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The Mote in God's Eye (Moties #1)
In 3016, the 2nd Empire of Man spans hundreds of star systems, thanks to the faster-than-light Alderson Drive. No other intelligent beings have ever been encountered, not until a lightsail probe enters a human system carrying a dead alien. The probe is traced to the Mote, an isolated star in a thick dust cloud, & an expedition is dispatched. In the Mote the humans find...more
ebook, 560 pages
Published
January 10th 1993
(first published 1974)
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I wanted to like The Mote In God's Eye--not only did it come highly recommended by both the denizens of metafilter and my good friend Karin, but it also centers on first contact with an alien race, one of my favorite themes in science fiction. Niven and Pournelle handle the species-building well--the Moties are strongly developed, emotionally believable, and consistent in their motivations. But everything else in this novel--not the least the human characters--felt extraneous and poorly develope...more
May 22, 2008
Annago
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
fans of hard sci-fi; this is NOT for thrill-seekers
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I caught my friend Ryan reading some cheesy looking sci-fi and thought maybe I should give the genre a try. Outside of HG Wells, I haven't had much exposure since I was a teenager. This story is well written, but ungodly slow. Hell, I have the patience to read, but this one is mostly discussion and very little action. The story hits a climax two-thirds of the way through and then runs out of steam. I give it three stars for being thought provoking.
Ok, I am saying up front: I'm the author of
Outies
. Yes, I wrote it. I have to put some number of stars on it. or I can't tell you about it. If I only put one, I'd be lying, and anyway you wouldn't see this.
This is a sequel to The Mote in God's Eye and The Gripping Hand, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, and I wrote it on a bet. As in:
"I bet you can't!"
"Bet I can!"
"Can Not!"
"Can TOO!"
"Can't!"
"Can!"
If this sounds like childish sibling rivalry, well, I couldn't possible comment.
It's an...more
This is a sequel to The Mote in God's Eye and The Gripping Hand, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, and I wrote it on a bet. As in:
"I bet you can't!"
"Bet I can!"
"Can Not!"
"Can TOO!"
"Can't!"
"Can!"
If this sounds like childish sibling rivalry, well, I couldn't possible comment.
It's an...more
Fairly interesting contact novel. A yellow star in front of a red giant star in the Coal Sack Nebula resembles a hooded man with one eye, the star being the "mote" and the resemblance to a hooded head suggests God , thus the name.
The race of beings from this system, the "Moties" represent a kind of threat humans haven't faced before.
I read this some time (read years) ago and still remember the idea striking me as a mixture of original bits that turn an idea that has been touched on before into...more
The race of beings from this system, the "Moties" represent a kind of threat humans haven't faced before.
I read this some time (read years) ago and still remember the idea striking me as a mixture of original bits that turn an idea that has been touched on before into...more
Jul 09, 2008
Jake
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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Like so many books I’ve read, The Mote in G-d’s Eye was recommended to me by father, many years ago. And, like many books I’ve read, it’s actually taken me years to read it. I don’t really know why; I know I tried to read it once when I was younger, and it somehow didn’t grab me. Maybe I wasn’t ready for it, or maybe I just wasn’t in the right mood. In any case, I’ve been on more of a sci-fi kick lately, and Starladustess had equally good things to say about this one, so I finally knuckled under...more
Written in 1972, The Mote in God’s Eye is the premier work by award winning authors Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, who also collaborated on the science fiction classics Footfall and Lucifer’s Hammer. Grand Master Robert A. Heinlein called it "possibly the finest science fiction novel I have ever read." It easily makes my Top 10 Sci/Fi Book List.
The story is set in the year 3017 A.D. The Second Interstellar Empire of man is in the process of forcefully reuniting many colonies long lost since th...more
The story is set in the year 3017 A.D. The Second Interstellar Empire of man is in the process of forcefully reuniting many colonies long lost since th...more
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle wrote a number of science fiction novels which I fondly remember. The Legacy of Heorot tells the story of colonization and the perils of misunderstanding xenobiology. Footfall is an exciting update on the War of the Worlds. Lucifer's Hammer concerns the collapse of society in the face of a comet impact on Earth. My major issue with Lucifer's Hammer, bloat, is a much bigger issue in highly regarded Mote in God's Eye.
The bloat issue is gigantic here. The first 150 p...more
The bloat issue is gigantic here. The first 150 p...more
This was a fun, old-school first contact story. It's got a good, interesting plot, with interesting aliens and problems. Good use of both mystery and literary irony. I especially like the ambiguous way it ended.
The characterization didn't fully work for me -- there were several characters that I never managed to differentiate. This might be an artifact of having read the audiobook version (which sounds like it's read by Zapp Brannigan, which is hilarious).
The characterization didn't fully work for me -- there were several characters that I never managed to differentiate. This might be an artifact of having read the audiobook version (which sounds like it's read by Zapp Brannigan, which is hilarious).
Jan 09, 2011
James
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Fans of SF, military fiction, and the differences between cultures
A brilliant and gripping book. One of the best jobs of creating a truly alien life form, culture and civilization, rather than the usual "aliens" who act just like human beings who happen to look different - and then going on to let the human reader see events through those alien eyes, from their perspective. The human characters are also well developed and the plot serves as a gripping mystery as well as an adventure story, and left me with a strong sense of empathy for the individuals of both...more
Deep-future science fiction the way Tom Clancy would write it.
Utterly plausible and believable, a vision of first contact that demolishes the happy-go-lucky optimistic mentality, pointing out the very real hazards and dangers inherent in such a venture...even assuming no harmful intent on the part of the "other". Just in their nature to eventually overpopulate every space they enter.
Their description of first physical contact still gives me goosebumps, the human pilot strips naked and the aliens...more
Utterly plausible and believable, a vision of first contact that demolishes the happy-go-lucky optimistic mentality, pointing out the very real hazards and dangers inherent in such a venture...even assuming no harmful intent on the part of the "other". Just in their nature to eventually overpopulate every space they enter.
Their description of first physical contact still gives me goosebumps, the human pilot strips naked and the aliens...more
(Sffaudio is recording a discussion of this book on 10/1 with Julie.)
Got the audio. Hey, this could be exciting. :)
13% - Sounds more 'vintage' and cool through the iPhone speaker. Very Star Trek, even with Scottish and Russian crewmen. But what is the fascination with royalty in sff?
18% - Wow there's a lot of characters. Moties kind of sound like Immotiles (Peter Hamilton - Pandora's Star). Hmm.
list of characters
http://www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Niven...
Commander Jock (Sandy) Sinclair - Scottish e...more
Got the audio. Hey, this could be exciting. :)
13% - Sounds more 'vintage' and cool through the iPhone speaker. Very Star Trek, even with Scottish and Russian crewmen. But what is the fascination with royalty in sff?
18% - Wow there's a lot of characters. Moties kind of sound like Immotiles (Peter Hamilton - Pandora's Star). Hmm.
list of characters
http://www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Niven...
Commander Jock (Sandy) Sinclair - Scottish e...more
3.5 stars
I listened to this book, and although the narrator, L.J. Ganser, barked it out like a sports announcer, it was engaging, suspenseful, and quite funny at times. The narrator was not a distraction once I got used to his style.
The human space explorers seemed incredibly naive and stupid at times in their trust of an alien species, to whom they gave human attributes without questioning their own assumptions. This was a little distracting from the suspense, as I knew something bad was coming...more
I listened to this book, and although the narrator, L.J. Ganser, barked it out like a sports announcer, it was engaging, suspenseful, and quite funny at times. The narrator was not a distraction once I got used to his style.
The human space explorers seemed incredibly naive and stupid at times in their trust of an alien species, to whom they gave human attributes without questioning their own assumptions. This was a little distracting from the suspense, as I knew something bad was coming...more
This book is one that is commonly on, 'Best of SF,' lists. It is there for a reason. It was written in 1973 and it shows in many ways. What also shows is the influence it had on other books in Science Fiction.
This book is about the Moties, the aliens that The Empire of Man has just run into. It is told from the point of view of the representatives of Empire sent to investigate these aliens. This book represents the most complete description of an actually-alien species I've run into in fiction....more
This book is about the Moties, the aliens that The Empire of Man has just run into. It is told from the point of view of the representatives of Empire sent to investigate these aliens. This book represents the most complete description of an actually-alien species I've run into in fiction....more
This is a pretty fascinating story of first contact between an utterly alien civilisation and massive human space empire. This book is often talked up because of its imaginative portrayal of a completely alien civilisation. It deserves the hype for that. The story is interesting and engaging, infrequently falling prey to some clichés but overall an enjoyable read.
I believe this book was originally published in 1975 so some of the technology seems Battlestar Galactica'esque. However the use of s...more
I believe this book was originally published in 1975 so some of the technology seems Battlestar Galactica'esque. However the use of s...more
I'm joining the Beyond Reality group in reading this starting December 1st. I've had a copy on my shelf for maybe a year, having remembered reading maybe the first quarter of it as a freshman in high school, not finishing before I had to return it to the library, and always regretting it!
Getting a head start on this one!
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See the discussion on Beyond Reality. . . .
Getting a head start on this one!
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See the discussion on Beyond Reality. . . .
This is one of my favorite books; I first read it in high school and I've read it several times since. It's a tight story that is set in the far future but really belongs with 18th-century boys-coming-of-age stories, adventure on the high seas. I'd go so far as to say that it's nearly a perfect SF adventure novel.
After a thousand years of spacefaring and two hundred years of interstellar war, the Second Empire of Man is consolidating, hoping to reattain the triumphs and security of the long-ago...more
After a thousand years of spacefaring and two hundred years of interstellar war, the Second Empire of Man is consolidating, hoping to reattain the triumphs and security of the long-ago...more
The Mote in God's Eye hasn't aged well. Compared to the frighteningly unconcious aliens of Peter Watts's Blindsight, the assymetric furbies in Niven and Pournelle's novel seem to be all too human. Even with their genetically stratified society and strange breeding habits, they can't help but to have developed just like humanity, with farms, and cars, and a love of chocolate. It wouldn't be so bad if the aliens were just weird characters, like in Niven's Ringworld, but here, like in Blindsight, t...more
This is the best first contact novel I've read, perhaps it's the best that there is. It's a excellent depiction of a logical future humanity meeting a truly alien alien species. If that's what you are looking for, then you should read this. If you are a fan of old school sf, you should read this. In general, read it.
That said, the book's serious flaw is its poor characterization. All the military characters are super competent, except for the occasional bureaucratic type needed as a plot device....more
That said, the book's serious flaw is its poor characterization. All the military characters are super competent, except for the occasional bureaucratic type needed as a plot device....more
Every now and then I find an older book which slipped past me when it was first issued. Not being a herd animal, I have a tendency to avoid all the “popular stuff”. Which is to bad because sometimes I miss something important.
The Mote In God’s Eye is a fine example of a “first contact” novel. It has everything: human galactic civilization, space battles, heroic spacemen, counter-plots, and very alien aliens. There are plenty of characters and much of the action is told through multiple points of...more
The Mote In God’s Eye is a fine example of a “first contact” novel. It has everything: human galactic civilization, space battles, heroic spacemen, counter-plots, and very alien aliens. There are plenty of characters and much of the action is told through multiple points of...more
THE MOTE IN GOD’S EYE is a science fiction novel written by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. The main premise of the story is the first contact of humans with a nonhuman alien civilization and all the problems, conflicts, and potential benefits that may come with that encounter. This first encounter comes in the future with technology that is far advanced to that which we have today and in a society that is centuries in the future in comparison to ours, where an Imperial Monarchy exists for huma...more
If you're looking for some hard Sci-Fi that still retains the image of British imperialism this is the book for you. The way the authors (Niven and Pournelle) handle the problem of FTL is a hand-wave at best, but it doesn't destroy your suspension of disbelief. Star systems are connected by wormholes, that can only be found at certain points in the system and force the ships to travel at sub-light speeds (complete with all the issues of inertia) when traveling from planet to planet. This mirrors...more
This is my favorite Science Fiction novel. Number One. It starts with a bang. The level of writing is excellent. When I re-read it, I read almost everything. If God's Eye doesn't hook you in the first few pages, you may be unhookable. It has it all. Space battles. A central love story. A surprising depth to the characters. The prose is unusually nuanced for hard Science Fiction, and a joy to read.
Larry and Jerry raised the bar for the "First Contact" SciFi novel, and as far as I can tell, no oth...more
Larry and Jerry raised the bar for the "First Contact" SciFi novel, and as far as I can tell, no oth...more
Jul 13, 2012
Hrumphy
rated it
1 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
People with too much time on their hands
Over-hyped. While I went into the book knowing that it was not fast paced, I was still quite conscious of just how much furnishing was a complete waste. The major areas and parts of the stories are often the more boring parts in the grand scheme of things. (view spoiler)...more
The best by this writing pair.
The Mote ig God's Eye is one of the best collaboration pieces in science fiction history. Using the Codominium world of Jerry Pournell, shaped by the hard science fiction genius of Larry Niven, this book shines the whole way through. And you will want to find the initial battle scene that was cut from the book but is out in some other book by Niven somewhere. Great story, great characters, and some of the best aliens ever invented, this book is a gem for the serious...more
The Mote ig God's Eye is one of the best collaboration pieces in science fiction history. Using the Codominium world of Jerry Pournell, shaped by the hard science fiction genius of Larry Niven, this book shines the whole way through. And you will want to find the initial battle scene that was cut from the book but is out in some other book by Niven somewhere. Great story, great characters, and some of the best aliens ever invented, this book is a gem for the serious...more
The Mote in God’s Eye, set far in the future, tells the tale of humanity’s first contact with an alien species. Despite being first published in 1974, the science holds up fairly well. There are a few funny oddities that show the story’s age, such as the mention of “microwave ovens” and “pocket computers” as if we would be shocked by their ubiquity, but these are rare. However, in this tale, the science isn’t the star of the show. Rather, it’s the nature of humanity and how that nature compares...more
This is a great book if you're into in long time scales, longterm sustainability, the rise and fall of civilizations, evolution, and other extremely big picture stuff. It's also got a little mystery and suspense going, though you can anticipate more or less what's happening fairly early on in the book and the cluelessness of the protagonists gets a little tiresome.
I feel like this book is trying to make some big statements about judgement and morality and "goodness," but for me that aspect fell...more
I feel like this book is trying to make some big statements about judgement and morality and "goodness," but for me that aspect fell...more
I had very high hopes for this novel. It was recently listed in spot #61 on NPR's 2011 reader's poll of the top 100 science fiction and fantasy books. I must say that I was disappointed. It's good but not great, and certainly not one of the best ever sci-fi stories (at least, as far as my interests go). The description of the "Motie" alien biology and social structure is very interesting, and so are the ideas of technologies that allow faster-than-light interstellar travel. However, the human pr...more
Let's get one thing straight right off the bat: this is not a fast-paced, seat-of-your-pants, thrill ride of a science fiction novel. That's not to say that it's boring, but if you're coming into this looking for action and adventure, you'll likely be disappointed, and you are definitely in the wrong frame of mind to appreciate it.
With that said, this is truly an excellent book, intriguing and thought-provoking throughout. It's a bit of a throwback to the days when scifi authors could take a con...more
With that said, this is truly an excellent book, intriguing and thought-provoking throughout. It's a bit of a throwback to the days when scifi authors could take a con...more
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Laurence van Cott Niven's best known work is Ringworld (Ringworld, #1) (1970), which received the Hugo, Locus, Ditmar, and Nebula awards. His work is primarily hard science fiction, using big science concepts and theoretical physics. The creation of thoroughly worked-out alien species, which are very different from humans both physically and mentally, is recognized as one of Niven's main strengths...more
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