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God Emperor of Dune (Dune Chronicles #4)

by Frank Herbert

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4th in Dune Chronicles Series

With more than ten million copies sold, Frank Herbert's magnificent DUNE books stand among the major achievements of the imagination. Of them all, GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE, the fourth, is the greatest and the grandest. Centuries have passed on Dune itself, and the planet is green with life. Leto II, the son of Dune's savior, is still alive but

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Mass Market Paperbound, 423 pages

Published June 15th 1987 by ACE Charter (first published 1981)

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Feb 06, 2008

Dufour rated it

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It's not until the end of this book that you begin to understand Herbert's grand plan for his series. DUNE is really about shaking man out of an evolutionary cul-de-sac, showing a frustrated civil(?) society that despite its technological and social superiority is stagnating. The inventions of the Bene Gesseritt, the Guild, the Mentats, all of these are bulwarks against the decline of man that are failing. And the only one to understand this is Leto II, God Emperor of the Known Universe. In his ...more

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Jul 29, 2007

John rated it

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Recommends it for: masochists.

God Emperor of Dune is the red-headed stepchild of the series. Frank Herbert delves into the mind of a near omniscient god-creature. Many people feel disturbed or bored by this book, calling it the most "dull" of the series. From a philosophical point of view, this is probably the most advanced book in the series. Definitions of humanity and morality are contrasted in very personal ways in this book. Those familiar with Lovecraftian Cthulu mythos could well use this as a textbook ...more

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Sep 12, 2007

Tom rated it

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Reviews for this book have called it "heady" and "deep." I cannot concur more. Few books have mastered this combination of deep material with a hurtling plot, and this is one of them.

Of the Dune Chronicles so far (this is book 4), God Emperor of Dune is my clear favorite. This profoundly philosophical installment in "the bestselling sci-fi series of all time" explores the now-verdant world of Arrakis thirty-five hundred years after the events in Children...more

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Jul 25, 2008

Johnny rated it

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Please, make it stop.

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Mar 10, 2008

Dave Johnson rated it

when i first read this, i really didnt understand what Herbert said. this was such a departure from his first three books that i thought it was awful. in fact, at the time, i told a friend that i didnt like where Dune was going and that i was going to quit the series after this book. long story short, i didnt quit. and, although i didnt like the book at the time, i reread this book back in '06 and i really liked it. i guess you have to understand what leto went through for his "Golden Path"...more

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Dec 14, 2010

Kyle Holden rated it

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Shelves: scifi

A very good read. Herbert's use of dialog and overall language forces the reader not to focus on what the author is saying but what the author is leaving out. I was a little disappointed in the ending; thought it could have had more detail or substance, but overall a very enjoyable read.

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Aug 02, 2011

Anthony added it

I don't use this word lightly but it was definitely epic. It took me way too long to finish this book primarily due to all the information I was absorbing, I just had to take so many breaks from reading it. It strange how so many of of the characters seem forgettable almost halfway through the book and then all of a sudden those same characters are so enthralling. I can admit a large majority of the philosophical elements went way over my head, though I enjoyed the book just the same, I do plan ...more

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Jan 29, 2012

Derrick rated it

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Shelves: 2012, favorites, scifi

Good stuff.
After having read Brian Herbert & Kevin Anderson's prequels and sequels, the little throw away references took on a much larger import.

The Golden Path is still not spelled out for the reader. We simply have to figure out stuff while the main story unrolls. That is one thing I really enjoy about the Dune Chronicles, they are not the "Transformers" of books, but a very thoughtful and insightful look at what it means to be human.

Herbert deftly weav...more

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Jan 08, 2012

Paul Darcy rated it

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by Frank Herbert, published in 1981.

I rarely need to struggle and push myself through a science fiction novel, but on this one by Frank Herbert I had to do just that.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not as bad as all that, just very dense and philosophical - which to some is probably great reading, but to me it felt like wading through dogma and cleverness and knee-high swampwaters.

The main character, Leto II the God Emperor, is unquestionably a unique and interesting chara...moreby Frank Herbert, published in 1981.

I rarely need to struggle and push myself through a science fiction novel, but on this one by Frank Herbert I had to do just that.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not as bad as all that, just very dense and philosophical - which to some is probably great reading, but to me it felt like wading through dogma and cleverness and knee-high swampwaters.

The main character, Leto II the God Emperor, is unquestionably a unique and interesting character in the history of Science Fiction. He is a genetic cross between a great worm of Dune and a man. The novel deals mainly with this character and how he is leading humanity to survival - at least you think he is, or, like others in the novel, maybe his is just insane and needs to be removed.

Thousands of years have passed since Paul Atreides lead the Fremen to take over Dune, and incorporated into the God Emperor are all the Atreides line for the past thousands of years. He sees history through the eyes of hundreds, and knows the Golden Path, the path leading to salvation.

A really cool idea, with really cool characters, but again - tedious. It fails partly because of the omniscient narrator which has you jumping from one character’s mind to another from paragraph to paragraph - I must say I hate that kind of writing and maybe that has coloured my view of this book.

I won’t give away any details because it is in the details that Herbert excels as a novelist and his world is rich and vast and worth the trip. Just be warned, it could be long and arduous one.

Oh, I should mention this is the fourth Dune novel by Herbert and the start of his last trilogy written about Dune.

Overall I can see the vast canvas Herbert has painted and it is magnificent. I just can’t decide if this particular novel is a master-piece or a piece of something else.

You will need to read if for yourself is you want to know what happens to the God Emperor and his Golden Path - if you care to that is.

I am divided on this one - just like the God Emperor himself.(less)

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Sep 24, 2011

Andrada rated it

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God Emperor of Dune has been on my to read list for a long time mostly because I was determined to finish the series once I started it. However, I remember finding the language and concepts a bit difficult as a teenager so I could never quite bring myself to read the books one after the other and took fairly long breaks between them. I was also put off from continuing the series for so long both because of the disappointment various people expressed in the series after the third book and also th...moreGod Emperor of Dune has been on my to read list for a long time mostly because I was determined to finish the series once I started it. However, I remember finding the language and concepts a bit difficult as a teenager so I could never quite bring myself to read the books one after the other and took fairly long breaks between them. I was also put off from continuing the series for so long both because of the disappointment various people expressed in the series after the third book and also the massive time jump between Children of Dune and The God Emperor of Dune.

That being said, this fourth installment in the Dune series failed to make a very strong impression. The original trilogy left me with such a feeling of awe and excitement, but somehow God Emperor felt like a very static book in comparison. It tries and only partially succeeds in being a philosophical novel on the nature of time, history and humanity. The ecological elements seem to be forgotten and the self-righteous rants of Leto II seem nonsensical at times, with Herbert implying things through words without there actually being a real hidden meaning behind them(and the reader is invited to guess or fill in the blanks with what he/she thinks appropriate given the context). Of course the fragments of the 'stolen journals' are meant to be straight up philosophical explanations of Leto's belief system, but their basis does not always feel solid.
Perhaps it also has something to do with the fact that after three books, the reader is already familiar with the concepts behind Dune and because they are mostly expanded upon as opposed to the introduction of new ones, it can feel quite tiresome. On the other hand, it does feel like a taste of Leto's peace somehow. A long winding uneventful journey. The action is also confined to Arrakis and the outside forces, while conspiring in the background, don't make much of an appearance.
I found it rather odd, considering the rest of the characters were fairly well developed, the overlooked importance and little explanation of Malky who seemed one of the chief conspirators in the book. He seemed like an interesting character and it felt like Herbert was treating him like someone we already knew much about(or perhaps someone who he had developed in his mind quite a bit but hadn't had a chance to use properly in a book). I found myself wishing more than once that the book had been about Moneo's youth and Malky's presence at court as opposed to the aging Moneo's struggle with belief and duty.

Although looking back on the book now I've finished it, I feel there were quite a few events in it, they were not the stakes and struggles of the initial books. The danger and problems are mostly theoretical or philosophical. And the struggle was more a moral one in the central characters. It is not a terrible book, but it fails to impress the way the others did and I felt less convinced by the absolute statements of the god emperor that demanded acceptance without questioning as opposed to the milder shape of the concepts presented to readers as something to think over in previous books.

Duncan Idaho, the one constant character throughout the books and I suspect meant to ease readers into the new temporal settings by offering something familiar from the beginning of the saga, is as usual a strong relatable character. I did not care much for Siona and only sometimes sympathized with Leto. I always felt like Paul Atreides was the heart of Dune and without him the story just seems to be missing something.
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Apr 10, 2011

Jing rated it

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Nov 07, 2009

John Shumway rated it

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*Same review for the Dune Universe*
GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!

Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.
1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...

2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil ...more*Same review for the Dune Universe*
GREAT books! VERY time consuming! Worth the time!

Ok here is the deal. If your not sure about starting a series this big, here is what I would do.
1. -- Read the 1st one by Frank Herbert "Dune" if you like it...

2. -- Read the "Legends Of Dune" series. Its 3 books written by Frank's son Brian and a author I really like by the name of Keven J. Anderson. Its a prequel that is so far in the past that it doesn't spoil the Original Dune series in any way, and you could stop after that series and be done with Dune.. but if your not done....

3. -- Go and read the "Prelude To Dune" series its also 3 books and is a prequel to the original dune series but just prior so you will learn about some of the characters in the 1st book you read "Dune".

4. -- By now you have committed enough time in the series that you probably NEED to finish it. Go back and re-read Dune, (trust me you will want to) then go on and read the rest of the original Dune series (Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse Dune) Your devotion to the series will help push you through some of the parts that I think are slightly. Its worth it though!

4. -- You will notice the series ends up in the AIR! Frank Herbert died before finishing the series. The authors of the prequel series (his son Bryan Herbert and Keven J. Anderson) finished the series from compiled notes from Frank, Brian's experience talking to his father about the series and both Brian and Kevin's love of the Dune universe. It is very well done. Its two books (Hunters of Dune, and Sandworms of Dune.)

OK so sum up here is the order I would do the series. (which ends up being chronological except for the 1st book, even though it wasn't published this way.
Dune (to make sure you like it.)
Legends of Dune (series of 3 books)
Prelude to Dune (series of 3 books)
Dune (again since your restarting the original series)
The rest of the Dune series
Hunters of Dune
Sandworms of Dune

Ok have fun.(less)

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Jun 03, 2011

Scott Taylor rated it

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Just the usual everyday story of man becomes worm, worm rules world, worm meets girl, worm gets betrayed by girl's secret lover. Been there done that! Ok not really, but this is my third reading of the book.

It does hold up. The various conversations between the God-Emperor and his subjects were entertaining, as were the excerpts from his 'Stolen Journals.' The path you see the characters tread, as they slowly turn on their master and his tightly controlled world was well mapped...more

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Dec 09, 2010

Quizzle Amarel rated it

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Shelves: science-fiction, philosophy

Of all of Frank Herbert's novel. I thinks this one is a bit stark. Kind of monotony. However, due to Leto Jr. Immortality, i think all is understandable. U can know few worldview here, one of the most prominent is the existence of the Fish Speakers. Logical, but there's no firm lead in the real word. Perhaps viewable in the future. If only there's a book that take it quite deep, on the spearhead the females' matrimony. Would be interesting.

Well, back to the book. The book is more of ...more

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Dec 03, 2007

Melee Farr rated it

I just finished this one and liked it almost as much as the first, which is really saying something. I have to say that Leto disgusted me at first ... gave me the willies just reading about him, kind of like squishing a snail, but by the end of the book, I felt dreadfully sorry for him, and had a reluctant respect for the lonely choices he made. I'd certainly have never made those sacrifices. I have a pile of quotes from the wise Mr. Herbert to add here ....

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Feb 16, 2011

Kevin rated it

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Since the last hundred or so pages of Children of Dune, I have slowly seen decline in the plot of the Dune series. Or at least, from the end of Children of Dune throughout God Emperor of Dune. There was something quite over the top about Leto II's slow transformation into a sandworm and his eventual three and half thousand year reign over the Universe - as a sandworm/human hybrid. I think I found it hard to visualise the being he slowly transformed himself into - although the plot of God Emperor...more

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Feb 07, 2011

♥ Cheshire Catt ♠ rated it

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Okay well - I can understand why people hate this book. I can understand why people love it. It is definitely the most philosophical of this series (so far) - yet I didn't want a bunch of philosophy I still wanted my scheming, action, adventure, plans within plans - that was there yet not really there.

So we now jump 3500 years in this book and we have Leto II who is now way into his transformation as the God Worm. Eventually he will just be sandtrout and worm - but right now he ...moreOkay well - I can understand why people hate this book. I can understand why people love it. It is definitely the most philosophical of this series (so far) - yet I didn't want a bunch of philosophy I still wanted my scheming, action, adventure, plans within plans - that was there yet not really there.

So we now jump 3500 years in this book and we have Leto II who is now way into his transformation as the God Worm. Eventually he will just be sandtrout and worm - but right now he is a creepy hybrid that reminded me a little bit of Jaba the Hut...

Okay so when he was younger he and his twin saw (I think) the destruction of mankind by machines (maybe like what the Butlerian Jihad tried to stop?) so he did this weird mating thing with the sandtrout and made himself into this creature that can live (not forever) but for a very long ass time. And he enforced his Golden Path (Lord am I sick of hearing about it) and Leto's peace. Which is really just stagnation I would say. And he goes off on tangents talking about everything under the sun all philosophical like which some people may like (but just annoyed me).

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Well anyway - why the three? For me, it wasn't bad and it wasn't good - it was okay. This will be one that I would not want to reread.
Things That Upset Mama
**WTF did you get rid of all the major/minor houses - boring...
**And the Mentats - did I mention that I really, really like my Mentats - and you got rid of them too?
**Even the Fremen suck now
**Dammit Duncan!? Again!!! Why the hell do you like that character so damn much?
**The Guild - crippled by the damn God Worm
**The Bene Gesserit - also crippled and damn near dead because of Leto
**The Bene Tleilax - we are told they are evil bastards (well hell we know they are evil bastards) but somehow they just never do anything really good and evil - they act more like the three stooges with a cloning device

Okay I better stop now or I'm going to drop it another star....(less)

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Aug 15, 2009

Ashley rated it

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Nov 17, 2011

Христо Блажев rated it

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“Дюн” на Франк Хърбърт – може би най-противоречивата фантастично-мистична сага
http://www.knigolandia.info/2011/07/blog...

Месец след месец след месец… Ревюто за многологията “Дюн” на Франк Хърбърт си отлежаваше и малко по малко се насочваше към никоганаписване – така и не можах да сбера в главата си едно ясно и просто мнение за трите тома. Но книжноблогърският дълг зове и ето ме пишещ най-сетне за една от най-мащабните поредици в класическата фантастика… и най-противоречивата с...more

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Aug 07, 2011

Harry Robinson rated it

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This book continues the Dune saga. Like most sequels, it lacked much of the intense vitality of the first work in the series. It tells a part of the story of the no-longer-human Leto Atreides, Emperor of the galaxy for thousands of years.

This book differed from most of the others in the series. It was overburdened with subtle hints and portents; much of the dialog was overly complex and did not contribute to the plot line; it possibly added somewhat to the theme. I found it difficu...more

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Sep 02, 2009

Daniel rated it

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This installment of the Dune series was a complete departure from the previous ones. I didn't like it, but I assume it was a necessary prerequisite to the next. God Emperor of Dune is filled with the cryptic sayings of Leto Atreides II. Whether in excerpts from his journals appearing at the start of each chapter or in his thoughts and dialogue, Lord Leto is a never-ending faucet of words without clear meaning. A reader might think his purpose is to teach, but none of the other characters ever se...more

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Aug 29, 2011

Jimmy rated it

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Recommends it for: Dune Fans & Science Fiction Fans

Shelves: audiobooks-itunes, science-fiction

Here is Leto II’s tyrannical enforced peace across the universe, 3,500 years after ‘Children of Dune’. The God Emperor’s (Leto II, the “pre-worm”) boredom is a side effect of his peace. It’s his plan for humanity to become stagnate for all of this time in the universe. This is his Golden Path, and it’ll ensure the continuing of the human race.
Another price of his peace is the only ones with any sort of power remaining are the Bene Gesserit, the Spacing Guild, and the Ixians. The grea...moreHere is Leto II’s tyrannical enforced peace across the universe, 3,500 years after ‘Children of Dune’. The God Emperor’s (Leto II, the “pre-worm”) boredom is a side effect of his peace. It’s his plan for humanity to become stagnate for all of this time in the universe. This is his Golden Path, and it’ll ensure the continuing of the human race.
Another price of his peace is the only ones with any sort of power remaining are the Bene Gesserit, the Spacing Guild, and the Ixians. The great worms of Rakis, (once known as Arrakis and commonly called Dune), are no more. In addition to the rumored secret of Leto’s massive hidden stockpile of spice, the God Emperor distributes each and every particle of spice to these three according to his discretion, mostly as a reward or as a punishment. Leto seems to be allowing the varying and failing assassination attempts of the combined efforts of the Bene Gesserit, Spacing Guild, and the Tleilaxu, because it interests him. It’s an entertaining release from the mundane.
Leto is the entirety of the Atreides. At his will, he can speak with the voice and memories of any of his genetic line, male and female. Paul's fondness for the original is the reasons that Leto has the Tleilaxu provide him with Duncan Idaho gholas. There have been so many throughout the millennia that he sees them as a thing more than a person. The pre-worm Leto calls them “the Duncan” or “my Duncan”. However, the Duncan Idaho is treasured because has meticulously included him in his breeding program, which he took away from the Bene Gesserit.
As the Ixians have developed the no-room technology to hide from prescience, so has Leto bred this into Siona, which began with the marriage of his twin sister Ghanima and Farad’n Corrino. As the leader of the resistance against the worm and a friend to Nayla, who worships the God Emperor without Siona’s knowledge, she is ready to soon undergo the test Leto has planned.
As a “pre-worm” Leto is vulnerable to water, and his death will bring the great worms back to Dune, but with a pearl of himself in each one. It’ll take the combined skills, talent, planning, and timing, along with the too perfect Hwi, the Ixian ambassador, Leto’s human emotions, and the Duncan’s loyalty to old Atreides honor and his own moral code, to bring the God Emperor pre-worm Leto II’s death, which even he hides from his own prescience.(less)

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Jun 26, 2011

Daniel Goldberg rated it

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Recommends it for: People who like Sci Fi

It took me a while to get through the first three books of Dune, and that would be a natural stopping point if I wanted to quit the series, but I decided to continue on. This is the fourth book of a six book series. It starts off like 3500 years after the last book, and the main character from the past book (who was a human) is turning himself into some immortal sand worm or something like that. So...yeah. I didn't really like that turn in direction for the series. The book ends pretty captivati...more

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Aug 30, 2011

Sheri rated it

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Select humans have been worshipped as gods through the ages -- think Haile Selassie, Cleopatra, Hirohito, the royals of Europe (e.g.,Henry VIII). In this, the 4th book in the Dune series, Frank Herbert creates the second of his human "gods." The first, Paul Atreides, rejected his divinity in books 2 and 3. The second deity, Leto II, is Paul's son. By the time this book starts, Leto has used his divinity to rule the known universe for approximately 3500 years, and things may be abou...more

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May 25, 2007

Coy rated it

Recommends it for: Intense Sci-Fi fans

Hmm, this book was quite boring in most parts and the ending was very, very strange. I used this book to put me to sleep for about two months. Its not the worst book I've ever read, but its close and I'm a sci-fi fan.

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Feb 13, 2007

David Striepe rated it

This has one or two really cool parts but overall just felt kind of fragmented. It felt to me like there wasn't as strong an idea of what this book was meant to be before it was written. I'm probably wrong about that.

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Dec 23, 2008

Michelle rated it

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I LOVE THIS BOOK!!! Leto is my absolute favorite character of the series ! Without giving it away, Leto has acquired a half-humanoid half-sandworm form and the book begins over 3,000 years after Children of Dune, with Leto ruling the entire "known" universe. Leto has acquired tremendous God-like power through the course of his metamorphosis from human to worm. Despite such incredible prescient powers, Leto suffers from some of the same foibles as all humans do, (loneliness, boredom) pe...more

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Oct 01, 2011

Ruth rated it

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c1981. Having discovered when transferring books to Goodreads that I couldn't remember reading this one at all, I decided to refresh my memory. Well, I think I have been away from the Dune world for far too long. I just found the story weird and I know that has mostly to do with the 30 years since it had been published. The style of writing and the characterisation is still excellent and Wikipedia has a good synopsis and style review.. The pace is good but I just could not settle knowing that th...more

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Jul 28, 2011

Daragh added it · review of another edition

While not as good as the first three (as much as it is so far removed from those iconic times and the characters you came to admire), this is word-heavy and wonderful for that alone if for no other reason. Still can't figure out why Nayla has an inexplicable orgasm while Duncan climbs the Sareer wall or why he knows Siona is determined to destroy him but still places the ferocious Nayla under her command with strict orders to do whatever Siona commands, including killing the God Emperor. Perhaps...more

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Aug 19, 2009

Marita rated it

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Frank Herbert changed styles form a narrative to conversations on this book. I found it choppier and harder to follow even though I have to say I LOVED reading this book. This book is full of very strong females and Herbert keeps one quessing what each one is really up to. I love the thought of what one must have experianced if one lived 3500 yrs. Would that alone not seem godlike!?. I was quite distressed what Duncan and Siona end up doing to Leto. WHY? Just because he was ugly? Or because they...more

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