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The Gate to Women's Country
Tepper's finest novel to date is set in a post-holocaust feminist dystopia that offers only two political alternatives: a repressive polygamist sect that is slowly self-destructing through inbreeding and the matriarchal dictatorship called Women's Country. Here, in a desperate effort to prevent another world war, the women have segregated most men into closed military garr...more
Paperback, 315 pages
Published
1999
by Voyager
(first published November 1st 1987)
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Elizabeth
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Fuck. I don't know how to talk about this book. This is one of those books that comes out a tradition of science fiction books: Herland, The Shore of Women, Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series, and The Handmaid's Tale about women in utopian or dystopian societies. But it also comes out a feminist tradition in the nineteen-seventies and eighties of political theory about how to bring about the revolution (or liberation, whatever you want to call it). Books like: Sisterhood is Powerful and The...more
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Tepper offers a fascinating meditation on how a post-apocalyptic people might seek to limit the potential for future violence and thus avoid another devastating (presumably nuclear) holocaust. The division of genders into Women's Country and the Warrior society is a deeply unsettling one. The men live a Hobbesian life that is nasty, brutish, and short, while the women preserve a disconcertingly passive-aggressive tyranny based on secrets and half-truths and closeted eugenics programs. The book s...more
My review just disappeared and I really don't feel like regurgitating the specifics of my dislike for this book again, so this will be shorter than my original. How annoying.
Basically, the book left a sour taste in my mouth... The only options for civilization (or anything resembling it) are a primitive, polygamous society that abuses its women and leaves infant girls out to die; roving bands of Gypsies that act as traveling whorehouses; and Women's Country where the "Damned Few" keep the truth...more
Basically, the book left a sour taste in my mouth... The only options for civilization (or anything resembling it) are a primitive, polygamous society that abuses its women and leaves infant girls out to die; roving bands of Gypsies that act as traveling whorehouses; and Women's Country where the "Damned Few" keep the truth...more
This is the book that introduced me to Sheri Tepper. It addresses questions of why humanity is so violent and possible solutions, of gender politics, of what a future might be like if men and women did not live together as a rule.
In this post-apocalyptic future, matriarchal women live in walled towns, carrying on agriculture, arts, crafts and politics. Men live outside the towns in warrior garrisons, to protect the women.
The story is about our heroine and how she learns some of the secrets of h...more
In this post-apocalyptic future, matriarchal women live in walled towns, carrying on agriculture, arts, crafts and politics. Men live outside the towns in warrior garrisons, to protect the women.
The story is about our heroine and how she learns some of the secrets of h...more
I hate this book. Maybe I should read it again, but there's so many other books I want to read, so many other books I'd rather read again than this one.
Maybe there was some sort of thing I missed the first time I read it in college, but mostly it made me mad.
They got rid of homosexuality, most of the men are brutes and facist and violent, except for the servitors. Yet the women still have sex with the brutish men even as they are trying to breed them out of existence.
Then you get some random sca...more
Maybe there was some sort of thing I missed the first time I read it in college, but mostly it made me mad.
They got rid of homosexuality, most of the men are brutes and facist and violent, except for the servitors. Yet the women still have sex with the brutish men even as they are trying to breed them out of existence.
Then you get some random sca...more
I remember reading this book for a Science Fiction class I took in college. Unlike probably everyone else in the class, except for my friend Chris, I hadn't ever gone through a scifi phase, or ever liked reading scifi books. The closest I ever came was really liking Star Wars and other movies as a kid. I'd even tried once reading a Star Wars novel as a kid and thought it was stupid and gave up on it.
So I took this class in a genre I had no interest in, and the teacher was all gung-ho about sf b...more
So I took this class in a genre I had no interest in, and the teacher was all gung-ho about sf b...more
I have found Tepper to be frustratingly uneven as a writer. When her stories take on what might be called a "feminist" theme, they don't work as well for me as those who explore other themes.
This novel has a frame that I found especially irritating because the emotions described in the frame were never earned, and I did not find myself believing in or caring about them.
The inner story was, by contrast, quite engaging, and I found myself wishing that she had left out the frame entirely.
This novel has a frame that I found especially irritating because the emotions described in the frame were never earned, and I did not find myself believing in or caring about them.
The inner story was, by contrast, quite engaging, and I found myself wishing that she had left out the frame entirely.
More like 3.5 and the end had me nudging the 4.
Women's country is the story of a society created after we almost wiped humans off the face of the earth with our wars. Their idea is to keep the women separated from the warriors. The boys are taken from their families at age five to train with the warriors. At age 15 they need to make a decision on whether they want to live inside the walls with the women or continue their lives as fighters. The wars that are fought include only the warriors so t...more
Women's country is the story of a society created after we almost wiped humans off the face of the earth with our wars. Their idea is to keep the women separated from the warriors. The boys are taken from their families at age five to train with the warriors. At age 15 they need to make a decision on whether they want to live inside the walls with the women or continue their lives as fighters. The wars that are fought include only the warriors so t...more
This book found me while I was browsing through used sci-fi paperbacks and I bought it for two reasons. The first was that the cover treatment reminded me of
Snow Crash
thus endearing itself to me by association. The second is that I have particular interest in science fiction by women, since that's what my first novel will classify as, should I ever finish it.
Like most sci-fi by women, there isn't enough action or technology; gender roles are explored through interpersonal relationships, and...more
Like most sci-fi by women, there isn't enough action or technology; gender roles are explored through interpersonal relationships, and...more
A friend sent me this knowing full well that I didn't like futuristic novels-he said I am sending this to one of the strongest women I know! I have probably read it 100 plus times (it is like comfort food-I found myself reading it along with the New Testament the week my sweet husband died ). I like the empowerment given to some women even though the men can't or don't want to understand. The empowered women see themselves as the damned as they manipulate the DNA and the numbers of their civiliz...more
This is my favorite Sheri S. Tepper book. Many people consider her work to be "lite," and that characterisation is accurate. But easily understood, broadly stated truths are truths nonetheless.
I enjoy this book first and foremost for its detailed and fascinating depiction of a post-apocalyptic matriarchal society (much less depressing than A Canticle for Leibowitz). The characters are well-fleshed out and compassionately portrayed, even the villains. And despite the futuristic setting, this is...more
I enjoy this book first and foremost for its detailed and fascinating depiction of a post-apocalyptic matriarchal society (much less depressing than A Canticle for Leibowitz). The characters are well-fleshed out and compassionately portrayed, even the villains. And despite the futuristic setting, this is...more
The Gate to Women's Country takes place in a post-apocolyptic society where men and women are segragated. The women live in walled villages and control the economy and education. Boys are raised in the women's community until they are 5 at which point they are sent to be raised and trained by the men. Most of the men are warriors and live in separate garrison cities. Some men however, at the age of 15, chose to dishonor themseleves and return through the gate to women's country to be servants fo...more
This was the third book for Off the Map; my friend Jess chose it. I enjoyed it a lot. I'm not usually a sci-fi reader and I hate apocalyptic stories but I liked this story; it wasn't nearly as oooooooooooohhh! racy as one might think b/c all these women live together, separated from the warrior men, after some sort of nuclear ending of the world (the "convulsion"). There's no girl-on-girl action, in other words.
BUT, it's interesting how the author compares/contrasts what's happened to these wome...more
BUT, it's interesting how the author compares/contrasts what's happened to these wome...more
I first read this book when I was in high school and frankly, I neither understood it nor enjoyed it. Later, after reading most of Tepper's backlist in my twenties, I decided to revisit this novel and found it to be provocative and well thought out, if dated at that point. It is one of those, how shall I say, books written by women with the mindset of the feminist movement of the late seventies/eary eighties. So if you take it from that particular historical perspective, it's easier to swallow....more
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Some books aren't just meaningful. In the case of this book, it changed me. Since finishing this book, years ago, I never again read post-apocalyptic fiction the same way. I didn't read feminist material the same way. Heck, I didn't read evolutionary biology the same way.
The great science fiction is first and foremost "literature of ideas." This is an interesting and emotionally powerful set of ideas in a well told story. One thing I think many of the critics of this book have missed is that it'...more
The great science fiction is first and foremost "literature of ideas." This is an interesting and emotionally powerful set of ideas in a well told story. One thing I think many of the critics of this book have missed is that it'...more
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Sheri Tepper has yet to let me down. I don't read a lot of science fiction, but when I do it is most often Philip K. Dick or Tepper. Dick for his street philosopher questioning the nature of reality, psychedelic prankster approach. And Tepper's imaginative & unique, often non-linear writing with a definite, but never strident, female perspective. In the 3 books of hers I've read, "Fresco", "Family Tree", & here "The Gate to Women's Country" the protagonists are women.
In this one she tak...more
In this one she tak...more
Tepper presents a post-"convulsions" (read post-apocolypse) world, focusing on a society called Women's Country in which women have structured a world where they control and provide for all of society from walled towns while isolating the aggressive male instinct in "protective" men's garrisons. While the women, and non-aggressive males referred to as servitors, provide the necessities of life in the towns, physical conflict is left to the aggressive male soldiers in the garrisons. The soldiers'...more
I really enjoyed reading this - even as a re-read where I had an inkling of the rabbit-solution that Tepper was going to pull out of the hat. This was not helped by the fact that when I searched for the in-story play "Iphigenia at Ilium" to check whether it was in fact a real historical play, varius of the webpages talking about it should have had spoiler warnings. I tried not to look and didn't remind myself of the outcome too much - to save you, dear reader, doing the same I can reveal that no...more
I want to give this book five stars. The Gate to Women’s Country is an immensely powerful book, and I know that it won’t leave my mind for some time. This is a book to make you think, and it does that brilliantly. There are just a few things that stop me from being able to call it perfect.
The world in this book is very well thought out, and feels utterly (and terrifyingly) believable. The dynamic between men and women in this dystopia is one that I definitely buy, though I do think the book edge...more
The world in this book is very well thought out, and feels utterly (and terrifyingly) believable. The dynamic between men and women in this dystopia is one that I definitely buy, though I do think the book edge...more
The Gate to Women's Country by Sheri S. Tepper
Okay, the premise of this book was good. It is about a dystopian society where women and men live separately in a matriarchal society. Men live as warriors and women maintain "civilized society" within the gates of women's country. They are the keepers of knowledge - medical, historical, sociological, etc. The story revolves around Stavia and flashes back from her childhood to her adulthood. Interspersed in the book are parts of the Helen of Troy pla...more
Okay, the premise of this book was good. It is about a dystopian society where women and men live separately in a matriarchal society. Men live as warriors and women maintain "civilized society" within the gates of women's country. They are the keepers of knowledge - medical, historical, sociological, etc. The story revolves around Stavia and flashes back from her childhood to her adulthood. Interspersed in the book are parts of the Helen of Troy pla...more
One thing I hate about many books is that they often starts off with flying colors with amazing prose and plotting, making me think it's going to be my new favorite book. And then they usually glided, or stumbled, down into disappointments by the end of the story, when the author clearly ran out of ideas or got simply lazy.
Not with this author.
In fact, I hated the first 25 pages. The writing was too forced, too 'overwrought,' as Tepper attempted to set up the background and history of her story....more
Not with this author.
In fact, I hated the first 25 pages. The writing was too forced, too 'overwrought,' as Tepper attempted to set up the background and history of her story....more
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My brain keeps telling me that most of this was a non-fiction textbook for humanity's future. I assume that either my memory is fuzzier than expected or that said brain has edited the memory to fit in with years of being a relatively smart woman surrounded by excruciatingly dumb/mean men and being horrified at how many copies they keep spawning while all of the intelligent ones breed minimally and responsibly.
Reading this in my teens made me start paying attention to how women were treated in f...more
Reading this in my teens made me start paying attention to how women were treated in f...more
This book is a dystopian, post apocalyptic future with some interesting gender politics. It lacks the punch, I think I was expecting, but it was an interesting novel.
In this future world, the main society featured is one where there are walled women's towns, ruled by a matriarchal council, and each town has a garrison of men that live outside the walls. The two only mix twice a year, for a festival that seems to be centered around procreation for the next generation. The novel showcases the powe...more
In this future world, the main society featured is one where there are walled women's towns, ruled by a matriarchal council, and each town has a garrison of men that live outside the walls. The two only mix twice a year, for a festival that seems to be centered around procreation for the next generation. The novel showcases the powe...more
The Gloria Steinem of second-wave-inspired post-apocalyptic novels of gender separation? (making Walk to the End of the World Shulamith Firestone, perhaps, and The Shore of Women... Simone de Beauvoir? I don't know, I haven't actually read those two yet) Anyway my point is that this is the sort-of-essentialist (but maybe not?) liberal feminist version of the story, wherein men and women are fundamentally different and need to be mostly kept separate for their own good, except for those "womanish...more
Fascinating view of life after a catastrophic event. The few living people find ways to survive and build interesting cultures. The main characters live in a society where the women hold most of the knowledge and sceintific skill inside a fort while they are protected by the garrison comprised of males over 4 yrs old. Two basically seperate societies. The women feel that war and the distruction that occured was because of men so they are selectively breeding with those males that are more compas...more
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Sheri Stewart Tepper is a prolific American author of science fiction, horror and mystery novels; she is particularly known as a feminist science fiction writer, often with an ecofeminist slant.
Born near Littleton, Colorado, for most of her career (1962-1986) she worked for Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood, where she eventually became Executive Director. She has two children and is married to Gen...more
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Born near Littleton, Colorado, for most of her career (1962-1986) she worked for Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood, where she eventually became Executive Director. She has two children and is married to Gen...more
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