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All Things Shining: Reading the Western Classics to Find Meaning in a Secular Age
In unrelenting flow of choices confronts us at nearly every moment of our lives, and yet our culture offers us no clear way to choose. This predicament seems inevitable, but in fact it's quite new. In medieval Europe, God's calling was a grounding force. In ancient Greece, a whole pantheon of shining gods stood ready to draw an appropriate action out of you. Like an athlet...more
ebook, 272 pages
Published
January 4th 2011
by Free Press
(first published December 22nd 2010)
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Aug 01, 2012
Cheryl
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How do you find meaning and purpose for your life in the secular age? What is a meaningful pursuit when the choices in the contemporary age are prolific yet seemingly equal in value? How do you know your life has meaning without the clarity of religion's dictates? And what do the great books of former epochs teach us about how to find the sacred in contemporary culture?
These are the questions asked by the authors of ALL THINGS SHINING: Reading the Western Classics to Find Meaning in a Secular Ag...more
These are the questions asked by the authors of ALL THINGS SHINING: Reading the Western Classics to Find Meaning in a Secular Ag...more
Based on the subtitle, I was expecting the book to be about replacing religious practice with humanistic ones. That is, when one becomes secularized and religions' dictates can no longer provide meaning for your life, here is how one can turn to the Western Classics for fulfillment. Instead, it was a whirlwind survey of cherry-picked works from the Western Canon, how each addresses the problem of nihilism, and a plea to revive a polytheistic approach to assigning meaning to life.
Unfortunately, t...more
Unfortunately, t...more
I very much enjoyed the literary criticism parts of this book, but was less enchanted with the final "self-help" chapters. (But then, I wasn't looking for a self-help sort of book...) The authors are philosophy professors and the book is at its best when they relate ideas of philosophers to their chosen literary texts. The western classics explored at length are Homer's "Iliad" and "Odyssey", works of Aeschylus, Dante's "Divine Comedy" and Melville's "Moby Dick". I only read Homer fairly recentl...more
The highest praise that I can give this book is that it makes me want to reread the classics, particularly Homer's ILIAD and ODYSSEY and MOBY DICK, the latter of which the authors regard as crucial in understanding what 21st century western humanity believes in, or doesn't. As well, it makes me want to read, for the first time, the contemporary writings of David Foster Wallace which are at the heart of our existential questioning.
At just over 200 pages this is a short book but packed with provo...more
At just over 200 pages this is a short book but packed with provo...more
The best things about this book are the analyses of Infinite Jest and Moby Dick. (which are probably a rehash of earlier ones) The rest of it is a half baked idea that appealing to our classical polytheistic roots is the way to live a meaningful life in the modern world. Of course they don't literally mean the worship of gods, but more abstractly to follow our instincts and "give in" to our core being as personified by the likes of Aphrodite, Ares and Athena. Ok, this is ridiculous and the autho...more
By Charles Berret
For The Literary Review
Volume 54 "Emo, Meet Hole"
I first encountered Hubert Dreyfus, one of the authors of All Things Shining, as a
college student trying to figure out, in the words of David Foster Wallace, “what it
means to be a fucking human being.” Dreyfus has a reputation as the best living
interpreter of the philosopher Martin Heidegger, so I read Dreyfus while attempting to break through the fortified prose of Being and Time. Consequently, I found
Dreyfus’s new project, A...more
For The Literary Review
Volume 54 "Emo, Meet Hole"
I first encountered Hubert Dreyfus, one of the authors of All Things Shining, as a
college student trying to figure out, in the words of David Foster Wallace, “what it
means to be a fucking human being.” Dreyfus has a reputation as the best living
interpreter of the philosopher Martin Heidegger, so I read Dreyfus while attempting to break through the fortified prose of Being and Time. Consequently, I found
Dreyfus’s new project, A...more
I rate this book a 3.5 out of 5, because I think it had a lot of good thoughts, but couldn't hold my attention very well at certain parts. It also would have been easier to read if I had been a literature major in college or enjoyed philosophy a bit more.
That said there are definite gems in this book. Homer/Athenian time-frame thinking are nice and totally took me off-guard. The medieval devotion to god and the way people drift based on autonomy was also really interesting. He had interesting cr...more
That said there are definite gems in this book. Homer/Athenian time-frame thinking are nice and totally took me off-guard. The medieval devotion to god and the way people drift based on autonomy was also really interesting. He had interesting cr...more
A full response to this book would require a doctoral thesis. Below are some brief thoughts about what I understood were the books claims and why I agreed or disagreed.
This is a complex discussion of some philosophical problems of our age, which considers aspects of philosophies discovered in the cultural or religious traditions of Western history. Many of the philosophical concerns are valid, as are many of the historical philosophies they look to for insight, but the authors formulate the cont...more
This is a complex discussion of some philosophical problems of our age, which considers aspects of philosophies discovered in the cultural or religious traditions of Western history. Many of the philosophical concerns are valid, as are many of the historical philosophies they look to for insight, but the authors formulate the cont...more
Every now and then I read a book which makes me wish I were a lot smarter and well-read than I really am. Now, as a librarian, you would probably expect me to have read quite a bit, and I have, but books like this one make me realize how much more there is (even though I already have forty-nine books checked out of my current library). In this work, two philosophers come together to examine what they deem “western classics” and examine their connection with the way our world is today. For those...more
All Things Shining is an exploration of existential philosophy applied to a criticism of wallace, Nietzsche, Homer and Moby Dick, among other things. The goal of the book is essentially something like a re-enchantment in the wake of modernity brought about by Descartes and Kant in their emphasis on individual autonomy. All that autonomy landed us with Nietzsche and later wallace, both nihilists insisting that we must make our own meanings. The authors see an alternative in the writings of Melvil...more
Grabbed this on a whim at a cozy independent bookstore in DC over the break. Started reading it over a pint of porter.
The in-depth discussion of David Foster Wallace's suicidal nihilism was pretty interesting, as were some of the bits about Homer. The chapter on Melville was oustanding. Otherwise, it was a mish-mash of woo-infected academic BS trying to pass itself off as "secular." Now I just want to read Moby Dick again.
To grapple with some serious, secular, useful ideas about human life and m...more
The in-depth discussion of David Foster Wallace's suicidal nihilism was pretty interesting, as were some of the bits about Homer. The chapter on Melville was oustanding. Otherwise, it was a mish-mash of woo-infected academic BS trying to pass itself off as "secular." Now I just want to read Moby Dick again.
To grapple with some serious, secular, useful ideas about human life and m...more
I agree with many of the comments of previous reviewers. The book builds up to the final chapter: Lives Worth Living in a Secular Age but then it falls short. Although I agree with the premise that it is not necessary to follow a monotheistic religion or develop a set of prescriptions about how to act, I think that the authors never really explain what it would mean to be more receptive in today's world.
For them, it has been all downhill since approximately 700 B.C when Homer wrote the Odyssey a...more
For them, it has been all downhill since approximately 700 B.C when Homer wrote the Odyssey a...more
ALL THINGS SHINING is an ambitious book, it aims at helping us to find meaning in our lives by way of a philosophically informed reading of some of the great classics of the Western Canon. It seeks to address a popular audience rather than a professional one: it has its roots in Heideggerian philosophy but the style is not that of academic prose and it uses examples taken from news items, the practice of sport, and readily available literary classics such as THE ODYSSEY, THE DIVINE COMEDY, and M...more
Despite the authors' pedigrees, I was hesitant to pick this up because the "Finding Meaning in a Secular Age" subtitle suggested some sort of self-help book. Then I found it for $4 at one of the Borders Bookstores that was liquidating and snatched it up!
Thankfully, All Things Shining has a historical/lit-crit focus, and turned out to be a fascinating course on how Western culture has changed their value of meaning [meaning of value? :-P ] over time, as seen through some important works of liter...more
Thankfully, All Things Shining has a historical/lit-crit focus, and turned out to be a fascinating course on how Western culture has changed their value of meaning [meaning of value? :-P ] over time, as seen through some important works of liter...more
THE GUIDING THEME of the book can be stated in a series of questions.
First, what understanding of being human has shaped the various epochs in the history of the West?
Second, how did these accounts of human being, and of the sacred, keep the problem of nihilism at bay?
Third is there anything in these self-understandings from our history that we can use to combat the nihilism of our secular age?
I don't think the authors really drew any real conclusions in this book that made much sense to me. The...more
First, what understanding of being human has shaped the various epochs in the history of the West?
Second, how did these accounts of human being, and of the sacred, keep the problem of nihilism at bay?
Third is there anything in these self-understandings from our history that we can use to combat the nihilism of our secular age?
I don't think the authors really drew any real conclusions in this book that made much sense to me. The...more
It was the title that attracted me: All Things Shining: Reading the Western Classics to Find Meaning in a Secular Age. I felt that the authors were making two assumptions outright: 1) that we dwell in a fallen age devoid of the intensely passionate lives that our ancestors enjoyed and 2) that great books can cure this.
Sure enough, the authors suppose that the overarching zeigeist of our time is nihilism, marked by a loneliness and alienation familiar to us all. They also take for granted that t...more
Sure enough, the authors suppose that the overarching zeigeist of our time is nihilism, marked by a loneliness and alienation familiar to us all. They also take for granted that t...more
This is one of the first philosophy books I've read in a long time. The authors try to communicate this idea that an element of the spiritual and mystical nature of life has been lost within the secular climate of our modern world. They draw upon the ancient and classic literature (primarily Greek legends and Melville's Moby Dick) to illustrate different aspects of modern society and the progression away from a polytheistic past. Their claim is that part of the dynamic range of human experience...more
About halfway through you start to suspect that these guys have no idea what conclusion they are building toward. There is some fairly incisive literary criticism - the chapter on Moby Dick, in particular, was eye-opening. The whole premise fails, though, when the seemingly mind-blowing advice on how to live a meaningful life in a post-God world that they've been hinting at all along turns out to be nothing more than a few snippets of Greek myth, a dollop of unacknowledged lifts from Canetti's t...more
Interesting Book. Dreyfus and Kelly take on a huge burden by attempting to explain the collapse of the Western Paradigm in 226 pages. They describe the gradual encroachment of Nihlism upon Western intellectual life and propose a tenative solution. The authors discuss a variety of authors, philosophers and theologians, including: David Foster Wallace, Homer, Aeschylus, Dante, Luther, Kant, and ultimately Melville. As a civilization, many of us seem to have racionated God out of our lives and ente...more
Dreyfus and Kelly offer a brilliant couple of opening chapters, and fascinating treatments of Dante and Melville. The discussion of Homer's sacral world as a framework for meaning in our time, however, fails to inspire. In the middle of the book, the treatment of Jesus is seriously flawed. It is ironic that the authors use the Gospel of John to suggest that Jesus was merely one of the "shining things" that helps see how we can find moments of meaning in our existential morass. More incomprehensi...more
I think I need to read this again, alongside Charles Taylor's A Secular Age and Michael Gillespie's Theological Origins of Modernity. A proper review will come in time, but for now I'm basking in a certain amount of mindblow. Right now, though, this is a book I would call more "useful" than properly informative about the pursuit of meaning in the modern world.
The claim for the last chapter seemed to stress that the tools for meaning must be historically based in order to be comprehensible, that...more
The claim for the last chapter seemed to stress that the tools for meaning must be historically based in order to be comprehensible, that...more
I'll give it three stars, but I'm not sure I "liked" it.
This is a very odd book. Written by high-level academic philosophers, it is written as a popular book and embraces a form of polytheistic values to address our current nihilism. I read the book because it received so much coverage, especially in the NYTimes, when it came out.
What I did like, in particular, were the sections on Homer, Aeschylus, and Melville. The authors interpret Moby Dick as having a singular place in Western history: "th...more
This is a very odd book. Written by high-level academic philosophers, it is written as a popular book and embraces a form of polytheistic values to address our current nihilism. I read the book because it received so much coverage, especially in the NYTimes, when it came out.
What I did like, in particular, were the sections on Homer, Aeschylus, and Melville. The authors interpret Moby Dick as having a singular place in Western history: "th...more
This fascinating book traces Western civilization's journey from a world that was open to the experience of the sacred and meaningful to a world where meaning has come to be something entirely up to the individual to create. It begins with the Homeric Greeks, and takes us to David Foster Wallace (my favorite) as the best contemporary example of the dilemma this position (most clearly described first by Friedrich Nietzsche) creates for us. On the journey between this beginning and end, they take...more
This book was interesting, although I was not sure I liked it until I got all the way through it. It came to my attention in a joint review with "Examined Lives" about books that look at ethics and morality through the point of view of the classics. The intended punch line seemed to be a reaffirmation of the liberal arts perspective and the generalist approach to dealing with the big questions of life. There was an early chapter on David Foster Wallace that really whetted my appetite. But then i...more
May 27, 2011
Charles
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
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In their book, All Things Shining (ATS), by Hubert Dreyfus and Sean Dorrance Kelly, the authors portray the post modern era as a period where metaphysics engenders an existential nihilism. The book (ATS) is their effort to provide a window or a small crack through which we might escape the nihilistic metaphysics that dominates our age. For literature of this post modern phenomena they use David Foster Wallace's, Infinite Je...more
In their book, All Things Shining (ATS), by Hubert Dreyfus and Sean Dorrance Kelly, the authors portray the post modern era as a period where metaphysics engenders an existential nihilism. The book (ATS) is their effort to provide a window or a small crack through which we might escape the nihilistic metaphysics that dominates our age. For literature of this post modern phenomena they use David Foster Wallace's, Infinite Je...more
Apr 15, 2012
Mary Fisher
is currently reading it
Just beginning this book...find the persons who wrote the inside blurb an interesting mix. But as I read I cannot help but wonder if it is going to be a reflection of idealism or will there be a metaphysic to give some substance...or as a friend once stated to me on the banks of the Thames outside Colin Gunton's office..." do you think the ontic just collapses into the noetic?????
I walked away thinking...where's a dictionary? But as I start reading this book his words came back...is this going t...more
I walked away thinking...where's a dictionary? But as I start reading this book his words came back...is this going t...more
As a former book publisher, I know the severe limits of book review space in major newspapers. So when the New York Times publishes an op-ed piece and two reviews about a new book within 24 days (December 30, January 3, and January 20), one is forced to stand up and take notice. And when that book is a work of pop philosophy, which by January 30 had reached only a lowly 25th on the NYT Nonfiction Bestseller List, one must extend one's hand and scratch one's head. One must also ask, Who's paying...more
I have very mixed feelings about this book. It is written in a very engaging style. It analyzes great works of literature and compares them to the modern mind-set,even tying in popular culture which I really enjoyed. I enjoyed reading it. The authors raise interesting questions. However, I found too many of their conclusions to be just plain wrong to say this is a great book. They seem to start with a hypothesis and then fit the facts to prove them. They tweak the truth so that it fits their ana...more
This is a thought provoking book. The theme seems to be there are other routes to spiritual satisfaction than traditional religion. In this there is nothing new. Literary criticism and anthropology have pointed this out as long as they have been around. One need but look to Wallace Stevens's "The Necessary Angel" or Wade Davis's "The Wayfarers" to find better examples than those cited by the authors. "All Things Shining" has "The Iliad" as an example of a western classic offering spiritual insig...more
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