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Preview — If There Be Thorns by V.C. Andrews
If There Be Thorns (Dollanganger #3)
Then the lights came on in the house next door. Soon the Old Lady in Black was there, watching them, guarded by her strange old butler. Soon she had Bart over for cookies and ice cream and asked him to call her "Gr...more
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“If we could survive the worst, doesn’t it stand to reason we should be able to bear the best?”
Of course there's tragedy with this series, but there's also something bizarrely beautiful. It's a mesmerizing series, not perfect but hard to get out of once you dig in. It would be a shame to just read Flowers In The Attic and not continue the series - even if the original was the best, the sequels feed into each other, making the story richer.
I went back and forth between 3 and 4 stars. So ...more
My main problem with the book is not so much the storyline, but the fact that the story is told from the perspectives of fourteen-year-old Jory (Cathy's son with Julian) and nine year-old Bart (Cathy's son with Bart Winslow). While it's easy to sympathize with Jory - - his confusion over finding out his parents' true identities and the true character of his biological father ...more
It explored the subject of childhood sociopathy, and has an overall darker tone than the previous ...more
The other theme of this novel is how family secrets will surface no matter to what lengths people go to hide ...more
I don’t remember my mother ever having a problem with me reading these books, in fact, I’m sure she must have purchased them for me. As long as I was reading, she was fine with it. I don’t however remember them being quite as scandalous ...more
Having said that, the book is not too bad. It focuses now on Cathy's children, Jory and Bart, from t ...more
This book was nowhere near as consuming as the first two. The writing is about the same - bad, but at least not abysmal, and is easy to read. But none of the characters were compelling; I tried and tried to like Bart, since he's the only character that ha ...more
“Tiene que haber oscuridad para que se haga la luz”.
Ok, no sé por qué estos libros me dan siempre ganas de llorar. Te dejan con ganas de leer el próximo.
Bart me tenía en desespero, sin duda ese niño hará más de las suyas...
What I do recall is that even back then I did get annoyed sometimes by the writing so this is not a book I want to re read.
By he way I am disgusted by her family That they were so d ...more
Sinceramente no sé como sentirme con respecto al libro.
Es oscuro de una manera diferente a los otros dos.
La familia francamente esta enferma.
Mi único rayito de luz es Jory.
Cathy yo siempre te voy a apoyar con Chris.
BART... Bueno.... maldito niño, ojalá te mueras
Un libro que me gustó muchísimo.
Comienza con muy buenas descripciones, además de una ingeniosa trama que nace de las pocas cosas que quedaron sin resolver en el libro anterior. Los nuevos personajes, Bart y Jory ((view spoiler)[Hijos de Cathy (hide spoiler)]) me parecieron muy bien construidos. Otras cosas destacables son lo ágil de la narración y que, desde un comienzo, sentí que el libro tenía la misma esencia que "Flores En El Ático".
En el desarrollo pude apreciar mucho más lo atrapante qu ...more
This is the only V.C. Andrews book written from a boy's point of view. As in Petals on the Wind, I was not fond of Cathy. She seems completely ignorant of Bart's life...she doesn't try hard enough to reach out to him. Also mad because she impregnated herself with two different men's children witho ...more
This time around Cathy is not our narrator, thank you Jaysus! Honestly, I cannot stand Cathy, she’s just all around terrible and any goodwill or sympathy she gained in Flowers in the Attic was shredded by Petals on the Wind. This story is her sons Jory (I can’t with that name) and Bart’s to tell.
Jory (ugh, that name) and Bart (another ugh) are polar opposites. Bart is jealous of Jory and feels ...more
(view spoiler)[At the end of Petals on the Wind, Cathy was struggling with 2 small children and a dying (second) husband. Paul's dying wish was that she give in to Chris and allow him to provide for her as a husband would. So SHE DOES!
If There Be Thorns starts up 9 years later, with Chris and Cathy living as husband and wife (ew) in Northern California. For some reason, I keep wanting to say they live in New Mexico, even though I know that isn't right. ...more
I kind of liked that one of the kids was, like, just flippin' crazy, because if you don't think this kind of effed-up family dynamic trickles down to your kids, then you're pretty much just a selfish moron. (See Catherine and Chris.) Unfortunately, Ms. Andrews really seemed to believe she had a handle on the voice of a ten-year-old. She didn't, making this one darn nigh unreadable.
Which is too bad, ...more
"...the dialogue is clunky and unrealistic, and I can't imagine a world where people cry out the (sometimes lengthy) speeches these characters are saddled with. And there is much overuse of exclamation points..."
So I'm pleased to report that neither of those problems assailed me while reading IF THERE BE THORNS. The one page prologue is narrated by Cathy, wherein she tells us this is her sons' stories. After ...more
If there Be Thorns by Virgina Andrews is the third book in the Dollanganger series. This book differs from the first two, as it is from Cathy's two sons Jory and Bart's perspectives. It centres around the summer where everything changed-an old lady, dressed all in black moves into the mansion next door to Cathy and her family, and insists on Cathy's children to call her grandmother.
I really liked t ...more
Virginia Cleo Andrews (born Cleo Virginia Andrews) was born June 6, 1923 in Portsmouth, Virginia. The youngest child and the only daughter of William Henry Andrews, a career navy man ...more