor.

I enjoy espionage and covert ops genre novels, especially because I believe it's a complex world and I respect the patriots who put their lives on the line on our behalf trying to protect our liberties and our community.

But Thor's novels are increasingly filled with not-so-subtle caricatures of liberals and Democrats as teetering on the edge of terrorism and anarchy themselves. If I have to choose a political camp, it is the liberal/Democratic one. I d...more

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Jul 19, 2012 Joe Wisniewski rated it 5 of 5 stars · review of another edition

Looks like I have to go back and start this Scot Harvath series from the beginning. There is a certain Jack Ryan --> Jack Bauer feel here ... While it is easy to "run with" contemporary terrorist plot books to an extreme, I don't think that I will ever walk through an airport again without being more situationally aware that I am now .. Not due to a renewed fear of every Arab-looking person I see ... but, just proactive .. awareness.

I especially found the concept of hitting the "Big 30" compa...more

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Jan 18, 2013 M.D. rated it 1 of 5 stars

Wow. I've been an avid thriller reader for over 45 years and was shocked at the blatant right wing agenda in this book. The action was quite good, and when Thor wasn't preaching right out of the FOX news handbook, very compelling. However, the outright conservative blather was enough to make my stomach clench. Unfortunately, I couldn't even get through it and have a inkling to ask Amazon for a refund.

The main protagonist, a hero who gives his life for our country and "freedoms" over and over aga...more

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Mar 23, 2013 Erin rated it 5 of 5 stars

One of the best Scot Harvath books yet! Brad Thor kind of frightens me with the things that he writes. I worry that if his books get in the wrong hands we are all in very big trouble. I love his views on terrorismand truly hope there are groups like The Carlton Group out there to save the world. In this thriller Scot is realizing how much he wants to find the right girl and settle down. But of course there is never time for that when he is needed to save the world. His love interest in not much...more

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Jun 09, 2012 Joel Anderson rated it 5 of 5 stars

In my first read of a Brad Thor book, Full Black grabbed my attention and held it as the pages flew by.

The plot was interesting with numerous twists that kept my mind racing along with the characters trying to figure out what would happen next. Across continents and in many venues, the action kept moving and I wondered whether the protagonists would succeed in unraveling the plot against the US...and, if so, how much damage would occur before they could do that. I will not ruin the story but wil...more

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Dec 15, 2011 Norm rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: books-i-bailed-on

I’d never read a Brad Thor book, and when I ran across FULL BLACK, I thought, “oh, good, a thriller writer I hadn’t read.” The book started off really well with a chase and capture of a terrorist while substituting an undercover operative into the terrorist cell. But soon I was frowning as Thor’s political viewpoints started emerging. I don’t expect to agree with all of an author’s political thoughts – Michael Crichton, for example, wrote some of the best fiction I’d ever read and he passionatel...more

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Sep 22, 2011 Doug Branscombe rated it 5 of 5 stars

Great read. Scott Harvath is battling evil again, this time against a group aiming to systematically dismantle all that is taken for granted in the USA. The background of this effort can be summed up with this excerpt:

"A democracy can only exist until the voters discover they they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From the moment that realization takes hold, history shows that the majority of the people will always vote for the candidate promising the most goodies from the...more

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Sep 08, 2011 Maureen rated it 4 of 5 stars

This is a sit on the edge of your seat read, and do not expect to sleep at night as this is one time I could not put my kindle down. Absolutely love this book and the high stress of Scott Harvath's ability to ferret out the bad guy every time. Would that were true in reality. Though there are some pretty amazing men and women out there on the lines every day trying to get these terrorist rat bags off our soil. The movement of the book was intense. One disappointment was the ending was anticlimac...more

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Sep 07, 2011 Lola Sharp rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: thriller

I love thrillers, and CIA thrillers especially. And while I enjoyed some of Thor's earlier Scot Harvath books, they've taken a sharp turn for the worse. Yes, Thor's Harvath has always been an ego-laden 'Mary Sue' character, Thor's wish-fullfillment. And, yes, the prose has always been basic. But the action used to be thrilling and, well, action-packed... and not bogged down with Thor's obvious, in-your-face, personal political agenda/propaganda. I know military books tend to have a right-wing be...more

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Aug 22, 2011 Shawn Davis rated it 2 of 5 stars

Scot Harvath is back, and everything seems to be going wrong. A brilliant plan for the takedown of a major terrorist player has been put into action, but the devastating result causes him to step back and re-evaluate what he is working toward. Meanwhile, seemingly unrelated events are playing out in Los Angeles. Those events soon prove to be the key to discovering what is compromising everything they are working for. Even worse, a larger terrorist attack has been put into play, and Scot and his...more

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Aug 19, 2011 Jennie Helderman added it

Spies, conspiracy, thrills. Brad Thor hooks his reader with the first sentence and ends every paragraph with a lead to the next. Even ends the book so that a sequel can keep the story unfolding. A man's book up and down. Not ordinarily what I'd choose to read but I heard Thor speak---he travels with an armed body guard and speaks in front of a large American flag---found him charming, and thus bought the book.

For my part, I found too many information dumps where dialog has no purpose other than...more

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Aug 13, 2011 Beth Pearson rated it 3 of 5 stars

I would have given this 4 or 5 stars if it wasn't for frequent use of the F-word. Maybe terrorists and government interrogators talk like that all the time. I don't know. I do know I don't like it or want to read it.

This is actually my husband's book that I pick up and started reading while we were camping. I read faster then him and for longer periods of time so I passed him and finished the book long before he did.

Apparently, this is Book #10 of the main character---Scot--who is an ex governme...more

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Aug 12, 2011 Dale Barnhart rated it 5 of 5 stars

Ive read almost all of Brad Thor's books, and even though I gave it 5 stars its not as good as some of his others. At just under 400 pages, its not as long as some of his books, and the storyline isn't as developed as other books of his. For me, the character James Standing is an interesting addition to the plot. Though there is no shortage of bad guys in the world of Islamic Jihad, in America we have been reluctant to go after people within our borders who bear not obvious resemblance to the ty...more

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Aug 11, 2011 Jackie rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

I learned something about myself in the reading of this book: that if I'm going to read a thriller (and usually in my mind that means ACTION) I expect it to start right away. There was an awful lot of set-up in this book, at least so it seemed to me. But once things got going, it was full of action.

I've mentioned before that I'm not a huge fan of "cause" books - agenda books. And this was clearly one of those, actually on several fronts. But somehow I didn't mind it so much, I guess because of a...more

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Aug 04, 2012 Alain Burrese rated it 5 of 5 stars

I'm a fan of Brad Thor's and I've read all of his books. I really like the Scot Harvath character, and I've enjoyed how he has matured, changed, and developed through the series of books Thor has written. In this newest novel, “Full Black,” Thor continues the saga of Scot Harvath and now he works for a private company, rather than the government, but he's still doing what Harvath does best, stopping bad guys, and it Harvath's case, bad guys are international terrorists intending to do harm to Am...more I'm a fan of Brad Thor's and I've read all of his books. I really like the Scot Harvath character, and I've enjoyed how he has matured, changed, and developed through the series of books Thor has written. In this newest novel, “Full Black,” Thor continues the saga of Scot Harvath and now he works for a private company, rather than the government, but he's still doing what Harvath does best, stopping bad guys, and it Harvath's case, bad guys are international terrorists intending to do harm to America or U.S. Citizens. “Full Black” is action packed and suspenseful, and it contains the special operations intel that Thor readers have come to expect. It's a riveting thriller that makes one think about what people are really planning and how, just like the intricate plot of this book, there are those planning intricate plots against our country. Thor has his finger on the pulse of world and writes an entertaining, yet alarming novel of suspense and action.

There was something that I noticed a bit more in this novel than some of Thor's earlier works for sure, and that is his political views. There are a number of places where he inserts his own views in political commentary. These views are very pro military when he's in that realm, and the “bad guy's” world view will remind those that keep up with current events about certain views of the world, and if you agree with Thor politically, you'll nod in agreement and enjoy the story. If you don't agree with Thor politically, and his views are conservative and pro America, you won't enjoy this book as much. I'm sure some readers won't like the amount of political commentary included in this novel. However, I must remind readers that it is the politics that drives the attacks that the hero, Harvath, must deal with.

Another thing a bit different about this book was that Harvath didn't seem to be as front and center as he was in previous books. Yes, he was still a main character, and he had his share of action, but not as much as he did in earlier works. With that said, there were other characters introduced that I liked, especially Luke Ralston, a character I wouldn't mind seeing in future books Thor writes.

The book ends with a cliff-hanger, as Thor has done before. While the ends of this story were wrapped up, he does leave us hanging on the last page. Some people don't mind this, and just wait for the next novel, and it is a good strategy to get people interested in what comes next. However, some readers don't care for this kind of conclusion to a book. I'm a fan, so yes, I will read the next book, and I do want to find out what comes next.

Thor creates good, fast paced, action yarns. His thrillers are current and reflect on things going on in the world today. They are fun, suspenseful, and contain both action and political commentary. I enjoyed “Full Black” as some fun escapism reading, and that's what thriller novels are for.(less)

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Aug 26, 2011 Simon rated it 5 of 5 stars

I believe Full Black by Brad Thor is officially one of the fastest book I've completed. At about 400 pages, I finished it in about three nights of heavy reading. Surprisingly, Full Black is the tenth book in the Scot Harvath series and if intense action is your genre, you'll do yourself a good favor by looking into this series. Prior to this, I invested a lot, and I mean a whole lot, of time reading the Mitch Rapp series. The Scot Harvath character is very similar to Mitch Rapp in that they are...more I believe Full Black by Brad Thor is officially one of the fastest book I've completed. At about 400 pages, I finished it in about three nights of heavy reading. Surprisingly, Full Black is the tenth book in the Scot Harvath series and if intense action is your genre, you'll do yourself a good favor by looking into this series. Prior to this, I invested a lot, and I mean a whole lot, of time reading the Mitch Rapp series. The Scot Harvath character is very similar to Mitch Rapp in that they are both super secret agents sent out to battle terrorism and help defend the United States. While Full Black is another book about hunting down Muslim terrorist set out to cripple the United States, reading these sort of books doesn't bore me because what makes these books most interesting is how strikingly real the depicted situation can be.

As with many of these counter-terrorism thrillers, you're going to get big a dosage of secret agents, mention of the FBI and CIA, insider betrayals, raids, killings, weapon usages, interrogation and pretty much just a whole lot of ass-kicking. Full Black I don't believe sets any new standards by any means but like I've mentioned in the beginning, these books are awesome to read because you get to ask yourself the big ol' question of "What if?" This is the driving factor in making or breaking a book of this sort.

Since Full Black is my first introduction to the Scot Harvath series, I was afraid I wouldn't be up-to-date with the whole back story of the main character. However, the author does a very good job of bringing new readers like me into the loop. With books like these, you can't have a secret black ops agent who play by the rules. Technically you could but it wouldn't be very fun to read. You need someone who is willing to take the fight to the bad guys, use any means necessary to get the information they need to save lives and one that is quick thinking and witty to deal with anything that gets thrown their way. Scot Harvath is this person.

What makes Full Black so exciting is the frightening and realistic situation of what could happen when someone has too much money, power and time on their hands. Money can't buy you happiness but can it buy you a whole new world order? I don't want to reveal the storyline too much for fear of spoiling it but I can assure you that you will definitely think about the United States in its current state right now and wonder if something like within Full Black can happen one day. It's a bit far fetched but it's definitely within the realm of possibility. The conversation/interview between James Standing and the journalist was brilliant and haunting at the same time. It really makes you reflect on the current affair of the United States. Full Black is just so addicting and it's due mainly to the pace the author sets. Once the action gets going, it rarely lets up and you'll find yourself reading one chapter after another until you realize it's past your bedtime! (less)

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Aug 01, 2011 Bruce Snell rated it 4 of 5 stars

This is the 10th book in Brad Thor's Scott Harvath series. Once again, Harvath is hunting down terrorists - only this time he is working for a private company with a Dept. of Defense contract. This time the terror conspiracy is on an international grand scale with the underlying effort to bring America down and force the US into communism. The terrorist in chief is really a businessman named James Landing - who is clearly patterned on George Soros. Of course, in the end, Harvath foils the major...more

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Aug 25, 2011 Michael Cremin rated it 5 of 5 stars

Since reading Term Limits last summer, I've re-discovered my love of thrillers, especially political thrillers. Sure, they can be sort of hackneyed (I couldn't tell you the difference between Vince Flynn's and Brad Thor's main characters, for example) but they are fun to read, and often times shine a light on contemporary issues facing the United States. Full Black is my second Brad Thor novel, and I enjoyed it. A thinly disguised George Soros-type figure plots to destroy America from within so...more Since reading Term Limits last summer, I've re-discovered my love of thrillers, especially political thrillers. Sure, they can be sort of hackneyed (I couldn't tell you the difference between Vince Flynn's and Brad Thor's main characters, for example) but they are fun to read, and often times shine a light on contemporary issues facing the United States. Full Black is my second Brad Thor novel, and I enjoyed it. A thinly disguised George Soros-type figure plots to destroy America from within so that he can usher in a new era of utopian socialism. To do this, he funds and directs a network of radical Muslim terrorists, and attacks America on multiple, simultaneous fronts: airports, movie theaters, corporations, the electrical system, etc. Of course, the main character and his associates swing into action and stop the majority of the events, saving America from evil. Lots of gun fights, tense build ups to terrorist attacks, and "where is the bomb?" sorts of interrogations make this book a page-turner. Thor is a competent writer.

What I find much more interesting about these sorts of books are the 'real world' issues the author highlights. From our inevitable clash with China to the sorts of vulnerabilities we have as a nation, Thor (and others like him) force their readers to reckon with the type of world we are living in: a dangerous one. Thor's politics are certainly conservative (to say the least!) and his political ideology colors his writing. There is a long exchange between the evil pseudo-Soros and a beautiful reporter for the Financial Times, for example, about the differences between socialism and capitalism. I'll leave it to you to imagine which system the author prefers. Likewise, the good guys in the book have absolutely no problem torturing people to get information, and Thor makes it clear that 'by any means necessary' is far more important than, say, the law.

A fun book; a quick read; a pulse-pounder at parts, and some food for thought. If you like this sort of thing, you'll enjoy Full Black. (less)

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Mar 27, 2013 Steve rated it 3 of 5 stars

This, of course, is the 2011 edition of the long, continuous saga of covert counterterrorism operative Scot Harvath and his colleagues at the Carlton Group.

Spy thriller author Brad Thor returns to his winning formula in this one. Here again, you’ll find lots of high tech gear, lots of murder and mayhem. Unlike his counterparts at the real CIA, FBI and Homeland Security Agency, Harvath and his team don’t have to worry about being politically correct or appearing before a Senate committee investig...more

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Aug 08, 2011 Giovanni Gelati rated it 5 of 5 stars

I wanted to start the week off with this; it sizzles. I have been a Brad Thor fan since his first novel and have enjoyed his work ever since. Apparently there are many others like me out there; his popularity just seems to soar with each new novel. “Full Black” is a major political statement and commentary on our way of life. Do I agree with all of it? Hey I was taught not to discuss politics and religion when I am talking to friends so I am staying away from that. The novel was a barnburner and...more I wanted to start the week off with this; it sizzles. I have been a Brad Thor fan since his first novel and have enjoyed his work ever since. Apparently there are many others like me out there; his popularity just seems to soar with each new novel. “Full Black” is a major political statement and commentary on our way of life. Do I agree with all of it? Hey I was taught not to discuss politics and religion when I am talking to friends so I am staying away from that. The novel was a barnburner and a load of fun. I like the characters; I enjoyed the twists and turns, the speed and velocity of the action, and most of all I enjoyed Scot Harvath. Give me more, now!
Here is the synopsis from Amazon Books:
“#1 New York Times bestselling author Brad Thor brings readers his darkest and most intriguing thriller yet—a terrifying story of espionage and betrayal—brilliantly paced with superb nonstop action.
Born in the shadows and kept from heads of state, there are some missions so deadly, so sensitive, that they simply don’t exist.
When one such mission goes horribly wrong, a wave of dramatic terrorist attacks is set in motion. Their goal: the complete and total collapse of the United States.
With the CIA’s intelligence abilities hobbled, former Navy SEAL Team 6 member turned covert counterterrorism operative Scot Harvath launches an audacious plan to infiltrate the terrorists’ network and prevent one of the biggest threats the United States has ever faced.
Simultaneously, a foreign wet work team has been sent to California. Their target: one of Hollywood’s most famous filmmakers.
While working on a secret documentary project, movie producer Larry Salomon has unknowingly exposed one of the world’s wealthiest and most politically connected powerbrokers—a man with a radical anti-American agenda poised to plunge the nation into deadly, irreversible chaos.
As the plots rocket to their pulse-pounding conclusion and the identities of the perpetrators are laid stunningly bare, Harvath will be left with only one means to save America. Unable to trust anyone, he will be forced to go Full Black.
Intense and frighteningly realistic, FULL BLACK is, hands down, Brad Thor’s most riveting thriller to date.”

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Mar 22, 2013 David S. rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: audio, adventure, suspense

I've never read anything by Brad Thor. A lot of people I've talked to compared this author with the likes of Vince Flynn (his Mitch Rapp character). I had my experience with Flynn, and wasn't really that impressed, so I put this off for a while. My only regret now is...Why did I start at #10 in Thor's series?

As far as comparisons to Flynn are concerned, there is no comparison! Brad Thor is a very good writer, and even though the situations and action sequences are over the top, they are brillian...more

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Jan 31, 2013 Patrick Dawson rated it 4 of 5 stars

Good book; scary real. If you like Tom Clancy and Ben Coes, then you will also like Bard Thor. This novel brings to light real threats and vulnerabilities in the world, but there is not a way to cover all our defenses. Thank goodness there are those out there protecting our liberties and safety. This book delves into the hidden world of protecting the US. The story was real and like a good Western, the good guys will always win in the end. My small mind had to scramble to remember characters lik...more

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Jul 12, 2012 Oz rated it 4 of 5 stars

I was all psyched up to read this book, had heard great things about the book and this writer, figured I would check it out. While I rated this a 4 i wish i could have rated it a 3.5!
Dont get me wrong this book deserves some merrit, but not the accolades that it has been given. I cant say i didnt enjoy it, because I did, but I just didnt find it as riveting as I had hoped. The writer does a great job of giving you food for thought on numerous aspects of the current shape of the USA. As an intel...more

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Aug 10, 2011 aspasiacat rated it 4 of 5 stars · review of another edition

A great pick for summer reading especially if sleeping is not part of the plan. This thrill ride is packed with political intrigue, terrorism and enough adventure to keep the reader guessing about what will happen next. If you are an avid Thor fan you'll enjoy this latest Scott Harveth series book - (but, it is certainly a stand-alone one as well).

When terrorists plan to pull the plug on America quite literally as it turns out, Harveth gears up for the fight of his life - spanning the world fro...more

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Nov 30, 2011 Marilyn Rondeau rated it 5 of 5 stars

As the state of the world gets more and more complicated there are those unsung heroes whose work is so deadly and sensitive that most people don’t know they exist, nor do they know of the threats that are kept isolated and away from the average citizen. It is these unsung heroes whose missions are so deadly and sensitive that should the world know of threats, no one would sleep at night. When a mission goes terribly wrong, the instigators who masterminded the terrorist cells unleashes his deadl...more As the state of the world gets more and more complicated there are those unsung heroes whose work is so deadly and sensitive that most people don’t know they exist, nor do they know of the threats that are kept isolated and away from the average citizen. It is these unsung heroes whose missions are so deadly and sensitive that should the world know of threats, no one would sleep at night. When a mission goes terribly wrong, the instigators who masterminded the terrorist cells unleashes his deadly plan of attack that was formed to decimate the total collapse of the United States as we know it.

*** Now living in the 21st century, life has changed dramatically in these United States for people like me who remember the carefree days of our youth. Time marches on and so does the technology, so much so that attacking the innovative marvels of this century would put such a tailspin on those who have grown dependent upon them. What Brad Thor has accomplished in FULL BLACK is to outline how disastrous it would be should the unthinkable happen and the events of this fiction become a reality. But, what frightened me the most was to take this fictionalized outline and be able look at it as a prime example of what could actually be happening today under our very noses. In that respect, this was a horrifying thought considering the state of consciousness that exists in America today.

What Thor presented in this tale with his go-to fix-it hero, Scott Harvath, was a tremendously constructed fictionalized tale that was not only believable, but totally engrossing from page one to the very last. Scot Harvath was one tough dude who I would definitely want on my side. He was 100% patriotic and got the job done. FULL BLACK read like headlines ripped off of the nations newswires and I could almost imagine that there was some truth to his fiction.

BOTTOM LINE: Everyone should read this book. It is one of the best suspense tomes I have read in a long time and might push the lackadaisical populace of America into paying attention to what is really going on around them today!
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Oct 12, 2011 Joanne rated it 4 of 5 stars

What do the attempted murder of a Hollywood movie producer and terrorist attacks have in common? Find out in this black ops thriller from Brad Thor.

The black ops team, led by Scot Harvath, kidnaps a suspected terrorist and sends an operative into the cell in Manssor Aleem's place. On the brink of uncovering something really big, everything unravels when the team tries to extract the cell infiltrator.

They know something big is going to happen, but don't know where or when. When attacks spring u...more

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Jan 13, 2012 Steven Hildreth Jr. rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: action-adventure-challenge

Thor's earliest books were solid hits all around...as of late, though, he has been hit and miss, and Full Black is the epitome of that--it is both hit and miss all at once.

The strong point of the novel is its plot. A Chinese plan to destroy the United States is hijacked by an anti-capitalist philanthropist, and Thor mainstay Scot Harvath is dispatched to investigate the threat. A side plot--arguably the best part of the book--involves a Hollywood producer and his tech consultant friend, a former...more

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Dec 07, 2011 Candy rated it 2 of 5 stars

I almost did not read this book at all. I have always enjoyed this series but the last two books, were good but full of the author bashing liberals/ Democrats. Having been a life long Democrat myself, I was extremely annoyed and even angered by his message. There is a reason why I don't watch Fox News. Then when I read that the author had been on Glenn Beck and other Fox News talking heads, I REALLY questioned if I should read this latest installment.
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